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Old 11-12-2008, 07:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A Godless Christmas Holiday Campaign?

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American Humanist Association - Group responsible for ad campaign

Group's new Christmas message: Be good, not godly

WASHINGTON (AP) -- You better watch out. There is a new combatant in the Christmas wars.

Ads proclaiming, "Why believe in a god? Just be good for goodness' sake," will appear on Washington buses starting next week and running through December.

The American Humanist Association unveiled the provocative $40,000 holiday ad campaign Tuesday.

In lifting lyrics from "Santa Claus is Coming to Town," the Washington-based group is wading into what has become a perennial debate over commercialism, religion in the public square and the meaning of Christmas.

"We are trying to reach our audience, and sometimes in order to reach an audience, everybody has to hear you," said Fred Edwords, spokesman for the humanist group.

"Our reason for doing it during the holidays is there are an awful lot of agnostics, atheists and other types of nontheists who feel a little alone during the holidays because of its association with traditional religion."

To that end, the ads and posters will include a link to a Web site that will seek to connect and organize like-minded thinkers in the D.C. area, Edwords said.

Edwords said the purpose isn't to argue that God doesn't exist or change minds about a deity, although "we are trying to plant a seed of rational thought and critical thinking and questioning in people's minds."

The group defines humanism as "a progressive philosophy of life that, without theism, affirms our responsibility to lead ethical lives of value to self and humanity."

Last month, the British Humanist Association caused a ruckus announcing a similar campaign on London buses with the message: "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life."

In Washington, the humanists' campaign comes as conservative Christian groups gear up their efforts to keep Christ in Christmas. In the past five years, groups such as the American Family Association and the Catholic League have criticized or threatened boycotts of retailers who use generic "holiday" greetings.

In mid-October, the American Family Association started selling buttons that say "It's OK to say Merry Christmas." The humanists' entry into the marketplace of ideas did not impress AFA president Tim Wildmon.

"It's a stupid ad," he said. "How do we define 'good' if we don't believe in God? God in his word, the Bible, tells us what's good and bad and right and wrong. If we are each ourselves defining what's good, it's going to be a crazy world."

Also on Tuesday, the Liberty Counsel, a conservative Christian legal group based in Orlando, Florida, launched its sixth annual "Friend or Foe Christmas Campaign." Liberty Counsel has intervened in disputes over nativity scenes and government bans on Christmas decorations, among other things.

"It's the ultimate grinch to say there is no God at a time when millions of people around the world celebrate the birth of Christ," said Mathew Staver, the group's chairman and dean of the Liberty University School of Law. "Certainly, they have the right to believe what they want, but this is insulting."

Best-selling books by authors such as Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens have fueled interest in "the new atheism" -- a more in-your-face argument against God's existence.

Yet few Americans describe themselves as atheist or agnostic; a Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life poll from earlier this year found 92 percent of Americans believe in God.

There was no debate at the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority over whether to take the ad. Spokeswoman Lisa Farbstein said the agency accepts ads that aren't obscene or pornographic.

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!!!..warning eugenics in motion..!!!
this brought to you by the british eugenics society, and those who practice it world wide. this and way more is what is in store for america. barack is just the "usher", it's not his fault, he just wants to be loved, and excepted for being a humanist muslim/christian north american union aristocrat.

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Huxley was a prominent member of the British Eugenics Society, and was Vice-President (1937-1944) and President (1959-1962). He thought eugenics was important for removing undesirable variants from the human gene pool; but at least after World War II he believed race was a meaningless concept in biology, and its application to humans was highly inconsistent. (yeah right!!!)


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OK so the tribes in AZ can use payoete for religus belifes I am a christian man I beleve in the teachings of the bible it tells me my lord and maker made all seed bering plants for me to sow and use where the heck did my religious right's go
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!!!..warning eugenics in motion..!!!
this brought to you by the british eugenics society, and those who practice it world wide. this and way more is what is in store for america. barack is just the "usher", it's not his fault, he just wants to be loved, and excepted for being a humanist muslim/christian north american union aristocrat.

julian huxley was a main player in this group :
Huxley was a prominent member of the British Eugenics Society, and was Vice-President (1937-1944) and President (1959-1962). He thought eugenics was important for removing undesirable variants from the human gene pool; but at least after World War II he believed race was a meaningless concept in biology, and its application to humans was highly inconsistent. (yeah right!!!)


A little closer to home is Margaret Sanger founder of the American Birth Control League. Sounds harmless enough eh? It's just that thanks to guys like Edward
Bernays who pushed the art of spin into the stratosphere in the early 1900's , people like Ms. Sanger- with liberal grants from John Rockefeller- would champion the idea of "birth control" as a human rights issue. That it is a right of the woman to control her body and choose to abort a baby because of her 'personal empowerment' and 'equality' to men. Some propaganda concerning forced rape is always tossed in for color.

So, eugenics, in name if not in substance, was heavily promoted as 'sheeple control ' since the early 1900's.

Sangers book, 'what every girl should know' was published in 1916 and then she did 'what every mother should know" in partnership with Lothrop Stoddard and C.C. Little, who reveal the true agenda of 'birth control' which lies in this belief...."Stoddard argued race and heredity were the guiding factors of history and civilization, and that the elimination or absorption of the "white" race by "colored" races would result in the destruction of Western civilization."

So Sanger, armed with Rockefeller money and using the PR spin of Bernays to promote a feminist empowerment, started selling eugenics to the people of America
in the guise of the concept of 'birth control' which to this day has only increased to the point where you can barely say this without some women becoming enraged at the mere thought...imagine.

Oh btw, Sanger changed the name of the American Birth Control League in 1942.
Now they operate under the name Planned Parenthood. Sound familiar?

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Kick God out of school, This Country wasn't founded on Christianity! Let any women abort her child, Dont teach Morals and abstinence..Accept Homosexuality as a Race not a choice.. Open the Borders, Let whomever in. Dont stay married get a divorce, take these pills drink this alcohol, Do anything and everything, But be yourself...
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The thing is people seem to have forgotten that the devil( Negetive energy) is out there like a lion seeking what he can devour.He figured it out, instead of making man hate each other to get them to turn from God ( Positive energy) all he had to do was make them wage war against the Mother Earth, give us some ideas to make us Morally lazy yet technologically advanced. They will fly to the moon and think they are God!! How can you not look down from the heavens and say look at me I am God!!
I have a relationship with my Father and Brother, I can go to them anytime..I don't force my beliefs on anyone, But share with all who want it. ( I am the shepherd and these are the sheep, Only those that are mine will listen)...So you know the truth will set you free, Those that would have you believe anything other then that, I would think you would question there hearts and intentions..

Fight for what you believe in and accept diversity to the point of bettering yourself and this Country, You do not have to accept what is being forced on you ( Homosexuality, Abortion). You infringe upon my rights by telling me I have to accept it and are a hypocrite for calling someone a racist or bigot for having their moral and religious beliefs..

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God is whatever makes you feel better, your god is yours and no matter what religion or shape that god takes , who cares.

Happy Holidays for all on WT.. and just incase your wondering .. also Merry Christmas when it comes.
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I don't have time right now to respond to this. But those who know me....
WATCH OUT!

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