[Lou Weed]

I am pleased to announce that on May 4th at 10:00 AM, we will be gathering at Van Nuys City Hall to express just how we feel about the LAPD's recent actions against collectives!

We urge patients to carpool if possible and we also ask that any patients under our care who wish to speak their minds do so. Let's use this particular forum wisely and responsibly by telling the LAPD that attrocities upon collectives will not be tolerated.

Van Nuys City Hall
14410 Sylvan St
Van Nuys, CA 91401

We cannot wait to speak our minds in the presence of our friends, patients, fellow advocates and other like-minded individuals who will not bow to any gestures that are akin to that of a police state.

Thank you all. Please spread the word, we need as many bodies as we can get for this one. Let's show them we mean what we say, that our slogans are more than just pretty phrases.

Love from everybody at The Karma Collective

[Lazlo_Toth]

Is this a, show up at 10:am - meeting at 2pm like last time?

Or will the business at hand take place on or near 10:am....
Thanks, i'll be there.

[Lou Weed]

Being that this is not a meeting we are conducting, I really can't say much of anything concerning minutes or schedules - however, being that it is city council, I doubt that this will be overly long or terribly unpredictable, at least per our agenda as patients.

[BabyBoomer]

It hurts my heart that I am not able to attend. I would love to be there in person but only can be in spirit -
good thoughts and prayers to all of you.
And a huge thank you for those that can attend. Please do so, ALL that can.

Thank you and Cyber Hugs,

BabyBoomer


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Originally Posted by Lazlo_Toth

Is this a, show up at 10:am - meeting at 2pm like last time?

Or will the business at hand take place on or near 10:am....
Thanks, i'll be there.

Typically the public comments will be second on the agenda after all the pomp & circumstance crap. We attended the City Council Meeting Yesterday D/T and got some attention so it is important to attend these meetings at least til these folks get a clue.

I hope that there is a good turn out Friday especially Valley Collective Operators that have so much at stake. Good luck I will not be able to make this one so I would like to tell you this is when you really need to stand up and be heard.

Solidarity is not a matter of sentiment but a fact, cold and impassive
as the granite foundations of a skyscraper. If the basic elements,
identity of interest, clarity of vision, honesty of intent, and
oneness of purpose, or any of these is lacking, all sentimental pleas
for solidarity, and all other efforts to achieve it will be barren of
results.



Eugene V. Debs:

[Goldenstatecollective]

"It is the mission of the Los Angeles Police Department to safeguard the lives and property of the people we serve, to reduce the incidence and fear of crime, and to enhance public safety while working with the diverse communities to improve their quality of life. Our mandate is to do so with honor and integrity, while at all times conducting ourselves with the highest ethical standards to maintain public confidence. "

That is the mission statement of the LAPD.

The LAPD is living outside there stated mission by disrespecting state law at this level.

I'ts amazing to think that on the LAPD'S website they state that there Narcotics should be doing as follows
Responsibilites of the Narcotics Division




The LAPD Narcotics Division is respondible for the following:

- Investigating and interdicting the importation of illegal drugs in the City of Los Angeles

- Investigating and arresting drug dealers and buyers who engage in illegal drug transactions

- Assisting prosecuting agencies in preparing successful narcotics cases for court

- Preparing narcotics-related civil and criminal forfeiture cases involving illegal profits derived from drug transactions

- Collecting, archiving and disseminating narcotics-related intelligence for successful narcotics investigations and prosecution

- Acting as a legislative analyst for proposed laws involving illegal narcotics in the City of Los Angeles, the State of California or, before the United States Congress


How do people living under state law apply to there definitons? Shouldnt they be focusing on the black market created by installing fear in the sick and dying?

The LAPD's website also states:

The LAPD’s Narcotics Division is the largest drug enforcement entity in Southern California. It is responsible for enforcing local, state and federal narcotics laws throughout the City of Los Angeles. Working in partnership, the police and the community can make a difference and help improve the quality of life citywide.

bullshit.
11. All State officials must uphold The Compassionate Use Act of 1996 regardless of whether or not it is said to conflict with federal law [Constitution of the State of California, Amendment III, Section 3.5(c).] Since no judicial challenge has been filed seeking to invalidate the law on the basis of a conflict with federal laws or regulations, or for any other reason, ALL California officials are legally obligated to uphold the Compassionate Use Act of 1996 [Constitution of the State of California, Article 3, Section 3.5(a, b, c)].

welcome to 1984.

pz!

adolfo

[Lou Weed]

Several supporters of The Karma Collective, including employees, patients, like-minded advocates and friends sat in on the meeting with us today and spoke out against Captain James Miller's apparent distaste for medicated edibles.

The response from the community continues to blow our minds. What was said today rang true for several members of the Council, judging by an alarmingly supportive response that rattled our group a little.

There's a lot to to do yet, but I have got to lend a huge hand to our Resident Cowboy. Thanks for the tears and smiles. Your words and presence reminds us why we do this, despite the difficulties certain local authorities are placing upon us at this time.

Thank you all for everything.
I am very proud to be a patient and employee at Karma.

Write your reps. Write Stephanie Landa. Write a poem. Do whatever it takes to keep this fire kindled.

[HC Remedies]

Originally Posted by Lou Weed

Several supporters of The Karma Collective, including employees, patients, like-minded advocates and friends sat in on the meeting with us today and spoke out against Captain James Miller's apparent distaste for medicated edibles.

The response from the community continues to blow our minds. What was said today rang true for several members of the Council, judging by an alarmingly supportive response that rattled our group a little.

There's a lot to to do yet, but I have got to lend a huge hand to our Resident Cowboy. Thanks for the tears and smiles. Your words and presence reminds us why we do this, despite the difficulties certain local authorities are placing upon us at this time.

Thank you all for everything.
I am very proud to be a patient and employee at Karma.

Write your reps. Write Stephanie Landa. Write a poem. Do whatever it takes to keep this fire kindled.

Who might be the Resident Cowboy ???

[brian112460]

Originally Posted by brian112460

You must add some content to your post. Posting only smiley faces with no content is considered spam. You have received a warning.

[Lazlo_Toth]

Originally Posted by HC Remedies

Who might be the Resident Cowboy ???

Ha ha...
You know!

Why would you repeat that kinda thing after a warning was just issued to someone? Just to annoy? Infraction issued.

[brian112460]

ok so iwas not in the mood to type a responce see the post just above my infraction ok i spamed wt i was a little upset but still responded dont like it toss me off the site as fr the pd comment

yes im a public deffender standing almost falling in front of the council and ch35 admitting to all i am a paitient

get off your high horse and i will go back to the ranch and get on mine

so i got a warning most likley auto generated im watching the meeting now

just to see how bad i look thanks brian

I, for one, found your comments to the council very moving. If you think the atmosphere in the Council chamber was dramatic, watch the Ch35 video of it. Wow.

'bug

[Lou Weed]

It was really shocking when Councilman Rosendahl unleashed his opinion.

Everybody is somebody's something. This is what I want our local and federal forces to remember. We all have names, extenuating circumstances and the desire for a better quality of life. We are daughters, sons, mothers, husbands, wives, grandparents, lovers, friends and advocates. We are going to use every resource we have to remind our authorities of this, as respectfully as we can.


Please respect us as citizens and the aforementioned relations and associations by not interrupting our right to obtain and provide safe access.

Those who merely post smileys as a post are no longer welcome in this thread or on WT and haven't been for awhile now. It's spam, plain and simple. If you want your posts to be taken seriously, HAVE SOME CONTENT. Smileys aren't content.

And before you bitch about it, it's IN THE RULES, which you agreed to when you signed onto this message board.

This is a VERY serious topic, let's show the topic and those who are fighting for YOUR continued medicinal access some respect.

If you're not going to show respect, kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP.

I was kind?


BTW - Does anyone have a link to the meeting video? I'd like t see that.

[Lou Weed]

Lady Ding Dong provided laughs at my house this morning. It's the small things sometimes.

For those of you who haven't seen the video, let me run you through some of the comments. We each have different methods that turn into an amazingly cohesive unit. I wish I could turn this into a grindhouse poster.

Speakers of note, of the community and not of the community:

Lady Ding Dong - Dislikes the noisy church near her home. She breaks into a chant of Ding dong, ding dong, ding dong. I am laughing and trying to regain my composure because ....I am next!

Lou Weed - I stress that we are more than compliant and willing to work with our city, provided our city works with us rather than against us. I namecheck a man whose actions I do not like very much. My mission while speaking is to set an even tone for everybody else to extrapolate upon. My dress looks hemp-y. I am evoking this for a reason, thank you very much.

Patrick Himself - They cut the wrong equipment when he got heated. Of course he got heated! Rightfully so. The man is a hurricane and if you tell him to shut up, you've just gone and done it. He will not shut up, he will remind you that we are individuals with conditions all over the spectrum who voted for safe access and as such, should receive it. They may take away your lights but may they never take away your mic.

Dege' Coutee - Intense, stupifying passion, as always. She told of threats and intimidation placed upon herself and the Karma staff. She told them a whole lot and she told them well. I cannot paraphrase this woman. You shouldn't either. Let's go with 'protect us from our protectors' if we must, until everybody can see the video.

Lady A. - An incredibly close Karma family member. Her life flipped 180 degrees when she became a patient and advocate. Not only was she able to fulfill her obligations to herself and her family, she regained a sense of self and accomplishment. These guys are going to take that away from her? She doesn't think so.

Mister A. - One of my dearest friends and fellow co-workers at Karma. He stressed how taxing these events have been on us as human beings and providers of safe access. From a completely unjustified investigation to watching somebody we love and believe in being arrested and identified as a criminal, Mister A. calmly explained what is essentially our mission at Karma and why your tax dollars are wasted on raids into legal collectives. His conviction was apparent.

Mister B. - A patient of ours who brought the house down by speaking of his condition before he came to medical cannabis as a means of improving his quality of life. His pleas moved me to tears. His story is a common one among us patients, but this doesn't make it any less extraordinary. We got to help him save his own life.

Councilman Rosendahl saw fit to speak up by calling for an investigation against these antiquated drug policies enforced by a certain administration in a certain era we refer to as the 1980's. Our jaws drop. We speak with him and are given his card before we depart the building.

There's much more but I've got stuff to do and several other posters would be happy to elaborate or already have :D I'll add more soon.

[brian112460]

Originally Posted by WildWill

Those who merely post smileys as a post are no longer welcome in this thread or on WT and haven't been for awhile now. It's spam, plain and simple. If you want your posts to be taken seriously, HAVE SOME CONTENT. Smileys aren't content.

And before you bitch about it, it's IN THE RULES, which you agreed to when you signed onto this message board.

This is a VERY serious topic, let's show the topic and those who are fighting for YOUR continued medicinal access some respect.

If you're not going to show respect, kindly SHUT THE FUCK UP.

this is not bitching

i felt all that was needed was that picture when asked who was the resident cowboy im sorryyou feel that way as i will do as you ask i will shut up

i will stay away from protest and keep my mouth shut iwill sit at home and let you go and stand right up front for all to see i have no agenda but my own and that is to live as long and healthy as possible

i will not go to city council meetings and talk about a very personal issue my health and mortality and have them use my first and last name

i will not contact council member wesson who came up to me after i talked to say i did a good job of speaking i will shut up as it will seem disrecpectfull and it will not help the movment

i will not go to anymore coops after massive raids and sit with my med records and wait for dea to try and harrass me and the collective for days in a row you can do it

you ask to show a little respect to those that stand up for our rights
show a little restraint in the language used as it will not help when others look at this and other posts

do not single out indviduals to enforce the rules as i have seen others just below my infraction and my publc warning post a smilley big whoppe

try to look at the bigger picture was there intent to offend no was it a blatent violation possible but that was not the intent it was a simple way to respond to a question
and then i see a refence to pd as to the cowboy now that is malicious intent
but i see no mods out there saying anything (i do not care what others think of me i was not put on this planet to please everyone)
now i will go quietly into the night
i shall sit and watch as others go out of there way go to jail have there freedoms taken away property siezed vandlized and religous symbols desicrated


not!!!!!!!!!!! i will not give in i will not give up

if this is how and where this site is going i will remove myself

ps i call for wild will to be given a warning as to the use of his language would you tell a patient to shut the #$%^ up on tv in front of the city council at a coop i hope not but you just did in front of this comunity but i am not taking it too personal just shows the wters where you come from
i for one forgive you it is up to others that have read this post of yours to forgive you not to the content but for the language
as always i have more to say on this
if a mod or anyone has a problem or comment i can be reached in person or by phone my place or yours my local coop has my numbers and everyone knows my local coop

peace and be well one and all
brian
the cowboy
the spammer

[labrat]

Originally Posted by brian112460

this is not bitching

i felt all that was needed was that picture when asked who was the resident cowboy im sorryyou feel that way as i will do as you ask i will shut up

i will stay away from protest and keep my mouth shut iwill sit at home and let you go and stand right up front for all to see i have no agenda but my own and that is to live as long and healthy as possible

i will not go to city council meetings and talk about a very personal issue my health and mortality and have them use my first and last name

i will not contact council member wesson who came up to me after i talked to say i did a good job of speaking i will shut up as it will seem disrecpectfull and it will not help the movment

i will not go to anymore coops after massive raids and sit with my med records and wait for dea to try and harrass me and the collective for days in a row you can do it

you ask to show a little respect to those that stand up for our rights
show a little restraint in the language used as it will not help when others look at this and other posts

do not single out indviduals to enforce the rules as i have seen others just below my infraction and my publc warning post a smilley big whoppe

try to look at the bigger picture was there intent to offend no was it a blatent violation possible but that was not the intent it was a simple way to respond to a question
and then i see a refence to pd as to the cowboy now that is malicious intent
but i see no mods out there saying anything (i do not care what others think of me i was not put on this planet to please everyone)
now i will go quietly into the night
i shall sit and watch as others go out of there way go to jail have there freedoms taken away property siezed vandlized and religous symbols desicrated


not!!!!!!!!!!! i will not give in i will not give up

if this is how and where this site is going i will remove myself

ps i call for wild will to be given a warning as to the use of his language would you tell a patient to shut the #$%^ up on tv in front of the city council at a coop i hope not but you just did in front of this comunity but i am not taking it too personal just shows the wters where you come from
i for one forgive you it is up to others that have read this post of yours to forgive you not to the content but for the language
as always i have more to say on this
if a mod or anyone has a problem or comment i can be reached in person or by phone my place or yours my local coop has my numbers and everyone knows my local coop

peace and be well one and all
brian
the cowboy
the spammer

with all due respect brian your making a big deal out of nothing!!! your well respected around here!!! hell i get spanked all the time!!! but its more proper to P,M, will !!! i find him VERY understanding!!! peace bro (cowboy) lab rat

Originally Posted by brian112460

this is not bitching

Really? Reads like bitching to me.

i felt all that was needed was that picture when asked who was the resident cowboy im sorryyou feel that way as i will do as you ask i will shut up

You know, why is it when ONE person gets an infraction they think they're being singled out? In the last 72 hours, the staff of WT have given out no less than 11 infractions of the same variety to 11 different users (I checked). What makes you so special that the same thing that 10 other people got infracted for should be ignored by us?

you ask to show a little respect to those that stand up for our rights
show a little restraint in the language used as it will not help when others look at this and other posts

Yeah? You try enforcing the rules in a place where the users tend to think that because there are unjust laws in real life there should be NO laws on the message board. Again ELEVEN infractions for the same thing were handed out in the last 3 days. NOT only that, but it's in the rules that you can't just post smileys. Maybe we should just get rid of all the smileys all together. That would solve the problems

do not single out indviduals to enforce the rules as i have seen others just below my infraction and my publc warning post a smilley big whoppe

NO, you haven't. They have had CONTENT to their post, or gotten it deleted and warned as well. We try VERY hard to enforce the rules fairly and evenly to EVERYONE. In the non-serious threads in the "What's Going On" forums or the other non MMJ forums, it's not as big a deal, but in the SERIOUS threads/forums, it pisses me and the rest of the mods off. We're not here to read posts that are just smileys, so stop doing it.

try to look at the bigger picture was there intent to offend no was it a blatent violation possible but that was not the intent it was a simple way to respond to a question

Bigger picture? How the hell am I supposed to figure out the bigger picture from a post that's just a smiley? Heck, I didn't even figure out that they were talking about YOU cowboy. All I saw was a user posting a single smiley in a post. Which is against the rules. YOU are the one who has made this a big deal.

and then i see a refence to pd as to the cowboy now that is malicious intent
but i see no mods out there saying anything (i do not care what others think of me i was not put on this planet to please everyone)

We agree on that at least. I don't care what others think about me either. As to who's a cowboy, I have no clue what you're talking about, and I don't care either. This thread is about a city council meeting, NOT YOU. Of course, now that you MADE it about you, the thread is pointless.

now i will go quietly into the night
i shall sit and watch as others go out of there way go to jail have there freedoms taken away property siezed vandlized and religous symbols desicrated

Wow, nice attitude. Real stand up guy aren't you?

not!!!!!!!!!!! i will not give in i will not give up

OH, you're joking? What a card you are.

if this is how and where this site is going i will remove myself

As always membership here is voluntary. If you don't like the way WT is going, then feel free to remove yourself and delete your account. That's your perogative, always has been. Of course I dare you to find a better site with more information and more freedom. Betcha can't. Betcha can't start one of your own. Prove me wrong.

ps i call for wild will to be given a warning as to the use of his language would you tell a patient to shut the #$%^ up on tv in front of the city council at a coop i hope not but you just did in front of this comunity but i am not taking it too personal just shows the wters where you come from

No, I wouldn't. But then again, this isn't a city council meeting. This is an open forum, albeit one with a private membership, and in order to be a member here, you have to follow the EASY rules. Which you haven't done in this circumstance. As for me being given a warning, you DO know that your statement there could be construed as a violation of TOS as well. I think you should re-read the rules, because you obviously haven't read them (at least in a while). I'll be nice though, I won't give you MORE infraction points.

i for one forgive you it is up to others that have read this post of yours to forgive you not to the content but for the language
as always i have more to say on this

I neither seek for nor ask for your forgiveness, nothing I did was out of the TOS. NOWHERE in the rules will you find that swearing is against TOS. We're all adults here. I get angry when people take important topics off track and when I get angry, I tend to use swears. Sorry if I impugned your sense of propriety, but then again, we wouldn't be here if you hadn't posted a smiley as content.

if a mod or anyone has a problem or comment i can be reached in person or by phone my place or yours my local coop has my numbers and everyone knows my local coop

WHY IS IT that everyone wants to talk on the phone? This is a message board. I'm not going to waste my precious time calling you on the phone to discuss WHY you feel that it's improper for ME to do MY job enforcing the rules. If you don't like the rules here, you're welcome to leave.

peace and be well one and all
brian
the cowboy
the spammer

Those are your labels, not mine. To me you're a member. While we love our members, we're not going to pander to trouble-makers, which is also what I feel you are at this point. I'll let bygones be bygones. I don't expect a response in public to this, if you have something to say to me, you can PM me. This topic needs to get back on track.

[Lazlo_Toth]

Alright, let me get this straight...

brian112460 is the cowboy Lou Weed spoke of ?

i think there were only 3 men who spoke, i figured the wild 1 was the cowboy.

Guess i was wrong...

[Lazlo_Toth]

Ok not wild..
The person who was scolded by the city council and had the mic turned off...

Tough crowd.;>