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gopers · 10-09-2009, 06:58 AM

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I thought today was April 1st

Analysis: He won, but for what? - Yahoo! News

Analysis: He won, but for what?

ASHINGTON – The awarding of the Nobel Peace Price to President Barack Obama landed with a shock on darkened, still-asleep Washington. He won! For what?

For one of America's youngest presidents, in office less than nine months — and only for 12 days before the Nobel nomination deadline last February — it was an enormous honor.

The prize seems to be more for Obama's promise than for his performance. Work on the president's ambitious agenda, both at home and abroad, is barely underway, much less finished. He has no standout moment of victory that would seem to warrant a verdict as sweeping as that issued by the Nobel committee.

And what about peace? Obama is running two wars in the Muslim world — in Iraq and Afghanistan — and can't get a climate change bill through his own Congress.

His scorecard for the year is largely an "incomplete," if he's being graded.

He banned torture and other extreme interrogation techniques for terrorists. But he also promised to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, a source of much distaste for the U.S. around the world, a difficult task that now seems headed to miss his own January 2010 deadline.

He said he would end the Iraq war. But he has been slow to bring the troops home and the real end of the U.S. military presence there won't come until at least 2012, and that's only if both the U.S. and Iraq stick to their current agreement about American troop withdrawals.

He has pushed for new efforts to make peace between the Israelis and Palestinians. But he's received little cooperation from the two sides.

He said he wants a nuclear-free world. But it's one thing to telegraph the desire, in a speech in Prague in April, and quite another to unite other nations and U.S. lawmakers behind the web of treaties and agreements needed to make that reality.

He has said that battling climate change is a priority. But the U.S. seems likely to head into crucial international negotiations set for Copenhagen in December with legislation still stalled in Congress.

And what about Obama's global prestige? It seemed to take a big hit last week when he jetted across the Atlantic to lobby for Chicago to get the 2016 Olympics — and was rejected with a last-place finish.

Perhaps for the Nobel committee, merely altering the tone out of Washington toward the rest of the world is enough. Obama got much attention for his speech from Cairo reaching out a U.S. hand to the world's Muslims. His remarks at the U.N. General Assembly last month set down new markers for the way the U.S. works with the world.

But still ... ?

Obama aides seemed as surprised at the news as everyone else, not even aware he had been nominated along with a record 204 others. Awoken by press secretary Robert Gibbs about an hour after the vote was announced, the White House says the president responded that he was humbled to be only the third sitting U.S. president to win.

The award could be as much about issuing a slap at Obama's predecessor, former President George W. Bush, as about lauding Obama. Bush was reviled by the world for his cowboy diplomacy, Iraq war and snubbing of European priorities like global warming. Remember that the Nobel prize has a long history of being awarded more for the committee's aspirations than for others' accomplishments — for Mideast peace or a better South Africa, for instance.

In those cases, the prize is awarded to encourage those who receive it to see the effort through, sometimes at critical moments.

Obama likely understands that his challenges are too steep to resolve — much less honor — after just a few months. "It's not going to be easy," the president often says of the tasks ahead for the United States and the world.

The Nobel committee, it seems, had the audacity to hope that he'll eventually produce a record worthy of its prize.

___

EDITOR'S NOTE: Jennifer Loven is the AP's chief White House corespondent.

So, this piece is not from a "right wing paper". I think from now on, I will just ignore the whole "Nobel" prize receiptients after this. Oh, and please don't call me a hater. That is sooooooooooo old. What the Nobel committee did here was a joke. I would understand if the POTUS Barry would get us out of Iraq, end the shit in Afghanistan with the Taliban ending their need to keep women hidden behind clothing, uneducated, beaten, circumcised,and I could go on. Also that they would not push jihad anymore. And that the Afghan people could live freely. The Israelis and the palestinians live hand and hand with no more bus and cafe bombings and no more military retaliations. Then I would not think the "peace prize" award would be so laughable.

I look at it this way. You get paid for saying your going to do something before you do it. That is just as bad as professional athletes getting mega money before they even do a damn thing. Sort of like a lot of other jobs in this world. Just as bad as corporate officers receiving big exit bonuses for leaving a company that is not doing well.

kennabis · 10-09-2009, 07:12 AM

hahahaha heheh he!!! thanks for the good laugh. i was just about to get on the road, and i needed a good goofah!

**Mother Chucker** · 10-09-2009, 07:40 AM

Everyones jealous because they didn't win one.

scrib · 10-09-2009, 07:48 AM

They got the wrong number. They meant to call me.

labud · 10-09-2009, 07:49 AM

Because he's not Bush....

CarlSagan · 10-09-2009, 08:27 AM

The Nobel Peace Prize always goes to a crazy liberal! Like Henry Kissinger...what a crazy "pie-in-the-ski" liberal!!!!

The Nobel Peace Prize has been biased toward crazy american liberals since it gave one to Teddy Roosevelt.

LemonHerb · 10-09-2009, 08:35 AM

So now in America we are unhappy that our president wins the Nobel Peace Prize? Are you kidding me?

The news media here may not report on it very much, depending on what channel you watch, but Obama is pretty popular over seas and his speeches carry a lot of weight just like they do here. Here's an article from the BBC.

BBC NEWS | Europe | Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize

Quote:

"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the Norwegian committee said in a statement.

"His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population."

So it has a lot to do with his philosophy, as a lot of Nobel Prizes do, but also his willingness to project that philosophy to the rest of the world.

mooniegoogoo · 10-09-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by labud

Because he's not Bush....

bingo

CONWAYTWITTY · 10-09-2009, 09:27 AM

i aint by any means a obama hater but this makes no sense to me.. i cant wait to watch fox news tonight for a good laugh though

LemonHerb · 10-09-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CONWAYTWITTY

i aint by any means a obama hater but this makes no sense to me.. i cant wait to watch fox news tonight for a good laugh though

I would think they will first start with talking about how unhappy they are that their president got a Nobel Peace Prize, because what American would want that? Next, after a couple days when that doesn't get the reaction they want they will instead try to discredit the Nobel Peace Prize entirely by saying stuff like Arafat got one. I mean after Gore got one you figure the Fox news crowd doesn't put a whole lot of stock in the Nobel Prize, it ranks up there with intelligence on their things we are afraid of chart.

Hopefully they go full retard on this one and claim he was not eligible for the Peace Prize because he can't produce a planet earth birth certificate.

BrattonBasher · 10-09-2009, 09:34 AM

If you are the leader of a country fighting two overseas wars who tortures prisoners you should not win a peace prize, even if you inherit them. A poor choice that will give Hannity and Limpdick hours of filler time.

wallawalla · 10-09-2009, 09:42 AM

This will make for some great comedy!

superface13 · 10-09-2009, 09:46 AM

When I first heard about this this morning, I thought, "Really?? This makes no sense....He hasn't had time to make any real change." But then I thought that anyone who was able to beat McCain and give Bush the finger deserves it

LemonHerb · 10-09-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

If you are the leader of a country fighting two overseas wars who tortures prisoners you should not win a peace prize, even if you inherit them. A poor choice that will give Hannity and Limpdick hours of filler time.

You have to realize that Nobel Prizes aren't always for someone's entire body of work. Think of it like an Oscar, Stallone got one for writing Rocky but that doesn't mean Throw Mama from the Train is also award worthy. Here is a list of all the people who have won List of Nobel Peace Prize laureates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It doesn't say for everyone that it's for their life's work, but for a specific thing in a specific area. Clearly Mother Teresa didn't get her Peace Prize for denying care to dieing people so they could suffer and in that suffering know Jesus more, she got it for starting missions that do that. Gore didn't get it for being a part of an administration that ordered several military strikes, neither did Kissinger, Wilson, Roosevelt, etc..

EarthMama · 10-09-2009, 09:56 AM

I'm rather happy for him...There...I said it...Now...I'm outta here!

CarlSagan · 10-09-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by superface13

When I first heard about this this morning, I thought, "Really?? This makes no sense....He hasn't had time to make any real change." But then I thought that anyone who was able to beat McCain and give Bush the finger deserves it

AMEN!!!

I mean, isn't becoming the first black president an accomplishment in line with promoting peace and democracy? Imagine how messed up our country would be right now if McCain were president (even Glenn Beck agrees with this).

Considering all of the horror that McCain would have unleashed to the world, as the senile follow-up to Bush (who can't even use email), defeating McCain alone is worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize.

Watching Fox News will be funny. Imagine trying to maintain these two contradictory thoughts in your head at the same time: 1) America is the greatest country in the world, 2) it is an embarrassment for the President of the United States to win the Nobel Peace Prize.

HA!!!!!

Republicans are way out-of-touch and very unpatriotic if they see this as a national embarrassment.

EarthMama · 10-09-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlSagan

AMEN!!!

I mean, isn't becoming the first black president an accomplishment in line with promoting peace and democracy? Imagine how messed up our country would be right now if McCain were president (even Glenn Beck agress with this).

Considering all of the horror that McCain would have unleashed to the world, as the senile follow-up to Bush (who can't even use email), defeating McCain alone is worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize.

Watching Fox News will be funny. Imagine trying to maintain these two contradictory thoughts in your head at the same time: 1) America is the greatest country in the world, 2) it is an embarrassment for the President of the United States to win the Nobel Peace Prize.

HA!!!!!

Republicans are way out-of-touch and very unpatriotic of they see this as a national embarrassment.

Right on, Carlsagan! You said it...perfectly...

BrattonBasher · 10-09-2009, 10:05 AM

Now Obama has to make the Afghanistan decision. If he sends in more troops how does that look?

***The_Clone_Depot*** · 10-09-2009, 11:35 AM

The deadline for the nominations for nobel prize is Feb. 1, meaning the president was nominated after being in office for just 11 days!

WTF

shecky7 · 10-09-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Clone_Depot

The deadline for the nominations for nobel prize is Feb. 1, meaning the president was nominated after being in office for just 11 days!

WTF

Bump the cutoff date two months forward and this makes perfect sense like gopers said, "Is this April Fools day?"

contract.dude · 10-09-2009, 01:04 PM

i wonder what the other people had achieved to earn that award in the past...

maybe they will give them out in crackerjack boxes next..

makes the request for them troops a sticky one, for the great peace maker.

VooDoo Chile · 10-09-2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LemonHerb

I would think they will first start with talking about how unhappy they are that their president got a Nobel Peace Prize, because what American would want that? Next, after a couple days when that doesn't get the reaction they want they will instead try to discredit the Nobel Peace Prize entirely by saying stuff like Arafat got one. I mean after Gore got one you figure the Fox news crowd doesn't put a whole lot of stock in the Nobel Prize, it ranks up there with intelligence on their things we are afraid of chart.

Hopefully they go full retard on this one and claim he was not eligible for the Peace Prize because he can't produce a planet earth birth certificate.

They did the same shit when Paul Krugman got his nobel. They blathered on and on about the obvious liberal bias

God forbid the Nobel Committee try and encourage a dramatic shift in U.S. foreign policy, those commie bastards. Since when does using diplomacy in the international arena help facilitate peace? And why on earth would you ever reward a U.S. President for defying the wishes of the holy Israeli government!

I remember reading a hilarious article admitting the fact that conservatives rarely win these kinds of things because in order to win one, ya have to, ya know, help humanity as opposed to simply blowing people up.

VooDoo Chile · 10-09-2009, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

Now Obama has to make the Afghanistan decision. If he sends in more troops how does that look?

If he sends more troops, he'll have to give this back LOL

ShiningSkull · 10-09-2009, 01:52 PM

Hey, Rio... where's your Peace Prize? Huh?

Hahahahahahahaha...

Ok, just had to get that jingoistic braggadocio out there...

LemonHerb · 10-09-2009, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Clone_Depot

The deadline for the nominations for nobel prize is Feb. 1, meaning the president was nominated after being in office for just 11 days!

WTF

You may be unaware but he actually existed before the election, and according to most accounts his philosophy has been the same for some time now.

10-09-2009, 06:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
gopers Can't kill a man born to hang Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oak Hills Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES Posts: 1,230 Rep Power: 42766	What did he win the Nobel for??? HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa I thought today was April 1st Analysis: He won, but for what? - Yahoo! News Analysis: He won, but for what? ASHINGTON – The awarding of the Nobel Peace Price to President Barack Obama landed with a shock on darkened, still-asleep Washington. He won! For what? For one of America's youngest presidents, in office less than nine months — and only for 12 days before the Nobel nomination deadline last February — it was an enormous honor. The prize seems to be more for Obama's promise than for his performance. Work on the president's ambitious agenda, both at home and abroad, is barely underway, much less finished. He has no standout moment of victory that would seem to warrant a verdict as sweeping as that issued by the Nobel committee. And what about peace? Obama is running two wars in the Muslim world — in Iraq and Afghanistan — and can't get a climate change bill through his own Congress. His scorecard for the year is largely an "incomplete," if he's being graded. He banned torture and other extreme interrogation techniques for terrorists. But he also promised to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, a source of much distaste for the U.S. around the world, a difficult task that now seems headed to miss his own January 2010 deadline. He said he would end the Iraq war. But he has been slow to bring the troops home and the real end of the U.S. military presence there won't come until at least 2012, and that's only if both the U.S. and Iraq stick to their current agreement about American troop withdrawals. He has pushed for new efforts to make peace between the Israelis and Palestinians. But he's received little cooperation from the two sides. He said he wants a nuclear-free world. But it's one thing to telegraph the desire, in a speech in Prague in April, and quite another to unite other nations and U.S. lawmakers behind the web of treaties and agreements needed to make that reality. He has said that battling climate change is a priority. But the U.S. seems likely to head into crucial international negotiations set for Copenhagen in December with legislation still stalled in Congress. And what about Obama's global prestige? It seemed to take a big hit last week when he jetted across the Atlantic to lobby for Chicago to get the 2016 Olympics — and was rejected with a last-place finish. Perhaps for the Nobel committee, merely altering the tone out of Washington toward the rest of the world is enough. Obama got much attention for his speech from Cairo reaching out a U.S. hand to the world's Muslims. His remarks at the U.N. General Assembly last month set down new markers for the way the U.S. works with the world. But still ... ? Obama aides seemed as surprised at the news as everyone else, not even aware he had been nominated along with a record 204 others. Awoken by press secretary Robert Gibbs about an hour after the vote was announced, the White House says the president responded that he was humbled to be only the third sitting U.S. president to win. The award could be as much about issuing a slap at Obama's predecessor, former President George W. Bush, as about lauding Obama. Bush was reviled by the world for his cowboy diplomacy, Iraq war and snubbing of European priorities like global warming. Remember that the Nobel prize has a long history of being awarded more for the committee's aspirations than for others' accomplishments — for Mideast peace or a better South Africa, for instance. In those cases, the prize is awarded to encourage those who receive it to see the effort through, sometimes at critical moments. Obama likely understands that his challenges are too steep to resolve — much less honor — after just a few months. "It's not going to be easy," the president often says of the tasks ahead for the United States and the world. The Nobel committee, it seems, had the audacity to hope that he'll eventually produce a record worthy of its prize. ___ EDITOR'S NOTE: Jennifer Loven is the AP's chief White House corespondent. So, this piece is not from a "right wing paper". I think from now on, I will just ignore the whole "Nobel" prize receiptients after this. Oh, and please don't call me a hater. That is sooooooooooo old. What the Nobel committee did here was a joke. I would understand if the POTUS Barry would get us out of Iraq, end the shit in Afghanistan with the Taliban ending their need to keep women hidden behind clothing, uneducated, beaten, circumcised,and I could go on. Also that they would not push jihad anymore. And that the Afghan people could live freely. The Israelis and the palestinians live hand and hand with no more bus and cafe bombings and no more military retaliations. Then I would not think the "peace prize" award would be so laughable. I look at it this way. You get paid for saying your going to do something before you do it. That is just as bad as professional athletes getting mega money before they even do a damn thing. Sort of like a lot of other jobs in this world. Just as bad as corporate officers receiving big exit bonuses for leaving a company that is not doing well. gopers says.."Nemo me impune lacesset," “No one will provoke me with impunity” Last edited by gopers; 10-09-2009 at 07:13 AM..

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