[Jesus' Children]

Did Jesus use Marijuana?

Please Explain your reasoning.

Are there any you may have found and where?

All response's are much appreciated, for all to gain a better perspective of the Greatest Soul on Earth.


Blessing be with you and you!
:partysmile:

[*SWEETLEAF*]

My son, why couldn't you just pm me

[*SWEETLEAF*]

J/K... can you tell me what you found in the bible refering to cannabis, i'm curious

[Gmiser66]

There are a few references to marijuana in the old testament. It is referred to as Kaneh-Bosm which means frangrant cane I believe or frangrant herb. It was burned in ancient jewish temples im not sure if it was smoked. Jesus came from a group of people called the zoorastriens who used cannabis for many reasons and I think beleived it to have spiritual and healing powers. So yes Jesus was undoubtedly in contact with the plant throughout his life. And according to the old testament if he is in fact the chose one, he needed to be soaked in an oil which main ingredient was cannabis.

[redhawk]

The most common incense used in christian (Catholic), Islamic and Jewish tradition is frankincense. Of course, this was also one of the gifts the Magi brought as they followed their way to the new star. The Magi are believed to be from what is present day Iran.

Researchers at Johns Hopkins University have found that the part of the brain that controls emotion, including anxiety and depression, was "lit up" in lab mice administered a component of frankincense.

With frankincense proven to be a psychoactive agent, it is far more likely that Jesus was surrounded by it than marijuana.

[early mornin stoned pimp]

Originally Posted by Gmiser66

There are a few references to marijuana in the old testament. It is referred to as Kaneh-Bosm which means frangrant cane I believe or frangrant herb. It was burned in ancient jewish temples im not sure if it was smoked. Jesus came from a group of people called the zoorastriens who used cannabis for many reasons and I think beleived it to have spiritual and healing powers. So yes Jesus was undoubtedly in contact with the plant throughout his life. And according to the old testament if he is in fact the chose one, he needed to be soaked in an oil which main ingredient was cannabis.

As I understand it, people in BCE times often burned sacramental herbs and incense, but pipe smoking was not something that was done in the middle east area ("peace pipes" were used by natives in the american continents, though I'm not sure if they were aware of pipe smoking in BCE).
Most often in BCE, if the herbs or sacrament were burned specifically to be inhaled, then they would be placed on hot coals inside of a room or tent.

It's unlikely that Jesus Christ ever smoked cannabis out of a pipe, but if kaneh-bosm and cannabis are indeed references to the same plant, it is quite likely that he came into contact with it.

- early mornin' stoned pimp

Originally Posted by Gmiser66

Jesus came from a group of people called the zoorastriens

No, Jesus was a nice Jewish boy. His people did not believe in Ahura Mazda but rather Yahweh. Which is not to say Judaism didn't borrow from Zoroastrianism.

Aside from that, though, there's definitely a lot of agreement (Hebrew University included) that kanah-bos is likely cannabis -- there is also some disagreement -- and that Jesus may have used this in rituals and may account for the basis of some of his healing miracles.

[The Urban Spaceman]

Originally Posted by early mornin stoned pimp

As I understand it, people in BCE times often burned sacramental herbs and incense, but pipe smoking was not something that was done in the middle east area ("peace pipes" were used by natives in the american continents, though I'm not sure if they were aware of pipe smoking in BCE).

It's unlikely that Jesus Christ ever smoked cannabis out of a pipe, but if kaneh-bosm and cannabis are indeed references to the same plant, it is quite likely that he came into contact with it.

- early mornin' stoned pimp

yes indeed... it was hemp that was used in the area but it was used as a material rather than a drug or medicine. it was used for all the things we could be using hemp for now.

any smoking done in the middle east was hashish and that was much later.

now i once read a book called The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross... that one's an interesting theory!

peace and blessings on your spiritual quest,
spacey

[flylightly]

I think my avatar explains it all my friends

also there are tons of books and info out there about Cannabis being the tree of life, and books about Jesus smoking.

Also many older religions including the Jewish faith used hallucinogenics such as shrooms and others as part of rituals.

Was Jesus a Stoner? is the mischievous title of an article about the use of cannabis in ancient Judaism in next month's High Times, a pro-cannabis magazine. Its author, Chris Bennett, likes to shock. He is the host of Burning Shiva, a show on Canada's Pot-TV, and an advocate for the medical use and decriminalisation of marijuana.

Bennett first looked at the use of drugs in religion two years ago in his book Sex, Drugs, Violence, and the Bible. He postulates that Jesus's ministry was fuelled by mind-altering substances, that he may have used cannabis-based oils to heal eye and skin diseases and that his very name - Christ - derives from being anointed with cannabis-enriched oil.

His politics and television career might make it tempting to dismiss him but what Bennett says makes perfect sense. Over the centuries drugs have been used by virtually all religions. Why not Christianity?

In ancient times cannabis was widely cultivated throughout the Middle East. It grows like a weed and provides nourishing seed, which is also a good source of fibre used to make rope.

People certainly knew of its pleasurable effects; it would have been impossible to harvest it without becoming ecstatic as the drug would be absorbed through the skin. And as long ago as 1935 a Slovakian linguist identified the plant known as "fragrant cane" in the English Bible as flowering cannabis, a link since accepted by some Jewish authorities.

Ancient people were fascinated by herbs and their healing powers and knew much more about them than we do; at least about mixing herbs to release their potency.

Ancient wines were always fortified, like the "strong wine" of the Old Testament, with herbal additives: opium, datura, belladonna, mandrake and henbane. Common incenses, such as myrrh, ambergris and frankincense are psychotropic; the easy availability and long tradition of cannabis use would have seen it included in the mixtures. Modern medicine has looked into using cannabis as a pain reliever and in treating multiple sclerosis. It may well be that ancient people knew, or believed, that cannabis had healing power.

Much of their knowledge, passed down through an oral tradition, has been lost and to some extent it is the modern prejudice against drugs that has stopped us looking for it. Revulsion against drugs and the hippie culture even led to the term "entheogen" being coined to describe a psychotropic substance used in religious rituals.

Entheogen comes from the Greek entheos (meaning "god-inspired within") and the word is now commonly employed in English and European languages to discuss sacramental foods used by shamans (mystic or visionary priests) to achieve spiritual ecstasy.

So what of the early Christians? At the time they were evolving, they had to compete with other religions of the Roman empire. The strongest of those was Mithraism, imported from Persia, which exists today as Zoroastrianism.

Its sacrament, Haoma, was virtually identical to what we know of soma, in Brahmanism. Worshipped as a god, soma was a strange plant without leaves or roots that needed little light and induced religious ecstasy. It was most likely amanita muscaria: a magic mushroom. In ancient Rome sharing the Haoma cemented the bond of brotherhood of emperors, bureaucrats and soldiers. Pagan Greek celebrations at the sanctuary of Eleusis, meanwhile, included a visionary experience for a crowd of 1,000 people, from drinking a potion made from a fungus that grows on wheat and produces an effect similar to LSD.

So, did Jesus use cannabis? I think so. The word Christ does mean "the anointed one" and Bennett contends that Christ was anointed with chrism, a cannabis-based oil, that caused his spiritual visions. The ancient recipe for this oil, recorded in Exodus, included over 9lb of flowering cannabis tops (known as kaneh-bosem in Hebrew), extracted into a hin (about 11� pints) of olive oil, with a variety of other herbs and spices. The mixture was used in anointing and fumigations that, significantly, allowed the priests and prophets to see and speak with Yahweh.

Residues of cannabis, moreover, have been detected in vessels from Judea and Egypt in a context indicating its medicinal, as well as visionary, use. Jesus is described by the apostle Mark as casting out demons and healing by the use of this holy chrism. Earlier, from the time of Moses until the later prophet Samuel, holy anointing oil was used by the shamanic Levite priesthood to receive the "revelations of the Lord". The chosen ones were drenched in this potent cannabis oil.

Early Christian documents found in Eygpt, thought to be a more accurate record than the New Testament, portray Jesus as an ecstatic rebel sage who preached enlightenment through rituals involving magical plants. Indeed, Bennett goes so far as to say that Jesus was probably not born the messiah but acquired the title when he was anointed with cannabis oil by John the Baptist. The baptism in the Jordan was probably to wash away the oil after it had done its work. The early Christians fought hard for followers in the ancient world, recognising the similarity of their own "foreign" god and his eucharistic meal to the Greek gods. Various sects and even the elite in what would eventually become the Roman Catholic church probably used the full range of available entheogens for baptism, ordination and the eucharistic meal.

What we now call the host might have been more than just bread. There are indications that early Christians shared magic mushrooms - and the spiritual visions and ecstasies they occasioned - as their eucharistic meal. A 4th-century mosaic discovered at a basilica in Aquileia in northern Italy depicts baskets of mushrooms. Why? This wasn't a restaurant. Could the "red mushrooms" have been the ritual meal?

Eating bread and sharing wine together was, and remains, at the heart of the Christian ritual. We'll never know exactly what Jesus and his disciples consumed at the Last Supper, but as they believed they were drinking the blood of Christ we must accept it was - if not actually hallucinatory - at least fortified by God.

[clinton]

First, I must say I am a believer, a licensed minister, and former missionary for 7 years. In my walk I meet fellow patients who are Christians who are confused about marijuana. Marijuana has a long history as a key medical plant in all human cultures. It has been a medicine for over 10,000 years if you believe the carbon 14 analysis of prehistoric camp fires. The Jews were aware of cannabis for sure.

MJ has only been lied about and called dangerous since the 1930's when MJ was listed as a schedule 1 drug. Unfortunately many Christian leaders believe the BS about MJ being dangerous. This puts Christians who discovers the health benefits of MJ, at odds with their church's leadership. I know a patient who when he told his pastor about his MMJ use - was not allowed to sing in the choir. Yet another who was given 4 weeks to live was supported by his church. I was blessed to be able to obtain over a pound of buds, a couple pounds of canabutter, and hash to this man. Now 12 months later the pancreatic cancer is gone leaving only scar tissue. His church knew and stood by him through the whole ordeal. Praise God - He lives!!!!

I counsel confused believers frequently. Use of MJ does not constitute drunkenness. Wine is the only listed intoxicant I know of in the Bible. So whether Jesus used MJ in any form is not the key question. Would Jesus give cannabis to the ill? I do not see why not. He gave the people wine.

clinton

[Jesus' Children]

"There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known." -Jesus,
(Matthew 10:26)

"If you know the truth, the truth will make you free."
(John 8:32)

It would be impossible to determine whether or not Jesus did in fact use the cannabis plant, although there is evidence to suggest that oil extracts were used in healing rituals.


Something to consider...

[madmountain]

That childish logic made me laugh.

[flylightly]

Okay here is my far out stoner theory but this is something I think from a theological stand point makes sense. Picture this. The Garden of Eden. Adam and Eve are told by Hashem, or G*D for you that aren't jews haha, He specifically tells them that they can eat of every single tree that is in this garden - with the exception of one tree. This one tree was called the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil."

Now if you know about studying the books of the bible in more then just a little bit you understand that some terms translated in the bible have been found to mean differant things. Such as Jesus walking on water didn't literally walk on water, back in the time of Jesus walking on water meant to be walking on the beaches of the water. Now depending upon which version of the bible you read you may read they ate of the tree or that they bore the fruits of the tree of knowledge.

My theory is that the tree of knowledge was in fact none other then Marijuana. Remember when they "ate" from the tree of knowledge that they knew the differance between right and wrong, they had stronger feelings and emotions. The bible says there eyes were opened.

I believe a lot of us had a feeling like that the first time we smoked we felt a sense of a new openness. Just my thought. Don't bash me for it.

[Jesus' Children]

1 Timothy 4:1-5

1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in the later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons,

2 by means of hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron,

3 men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods, which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth.

4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected, if it is received with gratitude;

5 for it is sanctified by means of the word of God and prayer.

Something to ponder...:slaugh:


:partysmile:

[its4:21sryimL8]

"Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things." (Genesis 9:3).

done and done... smoke it yo...

[KushMeister]

I can't say whether Jesus did, or did not smoke cannabis, but I have heard through legit sources,
that when Moses said to Pharaoh "Let My People Go", it wasn't actually because the Jews wanted freedom from their Egyptian Oppressors, but instead because the weed in Egypt was schwag, and they wanted to relocate to Afghanistan or Pakistan where the buds were 'dank'!

[Artimus J]

Originally Posted by Jesus' Children

Did Jesus use Marijuana?

Do you believe that this was a medicine used by his predecessors (ancestors)?

Please Explain your reasoning.

I have found truthful passages refering to a plant (cannabis).

Are there any you may have found and where?

All response's are much appreciated, for all to gain a better perspective of the Greatest Soul on Earth.


Blessing be with you and you!
:partysmile:

He never smoked anything JESUS WAS A MYTH and never exsisted
There is no historical proff and you can not find any.
Notice that Krisna, Budda and Horis all said the same things 1000's of years before Christ, all were born of a virgin and all died on december 25th
Try takeing a comparitive Religion class and learn the truth...IT'S ALL A BIG LIE BOYS AND GIRLS, there is no hell and heaven is in your mind.
Sorry to burst your bubble.

[Artimus J]

Originally Posted by Gmiser66

There are a few references to marijuana in the old testament. It is referred to as Kaneh-Bosm which means frangrant cane I believe or frangrant herb. It was burned in ancient jewish temples im not sure if it was smoked. Jesus came from a group of people called the zoorastriens who used cannabis for many reasons and I think beleived it to have spiritual and healing powers. So yes Jesus was undoubtedly in contact with the plant throughout his life. And according to the old testament if he is in fact the chose one, he needed to be soaked in an oil which main ingredient was cannabis.

Thers also lots of references about MURDER, RAPE, MASSACRE, KILLING CHILDREND, HUMAN SACRIFICE.....they had no time to smoke weed people were to busy killing for GOD....

[flylightly]

Originally Posted by Artimus J

He never smoked anything JESUS WAS A MYTH and never exsisted
There is no historical proff and you can not find any.
Notice that Krisna, Budda and Horis all said the same things 1000's of years before Christ, all were born of a virgin and all died on december 25th
Try takeing a comparitive Religion class and learn the truth...IT'S ALL A BIG LIE BOYS AND GIRLS, there is no hell and heaven is in your mind.
Sorry to burst your bubble.

Actually from somebody who has studied multiple religious doctrines there is plenty of historical proof that Jesus existed. No one doubts that Jesus was around. No one doubts that Jesus was in fact crucified, no one doubts he was seen by the people as a prophet. He did exist, whether or not he was the actual son of Hashem is the only legitimate doubt. You seem to be one of the "believe in more then what the church tells you" and trust me thats fine but an ignorant man wont be taught and will not learn a wise man learns to teach himself.

There are plenty of good books about the actual known facts about Jesus. He actually wasn't the only one making those claims during this time. There in fact were accounts of numerous people of that time claiming to be the son of G*D but the only one who was a direct threat was Jesus of Nazareth a Jew who wanted to destroy the Jewish church as it was known and save the people from the romans. Thats why he was well known and why the punishment was spread, they didn't want an uprising and they wanted the people to know they'd die if they tried.

Its not his existence you should question, if you have any, just the stories told.

[J-5]

Look at the portraits of Jesus. He looks like he smokes to me. Long hair, beard, robe & sandles.

[Artimus J]

Originally Posted by flylightly

Actually from somebody who has studied multiple religious doctrines there is plenty of historical proof that Jesus existed. No one doubts that Jesus was around. No one doubts that Jesus was in fact crucified, no one doubts he was seen by the people as a prophet. He did exist, whether or not he was the actual son of Hashem is the only legitimate doubt. You seem to be one of the "believe in more then what the church tells you" and trust me thats fine but an ignorant man wont be taught and will not learn a wise man learns to teach himself.

There are plenty of good books about the actual known facts about Jesus. He actually wasn't the only one making those claims during this time. There in fact were accounts of numerous people of that time claiming to be the son of G*D but the only one who was a direct threat was Jesus of Nazareth a Jew who wanted to destroy the Jewish church as it was known and save the people from the romans. Thats why he was well known and why the punishment was spread, they didn't want an uprising and they wanted the people to know they'd die if they tried.

Its not his existence you should question, if you have any, just the stories told.

BULL THERE IS NO HISTORICAL PROFF YOU HAVE NONE NOTHING
SHOW ME ONE PIECE OF HISTORICAL DATA...on the other hand there are volumes that proff it is all a lie, all a myth, a fairy tale to control the stupid
masses who belived the world was flat...ever bit of what you speak comes from the bible not histoical fact sir!
WAKE UP

[Artimus J]

Originally Posted by flylightly

Actually from somebody who has studied multiple religious doctrines there is plenty of historical proof that Jesus existed. No one doubts that Jesus was around. No one doubts that Jesus was in fact crucified, no one doubts he was seen by the people as a prophet. He did exist, whether or not he was the actual son of Hashem is the only legitimate doubt. You seem to be one of the "believe in more then what the church tells you" and trust me thats fine but an ignorant man wont be taught and will not learn a wise man learns to teach himself.

There are plenty of good books about the actual known facts about Jesus. He actually wasn't the only one making those claims during this time. There in fact were accounts of numerous people of that time claiming to be the son of G*D but the only one who was a direct threat was Jesus of Nazareth a Jew who wanted to destroy the Jewish church as it was known and save the people from the romans. Thats why he was well known and why the punishment was spread, they didn't want an uprising and they wanted the people to know they'd die if they tried.

Its not his existence you should question, if you have any, just the stories told.

Another bag of christian blind bull....WAKE UP AND GET A GRIP

[Likestheherb]

I know that God (what ever name you use) gave us this wonderful herb to help us ease our pain and suffering.
I dont feel its an issue if its in the bible or not or If Jesus used cannabis.
I have been told Its Kosher
If you believe in God Or a higher power. You know that we were given all we need. Thanks to the powers that be

[KushMeister]

Originally Posted by Artimus J

He never smoked anything JESUS WAS A MYTH and never exsisted
There is no historical proff and you can not find any.
Notice that Krisna, Budda and Horis all said the same things 1000's of years before Christ, all were born of a virgin and all died on december 25th
Try takeing a comparitive Religion class and learn the truth...IT'S ALL A BIG LIE BOYS AND GIRLS, there is no hell and heaven is in your mind.
Sorry to burst your bubble.

Buzzkill! :slaugh:


jk

[Jesus' Children]

Did Jesus use Marijuana?

That is the question;
not if there was an existence of a Jesus of Nazareth!

Ponder that if you will....