[lets burn]

Im new to the medical community and was wondering a few things , what strain is the most potent one that i should be looking for,and 2 i bought a cheap vape and was not satisfied the one with the glass bubble, is a good vape worth the money?, and three im not use to concentrates. Are they a waste of money some of them are 80 a gram , oh, if its not then what concentrates should i look for. thanks for the help and theres places in la that are 45 1/8 for the best strain there wheres the location

[SD Kush]

Originally Posted by lets burn

Im new to the medical community and was wondering a few things , what strain is the most potent one that i should be looking for,and 2 i bought a cheap vape and was not satisfied the one with the glass bubble, is a good vape worth the money?, and three im not use to concentrates. Are they a waste of money some of them are 80 a gram , oh, if its not then what concentrates should i look for. thanks for the help and theres places in la that are 45 1/8 for the best strain there wheres the location

Well, the strain you are looking for would all depend on the symptoms of your illness. Are you looking for physical pain relief? Or maybe something that would help anxiety? Also, when you visit a co-op don't be afraid to tell the person helping you your symptoms and ask which strain would best suit your needs. Most people would be happy to help you. Next, you ask if a good vape is worth the money. I'd say...hell yes. I owned a vapor bro's box for a couple of years and later upgraded to the volcano and personally I love vaporizing. Again, something like this would depend on your preference between smoking and vaporizing. As far as the concentrates, a good concentrate can be extremely well worth the money. If you have a high tolerance it would be worth looking in to. Once, I bought a gram of Bubba Goo for $80 and it lasted me about 6 weeks of occaisional use. Anyways, hope that helped you a bit...

[lets burn]

yea coo well i need a indica but a sativa seems better for the day. but thanks alot i need to go to a vapor lounge and try a vlocano cuz this bubble one i got sucks thanks alot

[SD Kush]

Originally Posted by lets burn

yea coo well i need a indica but a sativa seems better for the day. but thanks alot i need to go to a vapor lounge and try a vlocano cuz this bubble one i got sucks thanks alot

Im like you, need a good indica to help w/ pain management. I use a good hybrid for daytime smoke, and rarely will I get a pure sativa. Well, i'd say look for some Grandaddy Purple or maybe some Romulan for indicas. Kush's are also really good. Anyways, definitely try out a vapor lounge around town and hit that volcano. The price for them is dropping as you can find em for 400 even around LA, I know it is steep, but if you really like vapo then i'd say its the way to go. Peace.

[SoulRebel]

I recommend the vriptech vripmaster attachments @ http://vriptech.com ... some people like the volcano. It's all up to you my friend. If you buy a chep vape, you get a cheap vape...


... S R...:slaugh:

[Johnny Chimpo]

It always depends on quality of growning, but here are a few of my favorites, and why I smoke them. Most of these are hybrids, but I will list their dominant traits.

Romulan[Indica]: Excellent pain and anxiety med. I swear there is something unique and proprietary about the cannabinoids in Romulan, one day scientists will discover a powerful anti-depression biochemical!

Chem Dog, OG Kush, Sour Diesel, Headband[Indica, hybrid, hybrid, hybrid]: I list all of these together because they are related. The important shared charactoristic to me is that each one of these is 50 percent Chem Dog, save the Chem Dog which is 100 percent itself. Chem Dog is one hell of a Kush. ELIMINATES my stomach pain, upper back pain, and a few others things that are painful. Chem Dog itself is so strong that it makes me lazy if I smoke it for too many days in a row, I prefer any of the hybrids here as they also have Sativas in them which make it not SO sleepy. This stuff is great for when I put my back out and I am in pain AND restless so I dont want to lie in bed and let my back heal itself, when you smoke this you tend to stay put.

TrainWreck(Sativa): Sativas usually do not help me sleep as much as an Indica, but this one is the exception. I wake up each day at 5-7:30am with stomach pain. I want to go back to sleep because it wakes me up in the middle of my sleep, but who can sleep with insane stabbing pain in their stomach. I take a hit or two of this and I am brought down a notch, much more relaxed. It is a bit intense at first, but this pot really lasts a long time, hours. So I get back to sleep, and when I wake up I can tell it is still working, though my head feels clearer. I like this because it lasts a long time it makes it easier for me to leave my house for an extended period of time.

Maui Wowi and Kali Mist(Sativas): To me these are not powerful, but they are useful. I use these for daytime smoking where I dont want to be out of it. Kali Mist is a bit stronger than Maui Wowie, I have never caught anything more than a buzz on the Maui, but to me that is vital at times. Both taste great, easy to consume.


Other strains that work similar for me like what I list above:

Indica Dominants:

PK Ultra
HIP Pure Kush
Bubba Kush
Peak 19
Crystal Queen
Alaskan Thunderfuck
Northern Lights #5
White Widow

Sativa Dominants:

AK-47 (there is a small amount of indica in this that really stands out, but I think it is a 75%/25% sativa dominant)
Super Silver Haze (so much like Trainwreck)
TrainWreck Haze (also like pure trainwreck)
Hawaiian Snow
Cat Piss




I'm sure I don't have 100% of my genetics info correct[maybe, who can be sure], aside from what I know works for me, and what I am drawn to.

I like vaping, I have tried it a few times. Some vaporizers SUCK though, so watch out. I have head good things about the Volcano, I'd recomend trying a few out before buying one, thats what I am trying to do.

[denooch]

is there any illness you didnt leave out?

like foot pain from high heeled shoes or falling off a skate board!
(not that i wear high heeled shoes)

[StupidUgly]

Originally Posted by Capt. Zigzag

The following is just a mish mash which I haven't had the time to properly compile yet. But maybe it will be helpfull until I get the time.

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Insomnia, Social Awareness, Emotional Stability: Black Domina, Butterscotch Hawiian, Trainwreck, Afgani, William's Wonder, Blueberry.

MS Neuropathic Pain / Urinary Incontinence: Trainwreck, Super Silver Haze), NYCD and Sour Diesel. For severe pain, concentrates may be required.

Digestive Disorders: Blueberry, Blackberry, Black Domina.

Nausea and Diarrhea and Cramping (including Menstrual Cramps): Blueberry.

Social Anxiety: Romulan, NL#5, Hindu Kush, OG Kush, Bubba Kush.

Stress: Heavenly Man.

Sleep and General Relaxation:Sonoma Coma, Lifesaver, Real Matanuska Thunder Fu*K, XXX, Legends Ultimate Indica, Sensi Star.

Alert, Cerebral: AK-47, Dankouver, Cambodian X Orange Peako.

Anti Depress & Anxiety, Sleep: Blue Moonshine, Jack Herrer, M-39, Herijuana.

Chronic Pain: Romulan, Shiskeberry.

Appetite Stimulant/Spasms: TY's Northernberry x Reefermans herijuana.

Joint and Muscle Pain: Legends Ultimate Indica, UBC Chemo x Grapefruit.

Thanks to TY members for their help in compiling this list.

Oh, please feel free to add to this list.
or the record:
Billiejack and what i have been calling willy jack from woodie are the same thing.

Chronic pain: Blueberry, reeferman's hashplant

appetite stimulant: Catalyst

Joint and muscle pain: Blueberry
White Russian-ak-47 x white widow-excellent for chronic pain and insomnia-M39 for chronic pain-Peace BigD
I use Original Blueberry for M.S. Chronic pain, muscle spasms and muscle cramping. I also use California Orange, believe it or not, for spinal pain relief. Does anyone know if the blueberry/Lowryder is as good, or close to Original Blueberry. I would like to grow some if it is.
i have tried blueberry of a couple sorts including what i do believe was actually dj short bb and it was a 9 or higher outa 10 for pain relief.
Catalyst: is good for Anxiety and Depression. I don’t really get the munchies from her though.
Purple Kush: helps my stomach and bleeds off my stress/anxiety

Slow train: ruins me for a good long while and my back pain just melts away
Romulan-munchies, sleep inducer
AK-47-pain relief, day dreaming, anti stress

Romulan: Pleasant slight mental high. *Great painkiller*/minor muscle relaxant. Aided sleep. My heart doesn't race at all on this stuff! Apparently, it has a lower THC content than many, and this may account for it's mellowness. Yeah! It also doesnt make me feel 'stoned' or stupid.

Blueberry Kush: Medium pain control. Medium body high, STRONG sleep inducer. Knocked me out....twice.

Peak 19- Too strong! 1/4 of a puff made my heart race for about a half hour, and made me feel like I was going to be ill. I hate this crap!!

Mango+Durban cross: Decent painkiller, euphoric feeling, 'couch-lock'. Slightly 'stupid' high, and munchie inducer. Makes my fingers feel numb occasionally.

Trainwreck: Anti-anxiety. Muddled my thoughts a bit but not too much to be disturbing. Good painkiller. Slight heartrate elevation. Extreme munchee inducer.
We used Northern Lights about 10 years ago to help my ex-fiancee's mother- who'd been through every medication around *and* an experimental brain surgery. =) I personally think Romulan works WONDERS for pain of all kinds.....although perhaps with a migraine you might try something really strong- like Snow White or White Widow......apparently, many people say you should go for Sativas for migraines (online source)....hmmm...in that case, I suppose you might wish to try White Widow first and then certain strains of Northern Lights.....I KNOW that one worked.
Please- write back and let us know how it goes- I'm going to mix some AK-47 and Romulan and enjoy and night bowl!
The Skunk#1 that was grown on the PainPal system is VERY relaxing for me, it numbs my chronic back pain and is a real easy on the throat smoke. Two reasonable sized bowls and I'm off to "la la land"
Nevles Haze is really good for psychiactric conditions, mood, and anxiety. I love Sensi-Star for it's ability to control muscle pain and nausea. It also has a wonderful aroma and taste to boot.
GDP = Purple Erkle x Big Bud

AKA "Grand Daddy Purple" AKA "RIP Grandaddy Purple" AKA "Ken's Grandaddy Purple".
RLS = SSH 1-2 hours before sleep in an edible has been effective for many folks.
I have said it before, the Amsterdam Bubble Funk has a way of getting rid of my HEADACHES when the pinched nerve in my neck acts up with those top of the cranium gems of PAIN. Without a doubt, better than any asprin ever taken, and with immediate relief. As a general pain reliever, this strain does little for my FIBROMYALGIA. For that pain, i rely on Bubble Gum, or Blueberry to get me the relief i need, for the most part.
COmidnightrider46...just wondering what kind of fibro pain are you talking about
this is msa,

Symptoms vary and depend on the particular form of MSA. Striatonigral degeneration is practically indistinguishable from Parkinson's disease; OPCA is characterized by progressive ataxia (an inability to coordinate voluntary muscular movements) of the gait and arms and dysarthria (difficulty articulating words); and Shy-Drager syndrome is characterized by Parkinsonism and a much more pronounced failure of the autonomic nervous system.

Striatonigral degeneration
Striatonigral degeneration is similar to Parkinson's disease, except tremor is much less common, and cerebellar ataxia (failure of muscle coordination) often develops over time. Pathologically, striatonigral degeneration is defined by abnormalities in the putamen and substantia nigra that are more extensive and localized than what is typical of Parkinson's disease. Other portions of the basal ganglia (the part of the brain that is responsible for organization of motor movement) are also involved. Striatonigral degeneration is often indistinguishable from Parkinson's, except that it does not respond to medications used to treat Parkinson's. MRI brain images may reveal severe degeneration of the affected structures and may provide additional diagnostic information.

Olivopontocerebellar atrophy (OPCA)
OPCAs are a group of disorders characterized by cerebellar dysfunction manifested by ataxia (imbalance and incoordination) and kinetic tremor. Kinetic tremor is rhythmic, involuntary muscular contraction that occurs during purposeful movement, such as touching your finger to your nose. Some researchers suspect that OPCA may have a genetic basis, but the clinical symptoms can vary considerably even among relatives.

The term "olivopontocerebellar" implies involvement and degeneration of the olives (structures in the medulla, part of the brainstem), the pons (part of the brainstem), and the cerebellum (area of the brain that controls coordination and balance). Symptoms may include the following:
Ataxia
Chorea (irregular, spasmodic, involuntary movement of the limbs or facial muscles)
Degeneration of the retina
Dysarthria (difficulty articulating words)
Dystonia (abnormal muscle tension)
Kintetic tremor
Neuropathy
Spasticity (state of increased muscular tone with exaggerated tendon reflexes)
Weakness
Shy Drager Syndrome
Shy Drager syndrome, also known as "multiple system atrophy with autonomic failure," is similar to Parkinson's disease, but impairment of the autonomic nervous system is much more severe. The autonomic nervous system controls involuntary bodily functions such as blood pressure; gastrointestinal motility; and bladder, bowel, and sexual function.

The most prominent symptom of Shy Drager syndrome is what is known as "postural hypotension." Upon standing or sitting, patients' blood pressure drops to such a low level that they get dizzy, lightheaded, or momentarily blackout.

Other symptoms may include the following:
Constipation
Diarrhea
Difficulties breathing or swallowing
Difficulty walking
Double vison or other vision problems
Erectile dysfunction in men
Generalized weakness
Heart beat irregularities
Incoordination
Rigidity
Sensory changes
Speech impairment
Tremor
Urinary incontinence
Urinary retention
Postural hypotension can be treated by drinking plenty of fluids, increasing salt intake, limiting caffeine intake, and by wearing elastic stockings. It also may be helpful to sleep with the head raised to reduce headaches and dizziness in the morning. Medications such as flucortisone and proamatine may be helpful in elevating blood pressure and preventing the dramatic decrease that occurs when standing.



afgani trainwreck -for my mind,muscles,pain
original u.w.-pain-
l.a. hogsbreath-pain,sleep,..frontal lobe action,lol.
i dont eat inless ingesting.trainwreck good for that

Damm Cap, you're just a plethora of information. You da man

Well it looks as though the capt has summed it up nicely. As to the vaporizer if you are looking to try one first, I would go with THC in Studio City, they have a lounge with a vapor, I am not going to lie, the last time I was there it did not have all the pieces, or you could venture to CPG in Santa Monica or Whittier Collective, both these places I know have a volcano for patients to use.

[StupidUgly]

Originally Posted by Chris35

Well it looks as though the capt has summed it up nicely. As to the vaporizer if you are looking to try one first, I would go with THC in Studio City, they have a lounge with a vapor, I am not going to lie, the last time I was there it did not have all the pieces, or you could venture to CPG in Santa Monica or Whittier Collective, both these places I know have a volcano for patients to use.

The Greenhouse has one too, you should drop by and show JB some love. His Volcano lounge is super chill.

Keep up the good work Capt.ZZ, I want to see the finished list.

A decent list of strains that work for different conditions is very welcome by me! :)

Originally Posted by StupidUgly

The Greenhouse has one too, you should drop by and show JB some love. His Volcano lounge is super chill.

This is true, totally forgot, I would not mind checking that lounge out myself, heard it is very nice.

[labrat]

Originally Posted by denooch

is there any illness you didnt leave out?

like foot pain from high heeled shoes or falling off a skate board!
(not that i wear high heeled shoes)

how about a wife thats being a pain in the ass!!!!!!peace lab rat

Originally Posted by labrat

how about a wife thats being a pain in the ass!!!!!!peace lab rat

trust me that dont work, I smoked for many years while I was married and the pain just got worse LOL

[denooch]

Originally Posted by labrat

how about a wife thats being a pain in the ass!!!!!!peace lab rat

my only suggestion is that you bong-out together

[lets burn]

Thanks For Everybodys Feed Back Very Informative

[James R]

"Volcano" I've tryed a lot of other brands they suck.