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Old 07-14-2008, 01:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RV46fsmx6E

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That was funny! God bless!
 
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indeed indeed I second that
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He's got one hell of a good point!:slaugh:
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Old 07-14-2008, 03:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeAxSqYs4fk


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Old 07-14-2008, 08:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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anyone ever seen Zeigeist Movie?
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No,but i heard of it.any videos on it?

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Old 07-15-2008, 12:53 AM   #8 (permalink)
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ya on google or yahoo video i believe.

or you can download the torrent here:

http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Zeitgeis...3527be5504e9c2
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Old 07-15-2008, 01:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I think i found it.......http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/



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Old 07-15-2008, 10:11 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Religion Is Bullsh!t

This is a topic near and dear to my heart. I believe God exists, but we don't know any real facts of what God truly is. I believe that all religions are the results of attempts by respective groups of people over time to reach God, not the other way around. There is much love and wisdom built in to many religions, with an important social aspect, but unfortunately, many religions are exclusive, saying that other religions are the wrong path to follow. And then the fighting starts, and now it may lead to destruction of the world as we know it to support human life. So, I conclude, that we, as a world population, must figure out how to let go of our old world religions, and form new ones, that will help us and our children and children's children all learn to live as one world. That is my hope, though I realize how long the odds are that we will all figure this out, and make the needed changes, in time.
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I really need to enjoy---XXX Gods Gift--Much More!--- the few day I have Left!!


And All the Other Strains.....As Time, permits! :slaugh:

Life Is To SHORT!

With few exceptions, 30,000 days is the average human lifespan - 40,000 if you're lucky. However, two-thousand years ago average life expectancy was less than 20 years or about 7,000 days. It is difficult to imagine, but most of our ancestors kicked the bucket before our modern legal drinking age.
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http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

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Re: Religion Is Bullsh!t

The way i feel about christianity,muslims,catholics or any other religion that worship ghosts have skeletons in there closet.they try and make good of there insecurities or bads.Faith=belief that is not based on proof.+ i dont feel like a born from some rib labeled a sinner or dieing for for wine or 72 virgins.These faiths are for the weak minded/hearted...i feel like a human being @ peace with earth.everything on earth has some sort of the same dna in some way.be it iron,zinc,protiens.w/e...
Religions are killing earth.Weed need to sit down and really think in mind who has provided for you and our existence with food, fluids, and resources for shelter since the gate?i vote for Grandmother Earth!and give thanx to the Grandfather Sun for its radiant and sensible heat to us give life.

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I find that God seldom exists in religous ideology (or any ideologies). You cannot contain something in an idea that embodies spirituality, goodness, love, acceptance, openmindedness, joy, knowledge, wisdom, contentment, enlightened etc. The more you try to define it the more you restrict it's existence.

God Lives <-- :slaugh: (thats for you Jeffster)

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people are usually taught how to feel or believe in,(hate,love,anger,etc) when they are younger.if there was a god,hes not doing a good job.It needs to be fired.hes been failing @ his job for decades.and now earth is fighting back with earthquakes ,storms,etc.its like people of god v people of earth

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The more you try to define it the more you restrict it's existence.

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An enlightened perspective, my friend. Whatever concept we hold in our mind -- including of that what God is -- will keep us from learning and experiencing God (or It, if you prefer). And...God Lives. Peace.


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if there was a god,hes not doing a good job.It needs to be fired.hes been failing @ his job for decades.
I think you want to fire man, not God. It is man that destroys the earth.
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people are usually taught how to feel or believe in,(hate,love,anger,etc) when they are younger.if there was a god,hes not doing a good job.It needs to be fired.hes been failing @ his job for decades.and now earth is fighting back with earthquakes ,storms,etc.its like people of god v people of earth
I agree, right now god is definately in my doghouse. :slaugh:

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I find that God seldom exists in religious ideology (or any ideologies). You cannot contain something in an idea that embodies spirituality, goodness, love, acceptance, open mindedness, joy, knowledge, wisdom, contentment, enlightened etc. The more you try to define it the more you restrict it's existence.

God Lives <-- :slaugh: (thats for you Jeffster)
Thanks for the reference, Oakey! For better or worse, this is a matter that I deal with on a daily basis. For me, I've come to find some peace in accepting that God exists at a level way beyond our abilities to comprehend.

Let me give an example. I got into a discussion with a fellow who told me we now have definite proof that God didn't create life because scientists had successfully created life in test tube, and if I Googled it, I'd see he was right.

So I Googled and read, and what I learned was this. Yes, scientists had taken some base elements, added some light, and voila, I think it was a nucleus of a single cell life that was created. But to me, this was just more of the same old human condition where we use our science and technology to better understand the mechanics of how things work. Not how or why things came into being to create those reactions. That to me is the province of God, and I truly hope that when we pass on from this earth bound existence, then we get to know more. But until that time, I think we will just keep peeling back the layers of the mystery, and the only plausible cause of the center of mystery of life is God.

Same holds true for me for the creation of the universe, by the way. OK, we had a big bang from which all matter was exploded out into the nothingness that was there before. Interesting theory, and the best one I know of to explain the matter in space that is constantly expanding. But what touched off the big bang, and maybe more important, why? Any true scientist still has to wonder about that. And great ones like Einstein saw that as God's concern. Einstein was raised in the Jewish faith, but determined as a man that religions were all somewhat more like fairy tales. He also concluded that God having the Jews as the chosen people was likewise unlikely. But this did not stop him from realizing that only the concept of God gives us something to go on for the creation of the universe and life within that universe.

OK, I'll get down off my soap box now.

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what weed need to do is lose religion and come to reality with oursleves,kill racism and borders.one race,the human race.then work on our problems amongst the planet (hunger,shelter,and up to date technologies,disease,etc).wtf is this hadron collider going to do for the human race? but yea shit like that.

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humans can achieve peace with earth and one another.if humans can defeat humans,humans can defeat hate.$$$ has alot to do with our current situtations also.we dont need a ghostly god to tell us that on hemp paper.i believe marijuana can help us in that fight..:Peace,Green,& Happiness:.

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Old 09-02-2008, 01:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Re: Religion Is Bullsh!t

Polluted, I watched the videos which you posted, and I did laugh with George Carlin and Penn & Teller. I was wondering what you personally believed until you started speaking for yourself. I agree that religion is BS, but I do not think we use the word the same way.

To me, religion is all the human traditions and attitudes which separates people - it is cultural and not spiritual. Wars were and are fought over these traditions. Great evel has been done in the name of God, by men, and God get blaimed and discredited. Religion has nothing to do with my experience of God - I experience communication with God, and I feel His love for me and all humans. I believe we all have the build in ability to feel, hear, and speak to God. I see God as a loving consciousness. A great mystery, but loving and always here with me.

You said "what weed need to do is lose religion and come to reality with ourselves,kill racism and borders.one race,the human race.then work on our problems amongst the planet (hunger,shelter,and up to date technologies,disease,etc).wtf is this hadron collider going to do for the human race? but yea shit like that."

Why has this not happened yet? One thing common with people, is they do not get along nor do they cooperate in even important things. People are not rational. They are mostly emotional. So logic like yours just does not work. It takes supernatural help to fix some things that appear to be logically simple to do.

Your next post said this: "humans can achieve peace with earth and one another.if humans can defeat humans,humans can defeat hate.$$$ has alot to do with our current situations also.we dont need a ghostly god to tell us that on hemp paper.i believe marijuana can help us in that fight..:Peace,Green,& Happiness:. "

I dont follow your logic. When humans are defeated by another person, they usually feel anger and maybe hate at the conqueror. So how does defeating another person fight hate? If we are to learn to live in peace with everyone, do we not have to treat others with different experience and belief with respect and love? This thread would not be here if you respected others who believe and see things differently than you do. It is judgment followed by disdain.

You have spoken about what you do not respect or believe, do you have any beliefs yourself that you wish others would respect, even if they disagree. My experience with God has enabled me to live a fearless life. I am a happy person. I love others and do what I can to help them with real help. I know many phony people who act like they are something other than who and what they are. These are the hypocrites that even Jesus despised.

I am not trying to put you on the spot by responding as I have. I know you have experienced hypocrite "Christians" in your life experience. I surely have. I understand how seeing hypocrites can cause anger. But we should love even them. Love is what heals hate.

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The way i feel about christianity,muslims,catholics or any other religion that worship ghosts have skeletons in there closet.they try and make good of there insecurities or bads.Faith=belief that is not based on proof.+ i dont feel like a born from some rib labeled a sinner or dieing for for wine or 72 virgins.These faiths are for the weak minded/hearted...i feel like a human being @ peace with earth.everything on earth has some sort of the same dna in some way.be it iron,zinc,protiens.w/e...
Religions are killing earth.Weed need to sit down and really think in mind who has provided for you and our existence with food, fluids, and resources for shelter since the gate?i vote for Grandmother Earth!and give thanx to the Grandfather Sun for its radiant and sensible heat to us give life.
Now, I am really confused.

So, if one has faith in a deity they are, to quote directly "weak minded/hearted" yet you promote the earth and sun, objects as worthy of a replacement deity, yet that doesn't make you weak minded/hearted...

Not to be too hard on you polluted as I'm sure there are others who agree with your position, but if I was to say, hypothetically that anyone who believed that a planet and star were simply matter out in space and anyone who worshiped such was stupid I would rightfully be called prejudiced would I not?

If the example is too vague, how about this example then, again hypothetically All Muslims are terrorists... or All Democrats are commies, or all Republicans are Nazi's...

Does that not fit the dictionary defination of prejudice?

Those who have agreed can reply too...

I just want others to measure their words and understand how generalizations lead to prejudice.

Religion and race are the same... Metaphorically speaking and if you would not generalize about race, why religion?

Peace and luv

<eta> I did find George funny and enjoy his take on many topics, including religion, but being able to laugh at tongue in cheek satire is different than a generalization about groups of persons.

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Re: Religion Is Bullsh!t

what i meant by "If humans can defeat humans-humans can defeat hate".simple as that.i am not angered.more dissappointed in how things are going on around the planet.nukes in our backyards,nukes pointed@us,so called terrorists,global warming,cant even enjoy marijuana freely....maybe god can help us@lol.com

im not being hypocritical.just cuz i say we should give thanx for what the earth and sun has given us.sounds more like grateful to me.i dont go to sunday church to pray to earth or the moon,nor do i have some holiday where ppl use a tree for a month then toss it to the curb.i kno it sounds petty .+ i have not said you's are stupid for worshiping a ghost ,i just said religion is bullshit.
Im more of a "now" and "our "future" type guy who learned from experinces and history..There doesnt have to be an armageddon.

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All I know is God has helped me in many ways. He has continued to help every day. I give him thanks. All you have to do is ask. God bless the people in this thread.
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Each of us are "God" i guess you could say. But agreed. Religion is a big mindfuck

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