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| Crohn's Patient Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: west la Co-Op: No Vendor: no Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 2978 | Tips for Falling Asleep? so two days this week ive been up all night, i just lay in bed and cant doze off, anybody have any suggestions? cant drink milk and been medicatin as usual.... |
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| WT Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 53 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? last two times i couldnt fall asleep i counted too one hundred until i fell asleep. the first time i fell asleep before i got to 100, the second time i counted too a few hundred. kinda like counting sheep, but without the sheep... anyways, try it out. it might work for you. |
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| Weed Wizard Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: So Cal Co-Op: No Vendor: No Patient: Yes
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Rep Power: 133115 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? this might help. Tips for better daytime habits Do not nap during the day. If you are having trouble sleeping at night, try not to nap during the day because you will throw off your body clock and make it even more difficult to sleep at night. If you are feeling especially tired, and feel as if you absolutely must nap, be sure to sleep for less than 30 minutes, early in the day. Limit caffeine and alcohol. Avoid drinking caffeinated or alcoholic beverages for several hours before bedtime. Although alcohol may initially act as a sedative, it can interrupt normal sleep patterns. Don't smoke. Nicotine is a stimulant and can make it difficult to fall asleep and stay asleep. Many over-the-counter and prescription drugs disrupt sleep. Expose yourself to bright light/sunlight soon after awakening. This will help to regulate your body's natural biological clock. Likewise, try to keep your bedroom dark while you are sleeping so that the light will not interfere with your rest. Exercise early in the day. Twenty to thirty minutes of exercise every day can help you sleep, but be sure to exercise in the morning or afternoon. Exercise stimulates the body and aerobic activity before bedtime may make falling asleep more difficult. Check your iron level. Iron deficient women tend to have more problems sleeping so if your blood is iron poor, a supplement might help your health and your ability to sleep. Tips for a better sleep environment Make sure your bed is large enough and comfortable. If you are disturbed by a restless bedmate, switch to a queen- or king-size bed. Test different types of mattresses. Try therapeutic shaped foam pillows that cradle your neck or extra pillows that help you sleep on your side. Get comfortable cotton sheets. Make your bedroom primarily a place for sleeping. It is not a good idea to use your bed for paying bills, doing work, etc. Help your body recognize that this is a place for rest or intimacy. Keep your bedroom peaceful and comfortable. Make sure your room is well ventilated and the temperature consistent. And try to keep it quiet. You could use a fan or a "white noise" machine to help block outside noises. Hide your clock. A big, illuminated digital clock may cause you to focus on the time and make you feel stressed and anxious. Place your clock so you can't see the time when you are in bed. Tips for a better pre-sleep ritual Keep a regular schedule. Try to go to bed and wake up at the same time everyday, even on the weekends. Keeping a regular schedule will help your body expect sleep at the same time each day. Don’t oversleep to make up for a poor night’s sleep – doing that for even a couple of days can reset your body clock and make it hard for you to get to sleep at night. Incorporate bedtime rituals. Listening to soft music, sipping a cup of herbal tea, etc., cues your body that it's time to slow down and begin to prepare for sleep. Relax for a while before going to bed. Spending quiet time can make falling asleep easier. This may include meditation, relaxation and/or breathing exercises, or taking a warm bath. Try listening to recorded relaxation or guided imagery programs. Don’t eat a large, heavy meal before bed. This can cause indigestion and interfere with your normal sleep cycle. Drinking too much fluid before bed can cause you to get up to urinate. Try to eat your dinner at least two hours before bedtime. Bedtime snacks can help. An amino acid called tryptophan, found in milk, turkey, and peanuts, helps the brain produce serotonin, a chemical that helps you relax. Try drinking warm milk or eat a slice of toast with peanut butter or a bowl of cereal before bedtime. Plus, the warmth may temporarily increase your body temperature and the subsequent drop may hasten sleep. Jot down all of your concerns and worries. Anxiety excites the nervous system, so your brain sends messages to the adrenal glands, making you more alert. Write down your worries and possible solutions before you go to bed, so you don't need to ruminate in the middle of the night. A journal or "to do" list may be very helpful in letting you put away these concerns until the next day when you are fresh. Go to sleep when you are sleepy. When you feel tired, go to bed. Avoid "over-the-counter" sleep aids, and make sure that your prescribed medications do not cause insomnia. There is little evidence that supplements and other over-the-counter "sleep aids" are effective. In some cases, there are safety concerns. Antihistamine sleep aids, in particular, have a long duration of action and can cause daytime drowsiness. Always talk to your doctor or healthcare practitioner about your concerns! Tips for getting back to sleep Do visualization. Focus all your attention on your toes or visualize walking down an endless stairwell. Thinking about repetitive or mindless things will help your brain to shut down and adjust to sleep. Get out of bed if unable to sleep. Don’t lie in bed awake. Go into another room and do something relaxing until you feel sleepy. Worrying about falling asleep actually keeps many people awake. Don't do anything stimulating. Don't read anything job related or watch a stimulating TV program (commercials and news shows tend to be alerting). Don't expose yourself to bright light. The light gives cues to your brain that it is time to wake up. Get up and eat some turkey. Turkey contains tryptophan, a major building block for making serotonin, a neurotransmitter, which sends messages between nerve cells and causes feelings of sleepiness. Note that L-tryptophan doesn't act on the brain unless you eat it on an empty stomach with no protein present, so keep some turkey in the refrigerator for 3am. Consider changing your bedtime. If you are experiencing sleeplessness or insomnia consistently, think about going to bed later so that the time you spend in bed is spent sleeping. If you are only getting five hours of sleep at night, figure out what time you need to get up and subtract five hours (for example, if you want to get up at 6:00 am, go to bed at 1:00 am). This may seem counterproductive and, at first, you may be depriving yourself of some sleep, but it can help train your body to sleep consistently while in bed. When you are spending all of your time in bed sleeping, you can gradually sleep more, by adding 15 minutes at a time. |
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| Pay It Forward Join Date: Mar 2007 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 39 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? I never copied and pasted so quickly... Thanks S... I needed insight like this badly! unhazedhook |
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| HASHBOSS Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: on a screen Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 176 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? get some good purps/indica concentrate and snap that right before bed always works for me and keeps me asleep until I have to wake up in the morning ps I just smoked a snap of grape ape with some bubba kush kif on top and also one with super goo kif and then 2 snaps bubba kush with the same kifs respectively...about to hit the hay Peace |
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| Weed Wizard Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reseda Co-Op: YES Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 119498 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? I eat a chef cake and smoke a few OG loads then some sour og...and then...Much Love.. |
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| Weed Wizard Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: So Cal Co-Op: No Vendor: No Patient: Yes
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Rep Power: 133115 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? hahahaha. yeah man. that would do it too :) |
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| Exercise, avoid caffeine, and if you have a friend that you really trust, you could try this without a helmet. |
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| HMG Representative Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Edge Of The Continent Co-Op: NO Vendor: no Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 1342 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? trying smoking a nice indica, and also try listening to music if im really medicated or tired ill pass out no problem but 95%+ of the time i put my headphones on and play some music |
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| Ok... What did I say wrong now... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: 626 Co-Op: Yes Vendor: No Patient: Yes
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Rep Power: 15 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? Quote:
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| Space Cowboy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Shore Co-Op: No Vendor: no Patient: Yes
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Rep Power: 20 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? A glass of wine and two Excedrin PM's works for me every time. |
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| The intuition of free will gives us the truth. Join Date: Sep 2007 Co-Op: No Vendor: No Patient: Yes
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Rep Power: 62164 | I have a real hard time with sleep. At least 4 nights a week I can not go to sleep till 5 in the morn. Sometimes reading and many of those things listed in prior posts work for me but most the time I just have to ride it out and be tired as all hell the next day and pray that it does'nt happen two days in a row. Insomnia Suck's! |
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| Medicating makes me jolly. Join Date: Jan 2007 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 44 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? Watch the Presidential candidate debates. Any one of 'em, it doesn't matter. Seriously. You will be comatose within 20 minutes. |
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| Hi, Im New! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chico, CA!! born and raised Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 0 | Gravity hits till you can't remember why you started taking em! yaaa buddy! |
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| High, I'm New Join Date: Aug 2007 Co-Op: NO Vendor: YES Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? I like to mix a few hits of a good concentrate with a nice toke of some indica. This seems to always put me in the relaxed ready to sleep mode. Also... even though you may not feel tired, still lay down and put your head back. Some nice mellow music played low helps me also. Good luck! |
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| WT Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South Bay Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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| Bad as can Join Date: Jul 2007 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 614 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? Try any of the films from the oceans 11 series, works like a charm for me. |
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| Part of the Solution Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: San Diego Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 62282 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? I am one of those guys with a screwy circadian cycle and don't naturally fall asleep till 3 or 4am. My MD tried every kind of sleep med, then finally mmj. The last stuff I was taking was Ambien and Trazadone. It was only working off and on, the Trazadone leaving me very groggy the next day. My wife was very concerned about the Ambien since I was talking to here and doing things in the middle of the night that I did not remember. MMJ changed all that. I smoke sativas mostly during the day and smoke gdp in the evening. By the time I am ready for bed I fall right to sleep. I am growing some Afghan and hope it is equally effective as the gdp. |
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| The Oracle Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Palmdale Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 11 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? watch lord of the rings |
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| WT Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Co-Op: YES Vendor: NO Patient: Yes
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Rep Power: 528 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? bong rip of bubba bubble hash on a gdp green screen. either that, or make a batch of brownies with an oz of og shake infused into 1/2 cup of butter. throw the butter into one batch of brownies in a 13X9 bake dish, and cut into 12-16 pieces. thats what ive been using this past week since i have a respiratory infection at the moment. i will swear by these brownies im making, and have actually reconsidered returning to smoking. edibles have a great duration of effect, and last me through at least 6-7 solid hours of deep sleep. i havent slept better than this past week in a about a year, literally. i regret that it was an illness which led me to rediscovering the joy of consuming mmj, but am greatfull none the less. best wishes to you and hope your able to find some relief. |
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| MMJ Patient Advocate (not a doctor nor a lawyer) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Francisco Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES
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If all those sleep-hygiene measures that Sweetleaf spells out at length doesn't work for you, definitely talk to your doc and consider getting referred to a neurologist for EEGs and maybe a full-blown sleep study. And be persistent. My sleep study with EEG turned up nothing and was told that my second EEG was the same, until the last moment the neurologist noticed the characteristic spike of epilepsy. I suffered insomnia for over a decade until I was finally diagnosed with epilepsy (a hidden sort - complex partial seizures) that evidently interrupts my sleep many times nightly. The complications, like not being able to heal from colds and furious irritability took casualties. I lost my love and career and family and a great many friends along the way. I got my sleep more or less under control after I added anti-seizure meds to cannabis and klonapin. (Missed my meds last night without realizing, and spent the night awake and ruminating. Gonna be a rough day, and I'm just praying I don't fall sick again. -The last month was living death enough for one year.- Please forgive me if I've rambled. Great post Sweetleaf. I cut and pasted too. Many thanks. Hang in there JustOneVoice. Yes insomnia sucks and nothing is going to get better until you get some sleep. Eventually you will. Do what you must to get there. Also, avoid alcohol. (I don't remember that mentioned above). It may help you fall asleep but you'll wake early. If you have epilepsy it will trigger seizures. | |
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| WT Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: venice beach Co-Op: non Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 36071 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? INSOMNIA ,overractive mind ,stimulating environment ,before bed calories ,circadian rhythm interruption > potporri (sp) of sleep antagonists ... solution : individually ,synergize reactively to symptoms ,ie., 1) auto-mind control ... cond : biorhythm peak awareness ,full/new moon exposure ... solutn : "kavakava kapsules" ,safe (contra_indicated ,'liver' disease patients) ,inexpensive ,proven anti_anxiety ,sedative properties : compared to more costly ,'tolerance building' ,cannabis supplement ; a moderate combo ,'medible/kava' ,can be an effective compromise ... 2) cutoff time for calorie intake (> 50-100 cal.) ,exercising ,2 hrs B4 retiring ... 3) mininaps (20-30 min) ,anytime B4 last meal of day ... 4) make sure to get in at least 30-45 min exercise daily (walking ,cycling ,jogging ,swimming ,etc.) ... may sound 'rote' ,but significant for proper support of 'bodily fluids circulation ,internal organ integrity' ... that is all ..... Last edited by silvercloud; 12-16-2007 at 10:29 AM.. |
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| Hi, Im New! Join Date: Dec 2007 Co-Op: No Vendor: No Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 10 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? You could also try taking melatonin. Here's some info: For Insomnia: 3 mg one hour before bedtime is usually effective, although doses as low as 0.1 to 0.3 mg may improve sleep for some people. If 3 mg per night is not effective after 3 days, try 5 to 6 mg one hour before bedtime. An effective dose should produce restful sleep with no daytime irritability or fatigue. From: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/m...00315.htm#Uses |
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| WT Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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| Juss chillin' Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Vallejo-USA Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 36168 | Re: Tips for Falling Asleep? I can't goto sleep hungry. So i have to watch medicating b4 bed. AOG earwax about an hour b4 i want sleep is nice. peace |
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