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BrattonBasher · 06-12-2009, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutie77

I went to school for pharmacy tech program and what I learn about Ambien 5mg, 6.25mg, 10mg, and 12.5mg don't help:cursing:, doctors want you to take the drugs or at least try it for a week or two, because they get paid for every prescription that they write, pharmacy school has thought me alot about pills, it is a way of making money

, and there is more side effects that ever with Ambien, Rozeram, Valium, Bendrly, anything that will give you drowiness or that sleeply feeling, I just say smoke some good INDICA 3.5 and lay your head down.:001_tt2: Ambein CR is controll released so it slowly release the medicne to your body so the effects of it will be worse.

That is not accurate. What you describe is now against the law for doctors, and when it was legal only a tiny few were actually getting bonus money for prescribing certain drugs. Ambien has not been actively marketed for years. It sells itself. All drugs have side effects, but I certainly agree that MMJ is waaaay better for you than any sleep medication.

kubrickzghost · 06-18-2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutie77

I went to school for pharmacy tech program and what I learn about Ambien 5mg, 6.25mg, 10mg, and 12.5mg don't help:cursing:, doctors want you to take the drugs or at least try it for a week or two, because they get paid for every prescription that they write, pharmacy school has thought me alot about pills, it is a way of making money

, and there is more side effects that ever with Ambien, Rozeram, Valium, Bendrly, anything that will give you drowiness or that sleeply feeling, I just say smoke some good INDICA 3.5 and lay your head down.:001_tt2: Ambein CR is controll released so it slowly release the medicne to your body so the effects of it will be worse.

Very true and very sad. The greed of big pharma companies will keep MJ illegal.

kubrickzghost · 06-18-2009, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

That is not accurate. What you describe is now against the law for doctors, and when it was legal only a tiny few were actually getting bonus money for prescribing certain drugs. Ambien has not been actively marketed for years. It sells itself. All drugs have side effects, but I certainly agree that MMJ is waaaay better for you than any sleep medication.

Huh? Maybe you did not know doctors at urgent care centers are handing out these pills hand over fist? Your doctor at Harvard may not care what drugs you take, but the little guys do. I don't think drugs should be free, but there is a prejudice for homeopathic medicines in America because they are cheap to develop. And every president faces the same problem with the drug companies. They set out to change the system 'for the people', but soon realize these companies are making way too much money for it to be restructured.

cannadyke · 06-18-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kubrickzghost

Very true and very sad. The greed of big pharma companies will keep MJ illegal.

thankfully we live in cali and have the freedom to choose an effective medicine that comes in plant form vs chemicals from a lab that cause a whole list of side effects. w/ my nightly combo of flowers and an edible (and sometimes concentrates) i haven't had to take a sleeping pill in over 4yrs!!

BrattonBasher · 06-19-2009, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kubrickzghost

Huh? Maybe you did not know doctors at urgent care centers are handing out these pills hand over fist? Your doctor at Harvard may not care what drugs you take, but the little guys do. I don't think drugs should be free, but there is a prejudice for homeopathic medicines in America because they are cheap to develop. And every president faces the same problem with the drug companies. They set out to change the system 'for the people', but soon realize these companies are making way too much money for it to be restructured.

I am well aware of what is going on in medicine, it's my job. I know about drug companies and urgent care centers. My doctor at Harvard??? Is that supposed to be a dig? LOL I would be happy to have a Harvard-educated doctor. Someone posted that doctors are getting paid by Pharma per prescription, I simply posted that that is now against the law. I said nothing about homeopathic or Presidential politics.

OGHASHPLANT310 · 07-01-2009, 02:37 PM

Dont know,know I take XANAX BARS and REMERON30mg now STAY AWAY from HYPNOTICS/SEDATIVES if u can.Like SmokeusCannabis said once youre on BENZO's youre HOOKED pretty much 4 LIFE.Excercise and smoke MJ dont become another idiot because of DOWNERS like ME LOL!!!

TiQeLReSu · 07-01-2009, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeykhyber

One of the best prescriptions for insomnia is EXERCISE.

..and if it doesn't work at least it was free and it's GOOD for you!

Everyone kinda skipped this post.
You exercise regularly for two weeks, and I bet you get more sleep..
Make your brain smart too.....

Key word regularly.......

ScrewyLewy · 07-01-2009, 05:56 PM

Thank you everyone adding top this Thread.
Some one said don't take Benzo or Z Benzo you'll be hooked for life. LOL maybe some, not me the only thing I've gotten hooked on was cigs and been off them 5 years. Like I said I took Ambien for 9 years and didn't have any withdraws that were very apparent. On the road the 70's with KISS and BOC and the Police etc etc on coke and crank I would get off the road for a couple of weeks never missed the drugs. Just lucky I guess. The Tamazapam they are giving me now might as well be sugar pills. NEXT

BabyBoomer · 07-01-2009, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScrewyLewy

Thank you everyone adding top this Thread.
Some one said don't take Benzo or Z Benzo you'll be hooked for life. LOL maybe some, not me the only thing I've gotten hooked on was cigs and been off them 5 years. Like I said I took Ambien for 9 years and didn't have any withdraws that were very apparent. On the road the 70's with KISS and BOC and the Police etc etc on coke and crank I would get off the road for a couple of weeks never missed the drugs. Just lucky I guess. The Tamazapam they are giving me now might as well be sugar pills. NEXT

Awwww nuts (couldn't resist, Lew)

Insomnia is really a serious issue.

I really hope that you find something that will work for you.

Bless you.

Billyboy88 · 07-01-2009, 09:54 PM

yes good luck, you certainly seem to know your stuff

do you know if you actually ate anything in your sleep besides just cooking?

that is crazy if so

gigirenee415 · 07-01-2009, 10:19 PM

OMG!
That sleep walking and eating thing happened to me years ago when I took Halcion. I woke up in the am to find that I had shelled, cleaned and eaten a whole Dungeness crab in the middle of the night. Now, that's messy!
My docs balked at giving me Ambien and now I have to drink a potent Jack and Coke 3-4 nites a week cuz I have nothing else to help me visit with the Sandman.
But I remember sleep walking at the age of 8 when I had no idea that there was better living through chemistry.
Am trying all the holistic methods like deep breathing, daily exercise, yadda yadda, but it's a nightly crap shoot.
I hate to go to bed then I hate to wake up in the am.
What's the answer?
gigi

gigirenee415 · 07-01-2009, 10:28 PM

Hi BB,
ladyknight told me u were cool.
so glad 2 see your post.
gigi :)

gigirenee415 · 07-01-2009, 10:32 PM

Oops, I was saying hi to BabyBoomer, not u Billyboy..
But, on further reflection, I am saying hi and high to everybody on WT.
I feel like we are all family here.
Billybob, are you the big guy or the little guy in the picture?
gigi :)

Billyboy88 · 07-01-2009, 11:35 PM

billybob lol

im on the right
thats my daughter on the left, she was one maybe younger
shes 3 now

talk about little to no sleep
she had colich (sp?) the whole first year!!

hello to u to g

***wilshire_healing*** · 07-13-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jayaregee

ambien is horrible. i used to take it and several times my little step daughter would tell me i came down stairs and had full on conversations with her in my sleep. and the regular ambien side effects like eating ice cream and doing things in the garage in a dead sleep, lol...... fun times. i kinda miss ambien, kinda. but my new main girl swept me off my feet. mary jane, thank you for making my nights so peaceful and much more wonderful!!!

No kidding eh?! My boyfriend took ambien, stayed awake and ended up screaming like a little girl at hallucinations and stuff in the room. He thought i was his saving Angel of grace and mercy and clung to me for the rest of the night while i sat up with him and helped him through the scary stuff. I was terrified and i wasn't even on anything. I medicated a little after he finally fell asleep cuz i was still jittery from having experienced that with him. The next morning he remembered everything and was very upset and embarrassed but thankful that i had been there. I don't credit ambien for finally putting him asleep. My voice did it as well as some incense and my second hand MMJ smoke did the trick. Poor guy. Glad you're not taking it anymore.

katzore · 07-21-2009, 06:24 AM

My mother would have crazy hallucinations/sleep walking from ambien. I hate that stuff. Doesn't even work for me but make me act like a happy drunk if ive taken enough. I really need to find a good sleep med.. =[ any suggestions?

BabyBoomer · 07-21-2009, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katzore

My mother would have crazy hallucinations/sleep walking from ambien. I hate that stuff. Doesn't even work for me but make me act like a happy drunk if ive taken enough. I really need to find a good sleep med.. =[ any suggestions?

Since different strains affects (or is it effects) each individual differently, my suggestions may not work for you.

The way I have been sleeping well for three years now is to eat an edible prior to bedtime.

It took a lot of experimenting to find just the right dose.

I wish you good luck in your search.

Sleep deprivation is a horrible thing to experience.

Healing hugs,

Boomer

(((hugs)))

tooweirdtolivetooraretodie · 07-21-2009, 09:48 AM

You said that you've suffered from insomnia your whole life ? How about during basic training ? It seems to me that's the only time in my life that I was able to sleep well. While I usually roll my eyes and ignore people that preach exercise as a cure all, in this case there might be something to it? Does the VA have any DI's back from combat injuries, getting physical rehab ? Maybe you just need one to follow you around doing their normal thing ? uuuggghhhh, how much would that suck, like some bad karma hell, stuck in basic for life just so you can get some sleep, but then always having to wake up too early to some angry f*cker yelling at you?

ScrewyLewy · 07-29-2009, 07:53 PM

That's funny the reference to boot camp. In 1970 they were pretty rough on young Marine recruits. Rack time was never more than 5 hours and you didn't sleep you passed out from exhaustion.

Miss M · 10-08-2009, 09:27 PM

I always hated Ambien.
Made me hallucinate cause it never knocked me out.

**Markit8** · 10-08-2009, 10:45 PM

Ambien is bad ju-ju.

I remember being woken up a short while after taking it by a call from my girlfriend at the time. Throughout the whole conversation, the digital clock from my DVR was flying around the room while it changed colors. Very reminiscent of psychedelics, but very uncomfortable. It was one of the strangest conversations I've ever had.

Of course, that was how the rest of my night went: I couldn't fall back to sleep and got stuck watching the clock fly around for hours.

EVLGYPC · 10-08-2009, 11:27 PM

NO JOKE. THIS STUFF IS STRAIGHT POISON! WATCHED MY MOTHER
IN ICU ALMOST SUFFOCATE WHILE IN A DREAMING STATE IN FRONT OF
A WHOLE ROOM OF PROFESSIONAL DOCTORS. WHILE PEOPLE SUFFER
SO DOES THE MOVEMENT OF MMJ BECAUSE OF JEALOUS PEOPLE AND
LIEING CITY OFFICIALS!

ScrewyLewy · 10-12-2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss M

I always hated Ambien.
Made me hallucinate cause it never knocked me out.

That's really scary In my quest to read stuff on sleep disorders I saw a paper presented at the annual sleep convention in 2008 they spent good money studying a Walrus's sleep apnea which is natural when they sleep under water and come up for air. The VA spends money that should go to veteran health care. Hope they had fun.

Absynthe · 10-12-2009, 09:55 PM

I must agree with the Exercise post. Ever since I've been in Physical Therapy, I've been sleeping quite well! And for those of us with Fibromyalgia, you know that deep sleep is almost impossible to acquire.

**GREENCROSSHOLISTIC** · 10-12-2009, 10:25 PM

Insomnia is very treatable, however, most patients MUST account for their activity throughout the WHOLE day, and that should include everything taken orally, all activities, and even the enviroment of the sleeping quarter's. Unfortunately, most patients discontinue the treatment protocol before it can be fully grasped by your "harddrive".
Daily exercise, proper nutrition, and even alternative medicine like Acupuncture & Spinal Manipulation may help, but every case is different.
Just remember that those powerful little pills that you may take for ANY condition, can be contaminated,mislabeled,or made incorrectly!!
That's why we have so many RECALLs and the long term side-effects aren't usually known until it's too late !!
Through trial & error, my Wife's insomnia is alleviated by .....OG Kush!!
GCH

07-01-2009, 02:37 PM	#31 (permalink)
OGHASHPLANT310 WT O.G. Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Venice Beach,CA Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES Posts: 303 Rep Power: 18385	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. Dont know,know I take XANAX BARS and REMERON30mg now STAY AWAY from HYPNOTICS/SEDATIVES if u can.Like SmokeusCannabis said once youre on BENZO's youre HOOKED pretty much 4 LIFE.Excercise and smoke MJ dont become another idiot because of DOWNERS like ME LOL!!! OGHASHPLANT310 says..WEST SIDE!!!

07-01-2009, 05:56 PM	#33 (permalink)
ScrewyLewy I'm Tired! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 3rd rock from the sun Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES Posts: 687 Rep Power: 68196	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. Thank you everyone adding top this Thread. Some one said don't take Benzo or Z Benzo you'll be hooked for life. LOL maybe some, not me the only thing I've gotten hooked on was cigs and been off them 5 years. Like I said I took Ambien for 9 years and didn't have any withdraws that were very apparent. On the road the 70's with KISS and BOC and the Police etc etc on coke and crank I would get off the road for a couple of weeks never missed the drugs. Just lucky I guess. The Tamazapam they are giving me now might as well be sugar pills. NEXT ScrewyLewy says.."Happy Smoke for Happy People" "Let's get small" btw DSFU

07-01-2009, 09:54 PM	#35 (permalink)
Billyboy88 WT Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sacto Co-Op: No Vendor: No Patient: Yes Posts: 53 Rep Power: 297	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. yes good luck, you certainly seem to know your stuff do you know if you actually ate anything in your sleep besides just cooking? that is crazy if so

07-01-2009, 10:19 PM	#36 (permalink)
gigirenee415 WT Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The OC, baby. Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 238 Rep Power: 73690	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. OMG! That sleep walking and eating thing happened to me years ago when I took Halcion. I woke up in the am to find that I had shelled, cleaned and eaten a whole Dungeness crab in the middle of the night. Now, that's messy! My docs balked at giving me Ambien and now I have to drink a potent Jack and Coke 3-4 nites a week cuz I have nothing else to help me visit with the Sandman. But I remember sleep walking at the age of 8 when I had no idea that there was better living through chemistry. Am trying all the holistic methods like deep breathing, daily exercise, yadda yadda, but it's a nightly crap shoot. I hate to go to bed then I hate to wake up in the am. What's the answer? gigi

07-01-2009, 10:28 PM	#37 (permalink)
gigirenee415 WT Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The OC, baby. Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 238 Rep Power: 73690	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. Hi BB, ladyknight told me u were cool. so glad 2 see your post. gigi :)

07-01-2009, 10:32 PM	#38 (permalink)
gigirenee415 WT Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: The OC, baby. Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 238 Rep Power: 73690	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. Oops, I was saying hi to BabyBoomer, not u Billyboy.. But, on further reflection, I am saying hi and high to everybody on WT. I feel like we are all family here. Billybob, are you the big guy or the little guy in the picture? gigi :)

07-01-2009, 11:35 PM	#39 (permalink)
Billyboy88 WT Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sacto Co-Op: No Vendor: No Patient: Yes Posts: 53 Rep Power: 297	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. billybob lol im on the right thats my daughter on the left, she was one maybe younger shes 3 now talk about little to no sleep she had colich (sp?) the whole first year!! hello to u to g

07-21-2009, 06:24 AM	#41 (permalink)
katzore wants a good time Join Date: Jun 2008 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 446 Rep Power: 15335	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. My mother would have crazy hallucinations/sleep walking from ambien. I hate that stuff. Doesn't even work for me but make me act like a happy drunk if ive taken enough. I really need to find a good sleep med.. =[ any suggestions?

07-21-2009, 09:48 AM	#43 (permalink)
tooweirdtolivetooraretodie WT Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 413 Rep Power: 63144	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. You said that you've suffered from insomnia your whole life ? How about during basic training ? It seems to me that's the only time in my life that I was able to sleep well. While I usually roll my eyes and ignore people that preach exercise as a cure all, in this case there might be something to it? Does the VA have any DI's back from combat injuries, getting physical rehab ? Maybe you just need one to follow you around doing their normal thing ? uuuggghhhh, how much would that suck, like some bad karma hell, stuck in basic for life just so you can get some sleep, but then always having to wake up too early to some angry f*cker yelling at you?

07-29-2009, 07:53 PM	#44 (permalink)
ScrewyLewy I'm Tired! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 3rd rock from the sun Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES Posts: 687 Rep Power: 68196	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. That's funny the reference to boot camp. In 1970 they were pretty rough on young Marine recruits. Rack time was never more than 5 hours and you didn't sleep you passed out from exhaustion. ScrewyLewy says.."Happy Smoke for Happy People" "Let's get small" btw DSFU

10-08-2009, 09:27 PM	#45 (permalink)
Miss M Hi, Im New! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ventura County Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES Posts: 39 Rep Power: 2063	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. I always hated Ambien. Made me hallucinate cause it never knocked me out.

10-08-2009, 10:45 PM	#46 (permalink)
Markit8 "Walk softly and carry a big stick." Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ENC Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 169 Rep Power: 11449	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. Ambien is bad ju-ju. I remember being woken up a short while after taking it by a call from my girlfriend at the time. Throughout the whole conversation, the digital clock from my DVR was flying around the room while it changed colors. Very reminiscent of psychedelics, but very uncomfortable. It was one of the strangest conversations I've ever had. Of course, that was how the rest of my night went: I couldn't fall back to sleep and got stuck watching the clock fly around for hours. Markit8 says.."I hate to swallow Ocean and it's all God's fault 'cause he could have put in Sugar but he went and put in salt." - LBB

10-08-2009, 11:27 PM	#47 (permalink)
EVLGYPC WT Regular Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SOUTH OF HEAVEN Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 425 Rep Power: 232445	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. NO JOKE. THIS STUFF IS STRAIGHT POISON! WATCHED MY MOTHER IN ICU ALMOST SUFFOCATE WHILE IN A DREAMING STATE IN FRONT OF A WHOLE ROOM OF PROFESSIONAL DOCTORS. WHILE PEOPLE SUFFER SO DOES THE MOVEMENT OF MMJ BECAUSE OF JEALOUS PEOPLE AND LIEING CITY OFFICIALS!

10-12-2009, 09:55 PM	#49 (permalink)
Absynthe WT Regular Join Date: Feb 2008 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: Yes Posts: 177 Rep Power: 539	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. I must agree with the Exercise post. Ever since I've been in Physical Therapy, I've been sleeping quite well! And for those of us with Fibromyalgia, you know that deep sleep is almost impossible to acquire.

10-12-2009, 10:25 PM	#50 (permalink)
GREENCROSSHOLISTIC "PUFF'S NOT PILLS !!" Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SoCal Co-Op: NO Vendor: YES Patient: YES Posts: 195 Rep Power: 5522	Re: Probably best to avoid Ambien. Insomnia is very treatable, however, most patients MUST account for their activity throughout the WHOLE day, and that should include everything taken orally, all activities, and even the enviroment of the sleeping quarter's. Unfortunately, most patients discontinue the treatment protocol before it can be fully grasped by your "harddrive". Daily exercise, proper nutrition, and even alternative medicine like Acupuncture & Spinal Manipulation may help, but every case is different. Just remember that those powerful little pills that you may take for ANY condition, can be contaminated,mislabeled,or made incorrectly!! That's why we have so many RECALLs and the long term side-effects aren't usually known until it's too late !! Through trial & error, my Wife's insomnia is alleviated by .....OG Kush!! GCH GREENCROSSHOLISTIC says..DO NOT TRUST THE "PILL MAKERS" of AMERICA !!!! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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