[Lucas Jackson]

When are we going to begin to change the names on these strains to reflect the medical aspects of the plant, and not the humor of the breeder/grower. It saddens me that there are not many dispensaries making the effort to tone down the recreational aspects of the products on their boards. There is no reason that we need to have strains reflect "stoner humor" when they are being classified as medicine. We need to develop more technical terms of reference for these products, as everytime I hear a journalist refer to "Pussy Kush" or "Green Crack" I cringe. What is wrong with Purple Indica #7 or something? It would be more informative and less of an embarassment. Just an idea.

[Hymie]

It is a tuff call to make. Cannabis has a history outside of its medical use. Do we just erase that history? It seems like the very human aspect of creative strain names adds something to medical marijuana. I personally like that marijuana as medicine isn't packaged and labeled like big-pharma drugs: prozac, benzemyiacine, etc. I don't see any reason why medicine has to buy into the whole "Science is King" BS.

But on the other hand, I really agree with you. Names like Green Crack and Pussy Kush fit in with the stereotypes of the MMJ community and can easily be used against us. In a sense, we are helping the anti-MMJ community discredit us as a bunch of party animals.

this is such a hard call...ya know.........and you bring up such a good point Hymie.....MJ has it's own history outside of the MMJ community

Lucas....i agree that some of the strain names are over the top and tend to make others who are not sensitive to our movement cringe...

maybe we need a poll on this one.....

[infamous]

yea i made a thread about this months ago.

the strain names are ridiculous...

[infamous]

correction, A month ago

The strains are named by the breeders, and they're gonna name them whatever they want. What can you do? The clubs have to sell them using the names they were given, otherwise you won't know what strain is what. The clubs can't just rename strains that already have names, causing even more confusion. Don't we have enough confusion already?

Just something that goes with the territory...gotta accept it. Or maybe growers can start breeding new strains specifically for the medical community, with more "serious" names...hee hee.

[Lucas Jackson]

Actually, something like indica/sativa hybrid purple #7 would be more explanitory and eventually people would become familiar with that strain name and bgin to recognize it.

[THC VAN NUYS]

this is an interesting topic. It is very easy to tell when a coop has gone a lil over the top with the imagination, and no... owners love to play with the names of ALL of these strains, and market them as they see appropriate, but in the end, these names for the most part, as long as they tell the patient what they ACTUALLY are, they are serving their purpose. OK whats the difference betw. cinnamin kush and kotton Candy kush? or I have seeen jupiter, mars, venus, pluto, saturn, uranus (thank you earth collective for putting all the names of the planets in fron of og and bubba kush) pussy, diamond, platinum, lemon, king, royal, purple, red, blue, green, greenhouse, who knows maybe next week someone will coin fart kush, catshit to go with catpiss, sour, apple, gold, silver, the list goes on and on and on! My point is.. As long as coops are patient and allow time for patients to find whats right for them, I believe all this name misuse is perhaps not terrible unless goes too far, and for those coops you know who you are, stop confusing people. that is my two cents, keep it real.


THC VAN NUYS:slaugh:

[chronicallyinsane]

I like give respect to all of you.. Many excellent valid points made:


Cannabliss: Great points. No need for more confusion.

Lucas: I understand where you are coming from, but if we started naming everything hybrid # 5 or purple indica #49, then we wouldnt even know what we are purchasing.. I personally enjoy all the names, not to mention that if you find a strain that works well you have a name for it, not some number. and if you think further into it, we have soo many genetical crosses, with more strains being created every day, if we were to keep changing them to numbers instead of coming up with creative name, than we are going to have so many strains it will be "yes, i am looking for hybrid # 40387" ... "sorry we only have hybrids # 40386 and 403888". I dont want to put an order in for medicine that sounds like im purchasing merchandise out of a magazine through a robot computer answering service.. but i understand.. i no like the name pussy kush, cat shit, or green crack any more than the next patient.. it is joke, and more than likely created by person who has no involvement with MMJ.

Hymie: I really enjoyed your points as well. This plant should be celebrated and studied, as it has been used NUMEROUS times thoughout history by many key leaders from ancient aztec to present day.. It has been used for curing and holoustic practices.. It is time we end the discrimination. This plant should be celebrated for all the excellent products it can make and all the jobs it would produce, if legalized. It will not be much longer, I know many of us having been saying this for decades, but they are smart. They will soon realize this "war" on drugs is a huuuge money pit, that they will never be able to escape from.. They will soon end the program or move focus. Once they realize the huge market that cannabis abides too, they will try and take over, regulate, and tax and tax and tax... this country is all about money, and soon they will elbow their way into the circle..

THC: I agree. Names mean very little to a patient that knows what he/she is looking for.. I have seen many of my favorite strains (sweet tooth, lavendar, grapefruit) on the board at a dispensary, yet when I inspect the meds, it is something quite different. Now just because it carries the name of a strain i enjoy, obviously does not mean it is the same herb.

[THC VAN NUYS]

you hit the nail on the head, inspection sometimesisnt enough, you gotta really know what you want. Only when we for instance get something very rare and special will we play with variations of what the strain is, but otherwise sticking to your guns is a very decent rule of thumb. Direct and to the point, no bullshit, thats what I really think it is all about. On the same token though, a little frivolity and playfullness never hurt anyone, green crack, is strain that must go and there are others. i believe green crack is actually power plant.

THC VAN NUYS

[Lucas Jackson]

I say that right now you do not know what you are REALLY getting. Just a theory, but in time I believe that people would get to know strains by more scientific names if that is the direction it went, but if you like dingle-ball kush or whatever the next stupid name to hit the market is then so be it.

[buckeyluck]

I am totally new to using MMJ. I have been using for about two months to stop or alleviate my severe migranes. I find the names humorous but they don't tell me anything about it. I wish there were descriptions of which medication is good for which condition. While my co-op is really good at that, I like to check it out on my own.

I also agree that some of the names just don't reflect their medical purpose. If we want MMJ to begin to be respected for what it can do, we must consider changing that. I realize that there is history (most of I don't know becauase I never used it recreationally) but don't we want to continue to move it from the back alley's?

Just my thoughts from a newbie to this!

[ssh]

Co-ops/growers take advantage of the fact that a certain strain can look and smell different depending on how it was grown (organic vs hydro, indo vs outdo, etc) and then there is the whole "certain pheno" phenomenom.
Too much information about a strain can NEVER be a bad thing.
Certain names like NL5 X haze are very descriptive but again, I agree it's the co-ops/growers trying to make the weed more enticing. it's obvoius they are catering to the recreational crowd.
If they would act more like it's medicine then for recreational obviously we wouldn't have this problem but they just refuse to police themselves.

[Parrothead92563]

I like the different names...it's kinda fun , I think............!!!



I hope for whirled peas............:slaugh:

I'm imagine Green Crack got it's name because when it was tested by the breeders it must have been super super potent, blown them away, type shit. "So potent it's like crack! But it's greenery! Green Crack! Yeah that's it!" Plus it sounds funny. Not really a big deal.

Plus, we can't just change history. For the people who are new to medical cannabis and have never used recreationally, you've gotta understand that there is a much bigger community out there, sometimes referred to as the "counter-culture". Most breeders have their morals and lifestyle closely tied in with that of the counter-culture, and their strain developing concoctions wil reflect that. It can then come into the medical market from there, but it's already known by it's first name. Changing it just to sound "legitimate" (whatever ) is just going to cause confusion, as well as make us look selfish to the breeders and growers whose hard work was responsible for that strain anyway. I know for sure they will start to look at medical users as nothing but a bunch of whiny little babies who want it their way just cause they're sick. (I used to know a grower back in the day, he has since disappeared, but I know how they feel about that kind of stuff.)

And to elaborate on that point of legitimacy...why would you be so concerned with legitimacy? Really think about it. The people who you are trying to convince that we are legitimate users, are people who never will see it that way. No matter how legitimate we try to make ourselves, the DEA, government, and other assorted pricks will never see it that way. It's always going to be a demon that needs to be destroyed in their eyes. Trying to look legitimate is a waste of time. We have much bigger concerns to worry about, if you want to be a worrier at all, that is...

If you're a patient who is legally covered by Prop. 215 to possess and consume cannabis for your medical reasons, then you're as legitimate as you need to be. Don't worry; if dispensaries go the way of BetaMax, Prop. 215 should still stand, and private co-ops will always be around. Your access to medicine will be there, you might just have to dig a little deeper than just going to the corner store. But isn't a medicinal herb of this quality worth that extra work? I think so.

Again, I think this is just another example of medical users trying way to hard to gain the acceptance of the so-called powers that be. Well, you just have to face the hard facts. It will never happen. At least not the way we want it to happen. If it's ever legalized, it will be on their terms, and when they see fit. That's why I try to stay away from the system as much as possible anyway. Because they don't know what's best for me, yet I realized that they will think that they do until the day they die, so therefore, I have just taken back control of my life back into my own hands. I don't even need their acceptance. Nor do I want it. I wonder why anyone else would.

Who cares if they accept what you want. Why care if they accept what you know to be right. You can't have everyone on your side, so just do what you know is right in your heart, and ignore the haters as much as possible. It's your life, not theirs.

Only when they forcefully invade our privacy and put guns to our heads, do we need to even stand up to them, or even acknowledge their presence. They are not even worth the time, or your energy. The DEA doesn't even deserve our attention. I think they get off on all of us talking about them so much. They probably feel so popular.

We should treat them the way we treat any other bully....you don't think about him all day long and let his presence eat away at you, only when he comes around do you deal with it. As soon as he is gone, so is the stress that came with him. The DEA should be viewed the same way. I think.

And to anyone who says ignoring the DEA would be a bad idea, because then they will just go around wildly doing whatever they want, unchecked....isn't that what they're doing already? And do you honestly believe all of our protests and ranting and raving is going to change any of that? Of course not. Just ignore them....deal with it if it comes arond, but other than that just live your life as happily as you can, as if they don't even exist. It's not worth your precious time on this earth to be stressing out over some cold, heartless bastards like the DEA.

Besides, if you waste all your energy stressing out about what they MIGHT do, then you'll have no energy left when they do come around. Preserve that energy for when you need it. Don't worry. You're already prepared. You know right from wrong deep in your heart, and if the time ever comes that you need to stand up against an oppressor of any type, your instinctual wisdom will take over and guide you through the adversity. People, you gotta believe in yourselves more than you do. We are not weak. No one is. That's just an illusion they want you to believe. They want you think they are some big scary monster that we are powerless against. We can beat them, it's just not going to happen by gathering in the street with signs and chanting slogans. They laugh at that, and it's not a threat to them because it doesn't hit them where it hurts. Just put that energy on reserve and use it when it really needs to be used.

They thrive on the fear they can generate, and the result of seeing us run around crying and not knowing what to do. If you can stop believing in the illusion that they have power over us, your fear will dissipate, and they WILL definately take notice of that. That's how to hit them where it hurts. Since THEY thrive on fear, it will reverse and put fear into them, and cause them to panic - when they see that we are no longer scared of them. They'll be like, "uh-oh, now what do we do?"

When they see that we are no longer scared of them, that is when their illusion will fade away, and their empire will begin to slowly crumble. The balance of power will then start to shift back over to our side, and naturally, there will be nothing THEY can do about it.

^^^Why I just posted all of that I don't know, it's early in the morning, I haven't slept, and my mind is just running and running and running...

No one cares anyway.

Sorry weedtracker, didn't mean to eat up all of your memory.

[Lucas Jackson]

I wouldn't say never. I believe there are still alot of people on the fence about MMJ and it would be easier to bring them over to our side without all of the crazy names. Sure, some strains are legit from breeders, but others are just made up by staff members to make it look like they have 90 different strains on the board, when really there are not. I agree with some of your points, but also see a need to find more truly descriptive and less "funny" names for our medicine. there are some people you just can't reach, but then there are some that will be reached by one argument or another. It is important to begin to legitimize the effort more, or fuck it why not just have topless dispensaries if we do not care what anyone thinks?

[THC VAN NUYS]

just for the record
the 100$ og kush was originally intended to show that you could get the same real deal OG from us in Van Nuys for much less than its counterpart from fairfax or the farmacy in WeeHo, which actually at the time was going for about 90 to 100 $. Sometimes to play around with the name is ok, sometimes not, in this case with the 100$ wow just a slap in the face to those coops that were just rapping their supposed patients! Anway, our point was established then just as it is now. As for dis debate, in the end it is completely up to the coop owner, and his feel for what his/her patients have given as far as feedback, and what they prefer.

[Lucas Jackson]

Seems like a petty argument, really. Funny how everyone has "100 dollar kush" now. This example is exactly what I am talking about. No breeder made this strain. You guys just renamed a strain to spite your competition and now many patients believe that this is a whole different strain now. it is noble to charge less for the same product but why the need to demean the competition? No matter what the justification it is misleading, and just like the Earth Collective renaming every kush for a planet that you complained about, this is no different. it is just getting out of control and makes us look like we have no standards and will do anything to attract customers, not patients. Patients want to know what the real strain is and not the strain that you made up to prove that you were more "compassionate" than the next guy.

Originally Posted by buckeyluck

I am totally new to using MMJ. I have been using for about two months to stop or alleviate my severe migranes. I find the names humorous but they don't tell me anything about it. I wish there were descriptions of which medication is good for which condition. While my co-op is really good at that, I like to check it out on my own.

Just my thoughts from a newbie to this!

I personally favor using the Genetic names (eg. NL#5 x Skunk #1 instead of Green Crack) to id the plants and flowers. Some of the names are very humorous, but they tell me nothing about the genetics or the efficacy of the Medicine.

Buck, I suffer from Chronic Migraines also. I have found anything with Chem Dog or Diesel in it's genetic makeup helps me the most.

[THC VAN NUYS]

ok mr Lucas Jackson, now youve strayed a little from the debate.
in my view 100 dollar Og kush means just that, really good true OG kush, just in a way that proved you could get it for less while calling it what it is. Is there a problem with that? There is a difference between the name 100 dollar OG kush and lets say mars kush or candy kush. I think youre venting frustration on someone that is in agreement with you, and thats just silly.
there is a huge difference between precding the name sour diesel with "super" or "platinum", than calling it "sweet and sour apple" or "candy apple delight" , I as a coop owner try not to let the imagination go too far, whereas other coops all over the state, mostly in the south though, are calling strains names ive never heard of, and may be making it confusing for a lot of patients that dont know the difference! Lets not argue though, its completely up to the person in charge.

peace out

THC:slaugh:

[BlackDrop50]

A friend told me at the CCAC in Hayward they had 2 buds for the same price.

Bears and Colts.

He said the colts looked better.


How dumb is that?

The people at this club make up stupid names. Last time I got some "push" from there. Tastes like purple cream kush but you know what I'm talking about.

[Lucas Jackson]

Originally Posted by THC VAN NUYS

ok mr Lucas Jackson, now youve strayed a little from the debate.
in my view 100 dollar Og kush means just that, really good true OG kush, just in a way that proved you could get it for less while calling it what it is. Is there a problem with that? There is a difference between the name 100 dollar OG kush and lets say mars kush or candy kush. I think youre venting frustration on someone that is in agreement with you, and thats just silly.
there is a huge difference between precding the name sour diesel with "super" or "platinum", than calling it "sweet and sour apple" or "candy apple delight" , I as a coop owner try not to let the imagination go too far, whereas other coops all over the state, mostly in the south though, are calling strains names ive never heard of, and may be making it confusing for a lot of patients that dont know the difference! Lets not argue though, its completely up to the person in charge.

peace out

THC:slaugh:

I hear your argument and was just pointing out that it is a slippery slope. Now everyone has a 100 dollar strain and some patients believe it is a different strain. I get why you did it and I appreciate the humor in it all, as I agree that the prices were out of hand, but it just gets to be too much. It has just turned into a game of nonsense.

[BabyBoomer]

Originally Posted by Cannabliss

I'm imagine Green Crack got it's name because when it was tested by the breeders it must have been super super potent, blown them away, type shit. "So potent it's like crack! But it's greenery! Green Crack! Yeah that's it!" Plus it sounds funny. Not really a big deal. . . . . . . . .

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OK, then what were the breeders thinking of when they came up with Cat Piss?

hahahahahaha

Hugz (Thanks KC2)

BabyBoomer



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[Lucas Jackson]

Catpiss is suposedley a "Hell's Angels" strain. Just who you want naming your medicine, eh?