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Old 08-15-2009, 03:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

I've been to a decent amount of co-ops since I've had my rec and though I have seen other women here and there...its MOSTLY guys. In one co-op in specific, I was completely ignored and they tried to up the price on me. I feel like, as a woman in the MMJ community, we have to be on the up and ups a little MORE so then men. ANyone else know what I mean or have any similar experiences? Maybe I should be putting this in the bitching thread LOL.
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Old 08-15-2009, 06:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

There is absolute discrimination when it
comes to budtending.

The average age of patients is 47, I would
love to see a woman this age if not older
helping me out.

Here in P.S they make it a practice not to hire
budtenders who are over 22. You also must have
tatoos, massive piercings with a
bored what do you want look on your face.

Sometimes I think the All Boys clubs are afraid to
hire a Super Knowledgeable woman budtender????
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Old 08-15-2009, 06:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

That truly sucks, are you serous? I'm sorry. See that is the kind of info that IS to be brought to peoples attention quickly. I'm a guy, I've never dealt with that, but sexual discrimination is a big no no, little bit different than just a bad bud, especically if others are having similar experinces.

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Old 08-15-2009, 06:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

Just last week I witnessed a club
hire a young boy over a 40 something
wonderful, pretty woman, so knowledgeable
she could write a book on mmj, she grew
in Hawaii for the hiv patients. She has over
26 years of experience with holistic health
practices. She cannot get a budtending job?
hurts-hurts real bad.
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Old 08-15-2009, 07:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

That right there is so ridiculous, that hurts this entire movement. You know how many out of work middle adged mom types are out there with a shit ton of knoledge on cannabis ohhh yeah thats stupid totally agreed, I'm in the age group that they like to hire for these co-ops, late 20s, but you know what I dont have the expeirince of a lifetime behind my words to back up what I'm saying, but when someone whos been there and done that more that me, well I for one show some respect and listen, maybe more co-ops should be ran by people who you saw 420Bunny, like that women who could have schooled that kid. Because if a knolegable and caring person ran these places and passed on their moral expectaions to their emplyees maybe this movement could move quicker, people could learn more from eachother, and everyone could maybe be a little happier day to day. Just a thought.

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Old 08-15-2009, 07:17 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

I saw that happen to a woman down at BCC in San Diego. The Collective had advertrised a special on Maui Wowie so this 50-something woman goes in to get an 8th. The 20's something "homeboy" tells her they are "all out of it" but if she will buy TWO 8's of Mauie Wowie he'll try to find her some. So anyway she ended up having to spend twice what she planned... These little jerks are un-real and BCC is supposed to be one of the high-end San Diego places !
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Old 08-15-2009, 07:59 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

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There is absolute discrimination when it
comes to budtending.

The average age of patients is 47, I would
love to see a woman this age if not older
helping me out.



Sometimes I think the All Boys clubs are afraid to
hire a Super Knowledgeable woman budtender????
Especially the pre-ico coops this is rampant. A broMANce crew that has no cannabis as a medicine knowledge and does a good Job of stroking the owners or managers limp egos. The Ken and Barbie bonehead tenders. Saw an ad in CL from a rainy westside coop that asked for a modelling picture and if they didnt have a rec they would get them one. Awesome. but tells you how much that coop cares fro your health and wellbeing. Just turn around walk away. no pity gram even

You need a license to fish but anyone can tend
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Old 08-15-2009, 09:10 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

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Saw an ad in CL from a rainy westside coop that asked for a modelling picture and if they didnt have a rec they would get them one.
i've seen ads like that too; shameful!
these co-ops need eye candy to attract more patients, which tells a lot about the quality of their meds and their compassion, and their knowledge.
definitely best to stay away from these clubs...
and pretty people , they're out to get you!
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Old 08-15-2009, 09:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

Now that you mention it, I've only seen a woman over say 25 working at one place. Won't name drop but it's on Commerce in Tujunga. Every time I've been there the same youngish (25-27 ?, but very knowledgable) guy and one of three different women, who are at least 35, but I intend to go back and don't want to guess their ages here. Never thought much about it until now but that's the only place out of maybe 25 I've been to between the SFV and SGV. And here I didn't think this particular shop could impress me even more. Discrimination of any kind, should be challenged at every opportunity.
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Old 08-15-2009, 10:29 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 420bunny View Post
There is absolute discrimination when it
comes to budtending.

The average age of patients is 47, I would
love to see a woman this age if not older
helping me out.

Here in P.S they make it a practice not to hire
budtenders who are over 22. You also must have
tatoos, massive piercings with a
bored what do you want look on your face.

Sometimes I think the All Boys clubs are afraid to
hire a Super Knowledgeable woman budtender????
Here it comes...

Oooh I definitely know what you mean. It seems like whenever people are presented with a male and female relationship there always has to be some sort of sexual tension between the two. Quite honestly there isn't any and there doesn't have to be any. I've definitely felt the "Theres a young chick in here" or the "oh man a chick just walked in there". Just a couple days ago I had the unfortunate incident of leaving a co-op and a truck full of guys on bromance high (obviously waiting for their friend to pick up...which pisses me off ) look out the window and say "OH MAN A CHICK! RIGHT ON!!". No. NOOOO. Not right on. Beyond that there is a definite discrimination of women budtenders to men budtenders. It seems if you are a woman you have to be a certain look or a certain age to land the job and just like any other job it shouldn't be based on looks [lol, it kinda it is everywhere though], it should be based on your experience and knowledge.

Sometimes I just feel like pimp slapping a couple of guys and gals who think it's there job to keep traditional gender roles alive. "Oh look at me, I'm a prissy tiny girl who likes to smoke pot and you're totally that macho bro dude whose going to sell me the pot omgzlolz". It makes me a little more than frustrated...

It's like No Doubt used to sing I'm a just a girl in the world, that's all that you'll let me be!! But ladies stand up for yourself! Demand respect!
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Old 08-15-2009, 10:36 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

who cares if its a guy or girl.... I don't, as long as I could smoke some good herb im happy
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Old 08-15-2009, 10:43 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

What i have also noticed as a patient if i get in all glammed up i get excellent service ,doors held for me,etc..Days i go in a t shirt ,ballcap ,and cane lol,not so much of the kindness.I'm just think in mens most deepest thoughts sometimes asthetics just goes farther.I'm lucky enough to look a lot younger than my years,but i still get those different reactions.
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Old 08-15-2009, 10:51 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

Honestly I am appauled that anybody would treat anyone in ANY business as such. Ive heard horrible stories of bud tenders either not knowing their MJ or discrimination such as this, based on gender, age and even sexual orientation. It saddens me that these people work in whats supposed to be a supportive and wholesome movement for medical patients. These people are in need of medicine, and the last thing they need is to be given the run around simply because of their chromosomes. It also even angers me, that while these types of budtenders have a job in a place where they could truly make a difference for a person, many of us (including myself) who would truly love to be of help are left with jobs that dont fullfill us as wed like.
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:54 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

There are a couple spots that I visit from time to time that have what I'll call old timers, 65+ years of age working the meds and you know what? they were right on with the effects and what ailment it would treat, sorry, I'm a little off subject, but this also seems like an age issue,I will gladly take the advice of those older butenders over a 22 year old who tells me this bud is " super dank" or " will knock yer shit in the dirt". You know in a time where so many baby boomers cant find jobs and are so close to retirement age but still need money, why arent they working these shops and sharing their knowlege? Have we (the young crowd) forgotten that the baby boomers are the ones who saw the weed go from needing to smoke a quarter for a buzz to a hit for a buzz nowadays? Maybe they know some things that we dont, maybe we, the younger folk need to sit back and remember what we were told when we were growing up damnit, respect your elders. Their lifetime of expierince outweighs what you read in Hightimes when you were 15, trust me. Yeah I know I rambled a bit, but you know what, things need to change and they need to change now. And change starts with the people who buy the products, us.

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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

One of the nice things about having 500+ clubs in Los Angeles is the assortment. We are able to weed through the good and the bad. Unfortunately in any industry as big as MMJ we are going to see model co ops that we are proud to visit and be a part of and then yes we are also going to see are share of poor ran co ops that have practices and many of us are not found of.
So in order for us to save our time and headache its our own responsibility to do some homework on a co op that we are thinking about visiting, read some reviews, talk with some other members of weedtracker who have visited a club you are thinking about going to. This is what weedtracker is here for, its a social network site here for us to congregate, share and gain knowledge. This I highly suggest especially for our friends who are making those long trips that may lead to disappointment and if you do get mistreated or simply don't like the place I have a easy solution for you, just don't go back! I'm sure your not the only one with those feelings.

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Just last week I witnessed a club
hire a young boy over a 40 something
wonderful, pretty woman, so knowledgeable
she could write a book on mmj, she grew
in Hawaii for the hiv patients. She has over
26 years of experience with holistic health
practices. She cannot get a budtending job?
hurts-hurts real bad.
Thats ridiculous! That's what im talking about..it makes me sad to think that in this day and age there is still bullshit like that goin on.
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Old 08-16-2009, 01:33 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

Name just one co-op that has a
woman budtender over 40, just one.
I thought so. This must change!

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Old 08-16-2009, 01:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

I agree with you 420 Bunny, There's a place in LB that has 2 I believe at least they did.

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Old 08-16-2009, 02:16 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

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Name just one co-op that has a
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I thought so. This must change!

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Old 08-16-2009, 02:28 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Old 08-16-2009, 02:38 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

I honestly don't think this is as big of a problem as you're making it out to be. Yes, I get hit on sometimes in co-ops. But if anything, as a patient, I see guys getting treated differently than me, in a negative way.

Example- I went into a co-op yesterday and got treated like an absolute princess. All I had to do was exist. And no, I wasn't dressed nicely- t-shirt, shorties, and flip-flops. I'm not complaining about this. I'm just saying that no guy could've walked in and left with the incredible deal I got.

Now employment is another story. But as far as being a patient goes, I'd say guys are at a disadvantage. My 2 cents.

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Re: Mistreated by co-ops or budtenders?

So here we go again.
It's between hiring a 19yr old
young girl who just got braces
on her teeth last month, or, a
40ish wonderful woman with 26yrs
of experience......guess who they hired?

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Old 08-18-2009, 02:22 PM   #23 (permalink)
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This thread is kinda... funny. The complaint always used to be that there are too many girls working at clubs, and now people are saying there's too many guys and it's a "bromance crew". I don't get it. I honestly think you guys are hung up on this, too much for your own good. Who cares who works there as long as they can help, and you get good service.

I think a lot of these places are owned by younger people and that's why they hire their fellow younger people. They probably feel intimidated by someone who's 40... just guessing.

The clubs owned by older folks have older employees... hmm... I notice a pattern.
 
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This thread is kinda... funny. The complaint always used to be that there are too many girls working at clubs, and now people are saying there's too many guys and it's a "bromance crew". I don't get it. I honestly think you guys are hung up on this, too much for your own good. Who cares who works there as long as they can help, and you get good service.

I think a lot of these places are owned by younger people and that's why they hire their fellow younger people. They probably feel intimidated by someone who's 40... just guessing.

The clubs owned by older folks have older employees... hmm... I notice a pattern.
Yeah, I think you're totally on to something. I think I've seen one 40+ year old budtender period. Perhaps this is really an issue of age discrimination, or maybe it's not an issue at all?

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Its both but I'm not suprised people dont get it. Its the world and website we are in.
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