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| The Duke Of Pico Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Adjacent to everywhere Co-Op: Yes Vendor: No Patient: Yes
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Rep Power: 20363 | Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! http://www.asaaction.org/april26.html In the many years I have been part of this community, I've tried to do whatever I can, to help as many people as I can. All I've ever asked, is that when called upon, the patients unite against our common foes. Usually, all that meant was come to protest and show our numbers. Understandably, a weekday protest is hard to gather the troops, but it has happened. I remember a time of hundreds of us standing together, fighting for our medicine. But, over the past year and a half, I've watched the number of patients grow larger, new WT members triple daily, and less and less people started coming to the protests. Almost to the point where it's the same group that we started with back in the day!! Why? All I ever hear are excuses, excuses, excuses... Sure many are legitimate, but mostly are just lazy. They are the first to scream a club is not compassionate if they don't give good enough breaks on prices, etc... Oh, thats not you? You do what you can, but can't always be involved? Well, now it's time for you to poop or get off the pot! It's a Saturday, it's early and you have over a month notice. A MONTH! So write it in your book, tattoo it on your forehead... Whatever... JUST BE THERE!!!!! Prove to me that you aren't just someone taking advantage of the club situation! http://www.asaaction.org/april26.html This is your chance to join the community in numbers, and show people we are not just a small bunch of 'stoners'. We need this. This is more important than anything you can do that day. It's my best friends birthday and, I will be bringing him there. It's my gift to him! Ok, part of a gift... But a Saturday protest is a gift. Take advantage of it!! Bring your friends, your family, whoever! If you have a rec, you must show up!! This will only be the impact we want it to be, if we go into this together!! Please come! No excuses!!! Print out the flyers and give them to everyone you know as well! APRIL 26, 2008!!! http://www.asaaction.org/april26.html |
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| New, Im High! Join Date: Mar 2008 Co-Op: No Vendor: No Patient: Yes
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Rep Power: 13 | Re: Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! Quote:
A problem i see is that this seems to be limited to weedtracker and the asa which seems to mainly use weedtracker. theres a big word out there that is not hearing about this because they arent part of wt. maybe your getting all this site has to offer and its time to get others involved. wt has alotta rules that keep many away, try to figure out how to reach those who arent on this site. I never see anything about protests on any of the other many sites. if they dont know they cant show..... It was nice to se the protest on 3 different news's last night... | |
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| "Let the monsters see you smile" Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In a magical canyon Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 23188 | Re: Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! Well I will be @ the saterday protest for sure but not to prove anything to fellow patients. It's so much more then even showing support to one another, this is our fight for basic human rights. |
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| Thanks so much for this info!!! Hope all turns out well :) |
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| OG WT USER.....AROUND SINCE 04 AND STILL TRACKIN! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Palmdale Co-Op: NO Vendor: No Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 18958 | Re: Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! i AGREE.... I WAS IN SUPPORT OF THE PROTEST YESTER(I HAVE PIX TO PROVE) WITH 4-6 NEWS VANS WAITIN AT THE COURT HOUSE FOR PATIENTS WHICH NEVER SHOWED UP...... I GLAD YESTERED WE HAD A TURN OUT...... BUT IVE BEEN PROTESTING FOR A WHILE AND WE HAVE ALWAYS WALKED FROM THE FED BUILDING-THE COURT HOUSE AND PROTEST ON THE LAWNS AND SUCH............MEDIA WAS THERE WAITN EVEN WHEN I LEFT(WHICH WAS 3 HRS) SO PLS UNDERSTAND I WAS THERE BUT IN THE LOCATION SPECIFIED BUT I GUESS CHANGED AT THE LAST MIN.... I WAS IN SURRORT AND REPPRESENTATION OF THE SFV PATIENTS THE COMPASSION KING AND HIS CREW AND EVERYONE WHOM COULDNT MAKE IT......JUST KINDA FELT WILL POST PIX OF A LONELY LAWN........COURT HOUSE AND MEDIA WILL PASS OUT FLYERS AS MUCH AS I CAN |
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| WT Regular Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oakland, CA Co-Op: Non Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 370 | Re: Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! Quote:
If you don't see flyers at the dispensary you visit - print some out and bring them some! If you know of other sites where this should be posted, post the info! If you have a friend who might want to attend, give them a call, arrange carpools, do what you can to make it easier... Think of these events as OUR events, not as THEIR events, and we'll make these events larger and stronger together! | |
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the people who showed up Tuesday are the people who deserve your energy. Tuesday was my first MMJ protests but not my first protests ever. There were patients at Tuesday's protests that had never been to protests in their life. Your energy will empower them to continue their efforts and to encourage others to do the same. One thing that stood out to me Tuesday was that Virgil came around, towards the end of the protests, and thanked all remaining protesters for coming out and showing support. That meant a lot to me. just as what I did meant a lot to him. People respond positively to appreciation and gratitude and kindness. people respond negatively to criticism and judgment and disrespect. I'd like to see our focus channeled to creative ways to getting people out to the protests instead of wasting our energy on worrying about what we don't want. Let's brainstorm ideas of why people don't show up and then brainstorm ideas on how to help people overcome the obstacles which keep them from showing up. Some of these obstacles are physical in nature and some are emotional. please remember we are a community of patients, each one of us has some sort of limiting circumstance. Let's make it as easy as possible to get as many people as possible out to this protests. People who haven't been politically active previously may not know what to expect from the protests. They might fear for their pain and discomfort both physically and may be socially. I was in a high level of pain on Tuesday's protests, it kept me from holding a sign or doing much more than leaning against a concrete barrier that separated the sidewalk from federal property. But it didn't stop me from going there and it didn't stop me from using what voice I do have. As far as socially, it had alittle effect on me. I promoted the protests on face the in myspace, to the point face book contacted me for spamming. I have told my roommates about it and a few friends but I feel like I have to be careful about my MMJ patient's status, particularly on campus where I have federal student loans which could be jeopardize with a drug conviction. and with my workman compensation case, where I fear my status as that in MJ patient could jeopardize medical and financial benefits due to me. yesterday, my chiropractor asked me where I went to get such as strange sunburn. I answered her,a protest.I'm glad she didn't ask me what protest. I think it's hard to balance the parts of my life that are related to being anMMJ patient and the parts of your life that could be negatively impacted because of that status. it's personal I honestly believe that if we want to make an impact we have to make this movement personal. let's face it, we are all a part of this for personal reasons. You've got your reason, I've got mine. Each is wholly unique because it belongs to a unique individual. I believe generalizations, stereotypes and blanketed accusations are more damaging to our community than anything else especially when we are the ones perpetuating the circulation of those things by saying them to each other. I think the way we are going to get people to the protests is with personal strategies. I also believe,it's the only way we are going to win our cause by disproving generalizations, stereotypes and seizing blanketed accusations. we will win this one patient at a time. Each patient has the responsibility make a difference in this movement by telling their individual stories to those who can potentially join us in making a difference. Each patient should tell their story, starting with the facts. the way were going to get people to our protests is with personal stories and invitations. I believe flyers should be a tool for promotion not a dominant method of promotion. A flyer, stapled to a wall or stacked on the counter, is less personal than a flyer hand it to someone after a personal discussion about a individual patient's story And an invitation to join the patient April 26 at the Westwood Federal Building. the way we are going to get people to support our cause is with personal stories and experience. I believe personal stories should be a tool for this movement instead of the stereotypes. Just as a patient can tell another person their story to invite others to the protests, the patient can tell their story at the protests to other patient and the news media. the news media has the ability to spread stereotypes or personal stories. We're not going to win this campaign without reaching people on a personal level. I'd like to see our concerted efforts come together before the protests to plan strategies for making the biggest impact. I have some ideas on how we can get patients to the protests. maybe we can have some prizes for the group that travels the farthest to make it to the protests or the group who caravans in the most supporters. or the most creative sign or any number of things that get individuals involved. People will be more interested in going if it's presented as an opportunity to meet other patients Like a meet and greet.we could have gift bags donated from the co-op's and vendors. They should be things for people to do. Assign responsibilities for certain aspects of the event and people will sign now and volunteer and show up. if we put the same positive energy and planning into April 26 as we do 420 we will have a successful event. We have an opportunity with 420 being merely a week earlier to build support and enthusiasm for this protest. But if we are going to do that, we need to start planning now. That means an organizational meeting as soon as possible to involve as many patients and co-op/vendors as possible. let's do this together, let's make it big, let's keep it positive, and let's have fun while we're doing it. I need a break. Thank you for listening. I look forward to more positive input Last edited by Herbalicious; 03-27-2008 at 10:09 AM.. | |
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| The Duke Of Pico Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Adjacent to everywhere Co-Op: Yes Vendor: No Patient: Yes
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Rep Power: 20363 | Re: Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! Quote:
I have been involved in this community for almost a decade. I started with a positive attitude as well. It was easier to keep it, because everybody had same goals. But, recently this community has taken a dramatic change for the worse. That breaks my heart. I would so like to be able to make positive comments and encourage people to choose to do what they want. But, it doesn't work that way anymore. I've watched that work more and more against us over the past year. So, I'm sorry to say, now I am angry and dissapointed. Which is sad, because I am a big believer in the positive attitude. At this point, I am getting burnt out on encouraging people to go to protests and be more active. Only to have all of them lie to my face saying they will do something, then they don't. The last few protest have been great, and upsetting due to the smaller turnouts. Finally we have a plan to accomadate all the people who can't make weekday protests. I am sorry to say, that if the turnout is small again for this one... Well, I don't know how much more I can do for the community. At one point you like to feel like your actions do something. But I am getting more and more disillusioned everyday. It breaks my heart, and unfortunately, that is where my anger comes from... So if I have to yell, or guilt people into going. I will. The people who look towards this community positively, I don't have to worry about. They will already be there. It's the abusers of the system that I am speaking to. If being mad and accusatory is the only way to get accross to some of them, then that is what I have to do. As I said, this post is for the all people who just 'talk'. Poop or get off the pot!! I hope to meet you on the 26th Herbalious. You are the community I wish to align myself with... | |
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| Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Here, there and everywhere Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! By the way - April 26th is also the Los Angeles Times Book Festival at UCLA, not very far from the protest site - so if you're going to the book festival, get up a bit early and protest. I plan to be there. |
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| WT Advanced Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oakland Co-Op: yes Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 62781 | Re: Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! CJK, dont be discouraged, what you do is apreciated. Dont worry about guilting people to go, there should BE more guilt felt by some. Keep channeling the anger toward the right places and thanks for making a diff. |
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| The intuition of free will gives us the truth. Join Date: Sep 2007 Co-Op: No Vendor: No Patient: Yes
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Rep Power: 62165 | Re: Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! CJK and I are both experiencing the same thing because we have been at this awhile now. Herbalious,your positive attitude is truely refreshing and we appreciate it more then you know. I am feeling the same way![/COLOR] Exactly! Quote:
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I am so glad that the Festival of books is happening that weekend because I was starting to worry about parking. Admission to the Festival of Books is free. Parking is $8. the closest UCLA parking structure to the federal building is Lot 36 located at the corner of veteran and will share. if you afford eight dollars to park, I would suggest you go to any parking/info booth listed on this map. the closest UCLA parking structure to the federal building is located on Westwood at strathmore. let them know you wanna parking Lot 36. Tell them you don't mind walking to the Festival of books from there. they don't have to know you're going to protest. remember it's the state and federal crime to possess marijuana, even if it's medical, on school grounds. the LA Times will be there and so will KTLA 5 CW, KCRW, KPFK 190kabc talk radio, KRLA 670. if you are listeners to any of these programs contact them now. Let them know about the protests. Tell them your story. Let your voice be heard. | |
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KTLA 5 CW News Fax Numbers: Assignment Desk: 323-460-5333 Entertainment Desk: 323-460-5404 Morning News: 323-460-5404 Prime News: 323-460-5333 The Spotlight with Leila Feinstein Fill out online form spotlighting members of this community making a difference. Email: If you are interested in having us report on a particular subject, or have a special story to share, please take a moment to email the correct department, including a way to contact you. Due to the high volume of e-mail we receive, we regret that we are unable to respond to each one individually. We thank you for your comments and assure you that all e-mails are being read. Please be aware that anything submitted to this site becomes the sole and exclusive property of KTLA-TV, and you release KTLA-TV from any and all claims relating to your submission. KTLA-TV does not pay any fee for news tips. Send the News Department a Story Idea • If you have a story idea, please click here. Contact KCRW Click the above link for online form^^^^ 1900 Pico Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90405 Main Office 310-450-5183 Membership 310-314-4635 KPFK 90.7 FM Los Angeles 98.7 FM Santa Barbara 3729 Cahuenga Blvd. West North Hollywood, CA 91604 Main phone: (818) 985-2711 Fax: (818) 763-7526 Studio phone (for call-in shows): (818) 985-5735 790 KABC click for online form We appreciate you taking the time to contact us. We always enjoy hearing comments from our listeners. Unfortunately, due to the large amounts of e-mail that we receive, we may not be able to respond to each and every message. Feel free to call us during business hours, Monday - Friday, 9AM-5PM at 310 840 4900. Our mailing address is: 3321 S. La Cienega Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90016. KRLA is conservative Contact Us: KRLA 870AM Phone: 1-800-499-5552 Email Address: info@krla870.com I hope this helps individuals in our community take action. Oooops....I almost forgot the LA times: Click above for online form^^^ Letters to the Editor (Main) letters@latimes.comGuidelines for Letters Last edited by Herbalicious; 03-29-2008 at 08:51 AM.. Reason: I almost forgot the LA Times | |
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| Budtender Deluxe Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In the Saucer of course! Co-Op: YES Vendor: NO Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! i am SOOOO there this time! yeah i am one of those who had an "excuse" for not coming to the last one - i had to work to support my family. but on a saturday i truly have nothing better to do than head on out to the protest! i felt awful at not being able to attend the last one. but ya have to eat. this might be the biggest obstacle to the weekday protests. at least it is for me. that whole keeping a roof over my head kinda thing. one of you said a saturday protest is a gift... well it is a perfect time for ME to start giving back. see you all there! much love spacey |
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While I may not represent, shall we say, the subset of WT to whom you are speaking, I still find this tack pretty offensive. | |
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I think everyone who knows about you understands you're situation. And comments like this original post are directed at no one in particular but get sprayed at everyone. I think when we make huge generalizations or comments about a group of people who just happen to be the nameless, faceless "other" we cause more harm than good. If we want people to show up we have to keep in mind the tactics that really work for getting people out to rallies. Name calling, insults, and negativity aren't great motivates. Kindness, compliments, and positivity are. In your specific situation, I'm wondering if there is a way for you to attend even if you're having a bad CFS day. Like is there are wheel chair that you could sit in and be pushed in? Or is that just too much too? I'm not really familiar with your condition. I'd love to see you out there. I think if we can brainstorm why people don't want to attend and can come up with ways of address their concerns we'll get more people out there. If it's fun and an opportunity to meet other patients (like a meet n greet). I think by focusing on what we want (people to attend, media to report, etc) we'll be more likely to get it as opposed to focusing on what we do NOT want (low attendance, no media coverage, etc). | |
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| Is Slightly Toasted. Join Date: Sep 2007 Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 987 | Re: Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! Quote:
I feel your frustration Brother... I was one of the patients that couldn't attend the March 25th rally due to a deadline that had to be met and my guys where a day behind. The rally was on my mind the entire time...honestly it bugged the shit outta me, that I wasn't able to lend my voice to the cause when I was needed. As the sole bread winner in my household and a father of 5.I sometimes dont get the luxury of following my passions. With that said...I'll be there on April 26th, with my green shirt on. Camster- | |
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| The Duke Of Pico Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Adjacent to everywhere Co-Op: Yes Vendor: No Patient: Yes
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Rep Power: 20363 | Re: Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! I have not gone into specifics on who is lazy and who is legitimate. But, I will say this, for every WT'er that has a legit excuse, there are five who don't. If you read my original post, I was calling out the people who do nothing. The post doesn't apply to anybody who actually cares about the community and does whatever possible to help out. However small... But, apparently I hit a nerve with some of you... I am not some random WT'er. I have been fighting for your rights and your medicine for awhile now. You think there are days when I don't want to go stand in the sun with a sign? That I'm not in extreme pain while I'm out there? I do it, because I know how important this is. I know that there are people who are in much worse shape than me, who need me out there for them. I fight for the people who can't help themselves. BUT, I can't do it forever. I need to see an effort being made by the people I fight for as well. Which, as of right now, I see hardly any effort being made by the average patient. I am angry and saddened by the community as of late. Of course, the people who are involved know who they are, and know I am not referring to them! Finally, an event has been planned that can incorporate all involved with the community. So I am putting all my eggs in one basket. If I have to guilt or cajole people to go, to help fight for your rights, then thats what I'm going to do. I tried the kindness front, I tried the information front, I tried showing pictures, and I even tried bribery at my club! Each time was less and less people. So, I'm sorry if I have lost confidence in trying to appeal to certain natures of our patients. I will leave that to others. Personally, if I have to physically drag people to the protest, I will. If I have to guilt them to the point of tears, I will. You know why? Simply because this is starting to seem like my last ditch effort. If this event isn't what it should be, then I think I'm done. I can't help people who don't want to be helped anymore. In summation, If you can go, great! I will see you there. If not, I really don't want to hear the why's or can'ts of why you are not there. If it's important to you, you will be there. |
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| Re: Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! Hey girl, Quote:
As far as how I'm doing that day, it's a dice roll any given day. At least on Saturday my husband can drive me there and then pick me up, which makes a huge difference (not having to look for parking and walk a long distance, etc.). I'm not quite wheelchair-ready. ;-) I have had very kind offers from other patients of rides to these rallies and in the future I may do that too. As far as what I have to do afterwards, that's the bigger concern. With my CFS, one strenuous activity (which a rally is for me even if all I do is stand there) can mean several days of illness afterward. And I love this community, I love MMJ, I've been calling reps and writing letters and all that stuff, but my teaching career comes first. Great for those who don't have to make those choices but I have a strenuous job -- I teach in sign language which is not my first language and makes the gig even more physically and mentally demanding than teaching already is -- and I will ditch any MMJ (or other) event if I feel that attending would mean I have to cancel class the next day. (There is literally no one who can sub for me so if I'm not there, there is no class.) So that was the problem on Tuesday, that I had already had an unusually strenuous day on Monday (social and pleasant, but it took a toll) and I knew if I went to the rally I wouldn't be able to teach on Wednesday. Saturday is sooo much easier because I can be in bed the rest of the day and also the next day and not have to worry about work until Monday. Basically it comes down to choices. And my first priorities are family and work; anything that will negatively affect those has to wait. | |
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| The Duke Of Pico Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Adjacent to everywhere Co-Op: Yes Vendor: No Patient: Yes
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Rep Power: 20363 | Is Saturday April 26, 2008 CANCELLED??? Has this been cancelled? |
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| "Let the monsters see you smile" Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In a magical canyon Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 23188 | Re: Saturday April 26, 2008 Protest!! No Excuses!! Please post thread to notify peolple not to come I know a lot of people planning on attending I will let my peeps know. |
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