[misfitpapa42]

dr. jimenez sent me a link to his site where u can file a complaint againts the investigation in which some people have been sent letters stating that they want ur help by giving them the med records. i saw dr. jimenez to day and he told me everyone that recieved a letter should file a complaint and those who do can recieve some amoount of compinsation.

http://medicalmarijuanaofsandiego.co..._attorney.html

or try http://medicalmarijuanaofsandiego.co..._attorney.html

these letters seem to have only be sent to the patients in san diego but ne one with a letter should file a complaint. i havent gotten a letter so i hope this helps ne one who did.

[MMM420SoCal]

Originally Posted by misfitpapa42

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these letters seem to have only be sent to the patients in san diego but ne one with a letter should file a complaint. i havent gotten a letter so i hope this helps ne one who did.

Hrmm, well I got a letter too and the only complaint I'm filing is against his kooky ass.

When you give your records to a club, you sign papers authorizing LEO to look at them, It is far from a HIPAA violation unless they take the records directly from HIS office.

Looks to me like he's gettin skerred and wants all the patients to back him up, well...sorry Doc, shoulda been a REAL doctor during our exams and not dude lookin to make a quick $120 off of sick patients in need.

ALso shouldn't have been handing out those 20% off discount coupons for the now defunct CCG on El Cajon. Good thing I still have one he gave me.

Also, he should have read patients records and recommended marijuana for one of their symptoms, not just some BS he pulled outta thin air. Apparently I had depression and other issues I was never aware of. He must be pyschic to know I'm depressed within 5 minutes of meeting him for the first time...

M3

[labrat]

SHIT HAPPENS!!!!! peace lab rat

[MMM420SoCal]

Originally Posted by Kaneh Bosm

THINK before posting these remarks on an open forum. Not only will it harm Dr. Jimenez and his patients, but the entire MMJ community at large.

Good, maybe it will let doctors know that patients aren't gonna roll over and take their borderline illegal antics.

Doctors doing things WRONG will hurt the community more than people failing to speak out to oust such doctors.

When people tell me "oh you shouldn't say that" It gets me fuckin pissed.

I guess if a doctor leaves a surgical instrument inside of you, or diagnoses you wrong and causes you to die from wrong medication, or if a dentist drills the wrong tooth we shouldn't speak up about it either, right???

If he wouldn't have lied, and been shady he wouldn't have this problem, and he knows it.

And Im not afraid to talk about it because I went there in good faith, with plenty of medical records and was treates a stoner looking to get high and not a PATIENT.

I would do the same for ANY doctor who doesn't conduct themselves professionally or within the law. Handing out discount coupons and referrals to clubs is 100% illegal not to mention the FAKE "exam" I received.

M3

[MMM420SoCal]

Originally Posted by Kaneh Bosm

The sad fact is the majority of these doctors who do recommend cannabis are no better than him... there's no real way to win here...

Well I'm gettin ready to get my 4th or 5th recco tommorow... I'll let you know how that goes.

Even Medicann gave me a real physical examination and took copies of my medical records. Dr. J didn't even wanna see any records. I coulda told him I had a thyroid problem and thats what my rec would have said.

I disagree with you tho, there are "pot doctors" who do nothing but write reccos and take advantage of 215, and then there are real docs who also happen to write reccos.

We as a community need to weed out (no pun intended) and get rid of these doctors who HURT our movement more than help it.

Sorry if you think I'm hurting this or that or whatever, but I wont be treated as an idiot and lied to by someone who is SUPPOSED to be concerned with my health, not his "bottom line"

IMHO the people who support such doctors are the ones who want legalization across the board and think anyone should be able to get high legally, etc...So they dont want the doctor to get in trouble cuz he's helping people get reccos that prolly couldn't get them at another doctor. That doesn't HELP anyone, especially patients, except the guy making the $$$.



M3

[smoothburn]

I think Dr. Jimenez is just giving everyone what they came in for. I would say that 100% of the patients that walk into his office know what they want and know what their problem is. As an example, a Dr. Jimenez encounter is very different from going to a doctor for right sided chest pain. If you have right sided chest pain you don't know what the problem is and will probably take the cure perscribed without much question. With Dr. Jimenez you already know what the problem is and you want the cure and that's what Dr. Jimenez provides. So, you're not going to him for his diagnosis, just for his cure.

Give Jimenez a break. He's giving the people what they want. If you want a diagnostician who will spend time with you and your condition go to a more traditional doctor. Obviously, Dr. Jimenez is all about working in the grey areas of medicine and that is usually where the real work gets done.

If you don't like his diagnostic abilities or the way he runs a practice, don't go to him.

Why does everyone want to see a guy go down when he's given you exactly what you want?

[RCB]

Originally Posted by MMM420SoCal

Hrmm, well I got a letter too and the only complaint I'm filing is against his kooky ass.

When you give your records to a club, you sign papers authorizing LEO to look at them, It is far from a HIPAA violation unless they take the records directly from HIS office.

Looks to me like he's gettin skerred and wants all the patients to back him up, well...sorry Doc, shoulda been a REAL doctor during our exams and not dude lookin to make a quick $120 off of sick patients in need.

ALso shouldn't have been handing out those 20% off discount coupons for the now defunct CCG on El Cajon. Good thing I still have one he gave me.

Also, he should have read patients records and recommended marijuana for one of their symptoms, not just some BS he pulled outta thin air. Apparently I had depression and other issues I was never aware of. He must be pyschic to know I'm depressed within 5 minutes of meeting him for the first time...

M3

http://www.craigcohenmd.com/

When my son and I left Dr. Cohen's office after he thoroughly reviewed our medical evidence, with recommendations in-hand, we left his office feeling like a tremendous burden had been lifted from our shoulders. There is no pill that could have produced that sense of euphoria. That was un-adulterated love in progress! This doctor's healing powers are on a deeper level some people may miss. So, since I have a glimpse of what it feels like to be depressed, I do know how you felt "within 5-minutes" after you left the other dr.'s office. Dr. Cohen is the real deal MMJ doctor. Read his web site. Go to his office. He works on a sliding scale. He's actually spreading the revenues to all patients, so don't feel bad about paying the big bucks, if you can afford it -- you will be saving somebody else's life by doing so, and don't be ashamed to show him financial documentation to corroborate a financial hardship cause nobody who needs a MMJ rec. ain't not getting one, espeicially if they can't afford it! ...ever meet a doctor who literally puts his patients needs first? I did. Dr. Cohen. He's recommended two of our friends too. Both were in the dark about MMJ but both benefit greatly from it now. Each paid based on their ability to pay, and so did we!

[MMM420SoCal]

Originally Posted by smoothburn

Why does everyone want to see a guy go down when he's given you exactly what you want?

HE didn't give me what I wanted...a quality exam that gave me comfort knowing he'd have my back in court if the need arrised.

I felt like in 2 days he wouldn't know me from ****.

Anyway, whatever I'm done with it. Ive sufficiently voiced my opinion of him.


M3

[jaybird]

you guys should keep ur post positive.back your doctors like they should back us

[MMM420SoCal]

Originally Posted by RCB

http://www.craigcohenmd.com/

When my son and I left Dr. Cohen's office after he thoroughly reviewed our medical evidence, with recommendations in-hand, we left his office feeling like a tremendous burden had been lifted from our shoulders. There is no pill that could have produced that sense of euphoria. That was un-adulterated love in progress! This doctor's healing powers are on a deeper level some people may miss. So, since I have a glimpse of what it feels like to be depressed, I do know how you felt "within 5-minutes" after you left the other dr.'s office. Dr. Cohen is the real deal MMJ doctor. Read his web site. Go to his office. He works on a sliding scale. He's actually spreading the revenues to all patients, so don't feel bad about paying the big bucks, if you can afford it -- you will be saving somebody else's life by doing so, and don't be ashamed to show him financial documentation to corroborate a financial hardship cause nobody who needs a MMJ rec. ain't not getting one, espeicially if they can't afford it! ...ever meet a doctor who literally puts his patients needs first? I did. Dr. Cohen. He's recommended two of our friends too. Both were in the dark about MMJ but both benefit greatly from it now. Each paid based on their ability to pay, and so did we!

SO FAR WHAT I've seen of Cohen has been positive. Thank you for the information R!


M

[BabyBoomer]

Originally Posted by MMM420SoCal

Well I'm gettin ready to get my 4th or 5th recco tommorow... I'll let you know how that goes. M3

How did your rec exam go today? Any doctor that you would recommend now?

Thanks.

Boomer

[savage]

Originally Posted by shannon.randall

After reading your negativity towards Doctor Jimenez, I have one thing to say about your kooky ass. Stop smoking weed. You give pot smokers a bad name. You assume that everyone that has seen the doctor is going to feel like you? Your posts reek of pompous arrogance. Too bad everyone who gets along with the doctor has no problems and it must piss you off. Judging by your posts, if I was the doctor, I'd probably attempt to get you out of my face as soon as possible.

Someone was going to speak up and tell you where you should go to stick your depressedd head. And that is up your own ass that you speak out of.

Just do everyone a favor on this board. Remove your head from your ass before you post here.

Thanks and Good day!
shannon

shut the hell up with your 1 post... back to topic!

Originally Posted by shannon.randall

After reading your negativity towards Doctor Jimenez, I have one thing to say about your kooky ass. Stop smoking weed. You give pot smokers a bad name. You assume that everyone that has seen the doctor is going to feel like you? Your posts reek of pompous arrogance. Too bad everyone who gets along with the doctor has no problems and it must piss you off. Judging by your posts, if I was the doctor, I'd probably attempt to get you out of my face as soon as possible.

Someone was going to speak up and tell you where you should go to stick your depressedd head. And that is up your own ass that you speak out of.

Just do everyone a favor on this board. Remove your head from your ass before you post here.

Thanks and Good day!
shannon

This post is completely uncalled for and completely off topic. Please read the rules before posting again. Now lets get back on topic.

[savage]

Originally Posted by RCB

I'm telling mom you said "hell".

LOL...

[rpiggy]

I'm not hating, just wondering. Any chance that all the talk about (not a)Dr. Jimenez aimed a bit of unwanted attention at the situation and could have facilitated the current giant hassle?

[smoothburn]

Originally Posted by MMM420SoCal

HE didn't give me what I wanted...a quality exam that gave me comfort knowing he'd have my back in court if the need arrised.
M3

You're a patient. Unless the law changes, you're protected. Why does Jimenez need to cover your back even further? He did cover you. He wrote a lawful recommendation.

Did you choose Dr. Jimenez for the initial consultation for your medical condition? I can say with almost 100% certainty that you did not. You tried traditional medicine first and had plenty of quality exams along the way. Jimenez is not there to give you a quality exam. As I said previously, you already know what your condition is before you go and by visiting Dr. Jimenez you've decided what your cure is. Jimenez will give you the cure. Why would you possibly need another quality exam? Is it just to validate what you already know one more time? Are you unsure of what condition you're seeing Dr. Jimenez for?

My first contention stands, everyone goes to a 420 doc knowing what their condition is and what cure they want.

[SD Kush]

Originally Posted by shannon.randall

After reading your negativity towards Doctor Jimenez, I have one thing to say about your kooky ass. Stop smoking weed. You give pot smokers a bad name. You assume that everyone that has seen the doctor is going to feel like you? Your posts reek of pompous arrogance. Too bad everyone who gets along with the doctor has no problems and it must piss you off. Judging by your posts, if I was the doctor, I'd probably attempt to get you out of my face as soon as possible.

Someone was going to speak up and tell you where you should go to stick your depressedd head. And that is up your own ass that you speak out of.

Just do everyone a favor on this board. Remove your head from your ass before you post here.

Thanks and Good day!
shannon

Is this a f*cking joke? I for one, agree with MMM420SoCal, we should not support fake doctors who cause nothing but problems for the movement. I for one, know that if my doctor didn't examine my medical records and talk to me for 30-45 minutes I would have felt no where near comfortable having that doc write my rec. MMJ isn't just about being the "best" stoner, its about getting people the relief they desire. I for one, don't consider myself the "ultimate" pot head, just a person looking for the relief that I need to get myself through a day without pain.

[MMM420SoCal]

Originally Posted by BabyBoomer

How did your rec exam go today? Any doctor that you would recommend now?

Thanks.

Boomer

Went to Medicann at 7315 Santa Monica.

Saw a REAL doctor, in a REAL office. My records were examined, my treatment goals and plan was reviewed. Medical records from my latest physical therapy and chiro visits were copied and retained. The nice doctor even gave a brief hands on exam so she would KNOW I'm in pain (I got massive spasm in my left/upper back region)

In this case I had stacks and stacks of paper work. Even with all the papers and the exam and everything I was in there for over 40 minutes.

I dont even get to spend 40 minutes with an HMO-type doctor on the rare occasions I can see them. I'm 100% impressed with Medicann, and they ALWAYS ANSWER THE TELEPHONE! So yah, I'm good for another 215-filled year


I've been told by numerous people that "Dr. Vichary" (sp?) in Hollywood is also an excellent, real doctor who will also write Marinol scripts at the time of your recco appointment. (323)876-9133

Much love!

M3

[MMM420SoCal]

Originally Posted by shannon.randall

Just do everyone a favor on this board. Remove your head from your ass before you post here.

Thanks and Good day!
shannon

Remove your nose from Dr. J's ass and we'll be all good :D

I can have my OPINIONS just as you can. ALL of this is simply MY opinion. If he works for you, great. I just wanted to express MY experiences to those willing to listen :D

Anyway I'm done...I dont want it to keep going on and on, I dont deal with him now, I don't have a recco with him now and it really doesn't effect ME anymore.

At least you can't say you weren't warned :D


M3

[BabyBoomer]

M3 -
So glad all turned out well for you.
Did you get the Medicann Photo ID card?
I've only had one recommendation and it was with Medicann so I don't have any history to compare with. The doctor that I had my exam with completely went through all my medical history and took copies of some of the reports. He commented on how he wished all of his patients were so organized. I got my recommendation for one year. When it is time to renew, I do plan to visit Medicann again.
Thank you for posting your experience.
Boomer

[MMM420SoCal]

Originally Posted by BabyBoomer

M3 -
So glad all turned out well for you.
Did you get the Medicann Photo ID card?
I've only had one recommendation and it was with Medicann so I don't have any history to compare with. The doctor that I had my exam with completely went through all my medical history and took copies of some of the reports. He commented on how he wished all of his patients were so organized. I got my recommendation for one year. When it is time to renew, I do plan to visit Medicann again.
Thank you for posting your experience.
Boomer

Yes, I ordered the ID card as well.

A note to patients: Medicann doesn't keep exact change around. Once they are compensated the $$$ is dropped and can't be had for change.

As such, if you have say a $100 bill or (2) 50s, you wont get change back. In my case I had (2) 50s so I told them to take the $10 and gimme the ID card instead.

SO basically, a renewal w/ID card is $100.

Also, I wanna say I arrived late for my appointment (fookin 10W traffic) and had to wait about an hour to be seen, but they were really cordial and I was stoked that they squeezed me in (I left my pad at 7am for a 10am appointment)

Much love to Medicann.

Ive also heard lots of good stuff about ACC, they do easy verifications and seem to be open a lot of hours.


M3

With all respect to M3, but I have to strongly disagree with your posts.

If we had an abundance of doctors who would write a medical recommendation for marijuana after treating you for your condition with conventional methods first, this would not be an issue. Unfortunately, we're
dealing with the 'stigma' of using an drug being categorized as illegal by our federal government.
I didn't go to Dr. Jimenez for a complete workup on a condition I had already been diagnosed with. As someone who had been dealing with her pain management for years now, I knew EXACTLY what I needed that I couldn't get from my regular physician. I had no medical records in hand yet because of my recent move to SD, but I was in pain and didn't have the resources to get MJ off the streets. He gave me a 6 mo card and, when I returned with my doctor's diagnosis for my degenerative disc condition, he looked through them carefully and made copies of the pertinent information. He gave me a quick exam to determine my area of pain/discomfort as well as level of pain. Yes, it was not a 45 min exam, but as a mother with a toddler, thats not what I necessarily wanted.
Perhaps what you're looking for in a MMJ recommending DR is not what Dr. Jimenez provides. But, for this patient, Dr. Jimenez gave me exactly the services I needed in a timely manner much appreciated. And I"ve never had problems being verified.
I'm sure M3 had valid issues regarding discount coupons etc. I'm not saying that I believe that Dr. Jimenez has the highest ethics on the planet or that he's not making a bloody fortune with recommendations. But I have never seen him recommend any dispensaries or do anything other than over schedule his office visits. And until we have more doctors willing to recommend MMJ to patients in need, stating your personal opinion of his services as illegal is more of a detriment to this movement IMHO than beneficial. :(

TaZ

[MMM420SoCal]

Well hopefully he's learned some things since I saw him.

Hopefully now he wears scrubs and not Hawaiian shirts.

Maybe now he meets patients in a real medical office and not on a street corner, Spy Vs. Spy style.

And maybe now he doesn't give discount fliers to local co-ops for a kick back (read: federally illegal).

If he's stopped doing all those things, then yes I will agree he has improved as a MMJ provider.

M3

Well, he very well may have. :)

The times, I've seen him its been black t-shirts. And his office seems to be under perpetual construction, and could use a 'real' waiting room.
But its definitely an office, albeit not a medical facility.

And I witnessed him declining to recommend any dispensary and specifically telling the person it was illegal for him to do so. Much less hand out a discount coupon/flier.

And his receptionist isn't too hard to look at either :P

Just wanted to say that what may not have been a good fit for you, was actually a good fit for me. There's always room for improvement, but baby steps will get us there..:) I'd like to see some 'mainstream' physicians become more active in MMJ recommendations as well as my Med Insurance covering.

Have a good one! :)

regards,
TaZ

Originally Posted by MMM420SoCal

Well hopefully he's learned some things since I saw him.

Hopefully now he wears scrubs and not Hawaiian shirts.

Maybe now he meets patients in a real medical office and not on a street corner, Spy Vs. Spy style.

And maybe now he doesn't give discount fliers to local co-ops for a kick back (read: federally illegal).

If he's stopped doing all those things, then yes I will agree he has improved as a MMJ provider.

M3

[Dankz]

Jeez,

I have a patient who saw Dr.J this september and guess what, It was in a group meeting with 4 other patients..


I dont care if this guy checked your medical recs, My patient had copies of medical history and everything but Dr.J just quickly wrote him a recommedation but hey atleast it was for his right condition. You cant beat the true Facts, He broke the law and wrote a recommedation to NBC. Who didnt even have any medical rec's!!

I wish he could come on here and post and answer some questions..

Im glad you saw him as your doctor but seriously you wouldnt be supporting this guy if you didnt see him as your first Medical Marijuana doctor, The truth hurts and This guy has set a horrable example for Medical marijuana in San Diego and Maybe if he didnt write so many recommedations to patients without medical history than maybe the District Attorney and County Supervisors of San Diego wouldnt think Prop215 and SB420 is a complete joke...


*Dankz