[healing Herb]

Doug Pelmear said he has perfected an engine developed by his grandfather 60 years ago. As gas prices continue to rise across the country, Pelmear said his engine gives his 1987 Ford Mustang 110 mpg.

"My grandfather had the idea back in the (1940s) that he (could) make a difference then," Pelmear said. "There was quite a need at that time also, with the war going on and everything."

Pelmear, a mechanic in Napoleon, has been tweaking the engine for the past 10 years, squeezing out the maximum amount of power for a minimum amount of gas.

"This will bring back the automotive industry," he said. "They can sell trucks and (sport utility vehicles) and the models that are almost dead at this time."

Pelmear said the engine is 400 horsepower and goes from zero to 60 mph in three seconds.

Some seemed more excited by the car's power than its thrifty use of gas.

"Even those of us who grew up in the muscle car age, this will pretty much blow your muscle car away," said developer Mark Schnitkey.

Pelmear wouldn't allow anyone to take a detailed look under the car's hood -- some of his gizmos are still awaiting patents, he said.

But Pelmear said the secret lies in making the engine more efficient. And with a little more work, developers believe they'll be getting 500 miles to the gallon and revolutionizing the auto industry.


This is what the THE OIL CARTELL KNEW 2 YEAR'S AGO!!!!!

THEY COULDNT BUY THIS AMERICAN OFF!!!! MARK SCHNITKEY FOR PRESIDENT!


I SAW DIESEL YESTERDAY...5.19 A GALLON......

THANK GOD...AND MARK SCHNITKEY AND ALL THOSE WHO DIDNT SELL OUT TO GREEDY OIL CARTEL'S

[HappaGuy]

I'll believe this when I see it work.

I worked at a Japanese car company HQ in Japan for a few years. They are famous for the quality of their engines. I remember seeing reports of the extensive research they do tweaking their engines for another tiny increment of efficiency and power. I'd be really surprised if they overlooked a technology that would triple mileage per gallon.

It would be nice if this technology works as claimed.

But of course, we must stop burning fossil fuels period. The fossil carbon (removed from the atmosphere hundreds of millions of years ago) we return to circulation in the atmosphere thereby is turning the ocean to coca cola.

The oceans are a "carbon sink". They have been sucking up most of the fossil carbon dioxide humans produce for a hundred years now, and they are getting ready to burp.

Remember how coke is said to dissolve your teeth?

Carbon dioxide and water mix to form carbonic acid, which dissolves the calcium carbonate of which all the clamshells and coral are made.

More importantly, it dissolves the shells of the tiny ocean-borne phytoplankton that produce most of the earth's oxygen - a great deal more than rainforests etc..

So IMHO this engine amounts to stabbing the earth in the heart with a needle instead of a knife.

Still, it will be interesting should this engine technology live up to the claims. It won't make things worse.

Those guys at my former car company were covering up a lot of things (deadly manufacturing defects ) when I was there and I had no clue.

Sure would be nice if I'm wrong.

[The Urban Spaceman]

ya know, back in the day, Gort developed a pill that would turn ordinary water into Gasoline. no shit, he really did. he also came up with a synthetic rubber for tires that never wears out. NEVER!

so we send a human out with these developments and whadda ya think he does? does he give them to the scientists of your world? hell no... he sells the pill to the big oil companies and the formula for the rubber to Goodyear. and what happened?
are y'all filling up from your garden hose? not so much... how about those tires? replacing them pretty regularly are ya?

hey we tried to help your people (see The Day the Earth Stood Still if you don't believe me!). seems like all you care about is making a buck and killing each other! (ok and getting laid too!) we even tried crashing one of our saucers in the desert so you could develop some MODERN science and computer technology from us. and whadda ya do - you cover the whole thing up. Area 51! you are a greedy bunch of bi-pedal humanoids!

i DO think Bill Gates got ahold of some of our stuff tho... those PC's happened mighty quickly!

[Mindfury]

has anyone heard, read about HHO? water is the fuel. looks liek they could/should use it now. this is a interesting video.

[The Urban Spaceman]

Originally Posted by Mindfury

has anyone heard, read about HHO? water is the fuel. looks liek they could/should use it now. this is a interesting video.

DAMMIT - I told Gort NOT to tell anyone how he fuels his heat ray! that robot is a whore who will do ANYTHING for a buck!

[healing Herb]

Originally Posted by HappaGuy

I'll believe this when I see it work.

I worked at a Japanese car company HQ in Japan for a few years. They are famous for the quality of their engines. I remember seeing reports of the extensive research they do tweaking their engines for another tiny increment of efficiency and power. I'd be really surprised if they overlooked a technology that would triple mileage per gallon.

It would be nice if this technology works as claimed.

But of course, we must stop burning fossil fuels period. The fossil carbon (removed from the atmosphere hundreds of millions of years ago) we return to circulation in the atmosphere thereby is turning the ocean to coca cola.

The oceans are a "carbon sink". They have been sucking up most of the fossil carbon dioxide humans produce for a hundred years now, and they are getting ready to burp.

Remember how coke is said to dissolve your teeth?

Carbon dioxide and water mix to form carbonic acid, which dissolves the calcium carbonate of which all the clamshells and coral are made.

More importantly, it dissolves the shells of the tiny ocean-borne phytoplankton that produce most of the earth's oxygen - a great deal more than rainforests etc..

So IMHO this engine amounts to stabbing the earth in the heart with a needle instead of a knife.

Still, it will be interesting should this engine technology live up to the claims. It won't make things worse.

Those guys at my former car company were covering up a lot of things (deadly manufacturing defects ) when I was there and I had no clue.

Sure would be nice if I'm wrong.

SAW IT ON CHANNEL 4 NEWS heres the link and video....http://www.knbc.com/news/16767930/detail.html

[ironchefblue]

I call bullshit, don't care if it's all over the interwebs and TV. The energy contained in the easily breakable chemical bonds in petro/biochemical fuel + adiabatic efficiency possible with an internal combustion engine = there's no way to make 400 horsepower and get 110 mpg at the same time.

[healing Herb]

Originally Posted by ironchefblue

I call bullshit, don't care if it's all over the interwebs and TV. The energy contained in the easily breakable chemical bonds in petro/biochemical fuel + adiabatic efficiency possible with an internal combustion engine = there's no way to make 400 horsepower and get 110 mpg at the same time.

I WANT TO BELIEVE THIS STORY....ITS ON KNBC..IF THERE WRONG..CAN THEY BE SUED?

[ironchefblue]

I really doubt they can be sued. They're just reporting on the story of some joker making unsubstantiated claims. I'd love to be proven wrong and see his technology really do what it says, I'm just not holding my breath.

If the news/media wasn't reporting overblown stories and using scare tactics to generate ratings, what would they do with all of their time?

[healing Herb]

Originally Posted by ironchefblue

I really doubt they can be sued. They're just reporting on the story of some joker making unsubstantiated claims. I'd love to be proven wrong and see his technology really do what it says, I'm just not holding my breath.

If the news/media wasn't reporting overblown stories and using scare tactics to generate ratings, what would they do with all of their time?

THESE GAS PRICES ARE SLOWLY GIVING AWAY AMERICA....THEY COULDENT INVADE US..SO BUY US...

WELL SEE...AMERICA SHOULD FILE BANKRUPCY..PULL OUT OF IRAQ..AFGANISTAN...RENIG ON ALL LOANS AND WRITE OFF THE 6 TRILLION WE OWE CHINA!

UNLESS WE GO WITH THIS CAR..

The Air Car caused a huge stir when we reported last year that Tata Motors would begin producing it in India. Now the little gas-free ride that could is headed Stateside in a big-time way.


digg_url = 'http://digg.com/autos/Air_Powered_Cars_to_Hit_US_by_2010';
Zero Pollution Motors (ZPM) confirmed to PopularMechanics.com on Thursday that it expects to produce the world’s first air-powered car for the United States by late 2009 or early 2010. As the U.S. licensee for Luxembourg-based MDI, which developed the Air Car as a compression-based alternative to the internal combustion engine, ZPM has attained rights to build the first of several modular plants, which are likely to begin manufacturing in the Northeast and grow for regional production around the country, at a clip of up to 10,000 Air Cars per year.

And while ZPM is also licensed to build MDI’s two-seater OneCAT economy model (the one headed for India) and three-seat MiniCAT (like a SmartForTwo without the gas), the New Paltz, N.Y., startup is aiming bigger: Company officials want to make the first air-powered car to hit U.S. roads a $17,800, 75-hp equivalent, six-seat modified version of MDI’s CityCAT (pictured above) that, thanks to an even more radical engine, is said to travel as far as 1000 miles at up to 96 mph with each tiny fill-up.

We’ll believe that when we drive it, but MDI’s new dual-energy engine—currently being installed in models at MDI facilities overseas—is still pretty damn cool in concept. After using compressed air fed from the same Airbus-built tanks in earlier models to run its pistons, the next-gen Air Car has a supplemental energy source to kick in north of 35 mph, ZPM says. A custom heating chamber heats the air in a process officials refused to elaborate upon, though they insisted it would increase volume and thus the car’s range and speed.

“I want to stress that these are estimates, and that we’ll know soon more precisely from our engineers,” ZPM spokesman Kevin Haydon told PM, “but a vehicle with one tank of air and, say, 8 gal. of either conventional petrol, ethanol or biofuel could hit between 800 and 1000 miles.”

Those figures would make the Air Car, along with Aptera’s Typ-1 and Tesla’s Roadster, a favorite among early entrants for the Automotive X Prize, for which MDI and ZPM have already signed up. But with the family-size, four-door CityCAT undergoing standard safety tests in Europe, then side-impact tests once it arrives in the States, could it be the first 100-mpg, nonelectric car you can actually buy?

Zero to 60 mph in three seconds?

Originally Posted by Mindfury

has anyone heard, read about HHO? water is the fuel. looks liek they could/should use it now. this is a interesting video.

I've been doing some research on this lately, sounds pretty feasible. I might try it in my vehicle.

[Thraxz]

Fords original motor was meant to run off of alternative fuel!!Not Gas,made from Oil..These are the the things that can be changed but wont, There is to much money being made by a few who have the power and control of this Country to ever let you and I have the equal freedom we were entitled to..
There are alternatives to fossil fuels and there has been for a long time, Oil is what this Country runs on..We get our strength from it "True Industrial Freedom". That will also be our down fall..Those that run the Country are few, The many will and are suffering while the Few keep gaining power on our sweat and suffering..
Today in the face of Adversity and in the hour of the peoples need, Lets stand as one people and Protest, March and Boycott those who would keep you down, Take the time to write your Reps, Dont drive your car today walk, and don't be ashamed of Medicating for whatever reason..They Forced Gay marriage on us!!
Just an Opinion!! Jesus saved us, Lincoln Freed us, and MMJ Cannabis Hemp can fix it all!!

[ironchefblue]

Hydrogen as a feul is nothing new. Splitting they hydrogen and oxygen apart from plain water requires... electricity! Now, if you can generate plenty of clean/green electricity then it's quite feasable to use water as a fuel. That's the whole problem with plug-in electric cars, hydrogen wether feul cell or combustion, even things like the air car. You need to get that electricity from somewhere and in the US, 95% (gross estimate) of our power still comes from coal/gas/oil petrochemical sources. It doesn't matter how clean the car is if a coal fire powerplant is filling the tank and polluting the air.

We need to leverage all of our options to make alternative energy. On the coast? Use wave or tidal generated power. Get a shitload of wind? Build wind turbines. 300+ days of full sun a year? Build large scale solar collector sites. I could ramble on but you get the idea. Maybe someday fusion will be practical but until then, we need to get local with power and use what fits the area.

Here's a cool article on the possible future of fusion, I can only hope it works out. Too bad the US Govmnt will end up controling this particular technology. http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archi...2/1136887.aspx

Here's some crazy large scale solar/wind turbine combo idea. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25499047/

[its4:21sryimL8]

Originally Posted by HappaGuy

I'll believe this when I see it work.

I worked at a Japanese car company HQ in Japan for a few years. They are famous for the quality of their engines. I remember seeing reports of the extensive research they do tweaking their engines for another tiny increment of efficiency and power. I'd be really surprised if they overlooked a technology that would triple mileage per gallon.

It would be nice if this technology works as claimed.

But of course, we must stop burning fossil fuels period. The fossil carbon (removed from the atmosphere hundreds of millions of years ago) we return to circulation in the atmosphere thereby is turning the ocean to coca cola.

The oceans are a "carbon sink". They have been sucking up most of the fossil carbon dioxide humans produce for a hundred years now, and they are getting ready to burp.

Remember how coke is said to dissolve your teeth?

Carbon dioxide and water mix to form carbonic acid, which dissolves the calcium carbonate of which all the clamshells and coral are made.

More importantly, it dissolves the shells of the tiny ocean-borne phytoplankton that produce most of the earth's oxygen - a great deal more than rainforests etc..

So IMHO this engine amounts to stabbing the earth in the heart with a needle instead of a knife.

Still, it will be interesting should this engine technology live up to the claims. It won't make things worse.

Those guys at my former car company were covering up a lot of things (deadly manufacturing defects ) when I was there and I had no clue.

Sure would be nice if I'm wrong.

he is 100% right. i will believe it when i see it. so an engine that gets 100 mph and has 400 horsepower... toyota came up with a 400 hp hybrid..

man i could only imagine that such an engine would be hella expensive to fix should it break down. not to meniton that joe-shmoe mechanic probaly dont know much about hybrids..., i really dont know if gasoline fuel hybrids are the answer for the future.
we need to stop burning fuel period.. not slow the consumption. we need some dam hover cars... man is 2008 whers my dam hover car! :slaugh: