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polluted · 10-08-2009, 05:07 PM

It took corporate media swine flu hysteria to ram through a martial law bill in Massachusetts. S18 gives the Governor the power to authorize the deployment and use of force to distribute supplies and materials and local authorities will be allowed to enter private residences for investigation and to quarantine individuals.
Saakashvili?s “democracy” in Georgia...

The bill specifically mandates the following:
(1) to require the owner or occupier of premises to permit entry into and investigation of the premises;
(2) to close, direct, and compel the evacuation of, or to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated any building or facility, and to allow the reopening of the building or facility when the danger has ended;
(3) to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated, or to destroy any material;
(4) to restrict or prohibit assemblages of persons;
(5) to require a health care facility to provide services or the use of its facility, or to transfer the management and supervision of the health care facility to the department or to a local public health authority;
The 186th General Court...

The Associated Press reports:
The Massachusetts Senate has unanimously passed a pandemic flu preparation bill that has languished in the Legislature before the recent swine flu outbreak.

The 36-0 vote today sends the measure to the House. Both branches have taken it up in past years, but have not been able to agree on the details.

The new Senate version would allow the public health commissioner — in a public health emergency — to close or evacuate buildings, enter private property for investigations, and quarantine individuals.

contract.dude · 10-09-2009, 01:35 PM

glad we are in California...

69ER · 10-09-2009, 01:42 PM

WTF! i would never in my life allow something like that to go down, they would have to shoot me.... F**K THAT!!!!!!!

VooDoo Chile · 10-09-2009, 01:54 PM

Yeah, good thing Faux News doesn't worry about reporting on facts.

contract.dude · 10-09-2009, 03:05 PM

here is the bill

http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/sena...df/st00018.pdf

read it for yourself and make up your mind.

Panjammin · 10-11-2009, 12:10 AM

Its madness.. Just for a companys gain, so many peoples lives will be affected by this vaccine shot. ...what happened to our rights? ....its not the peoples government anymore when a strong current of corruption runs through all branches of our judicial system..

VooDoo Chile · 10-11-2009, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panjammin

Its madness.. Just for a companys gain, so many peoples lives will be affected by this vaccine shot. ...what happened to our rights? ....its not the peoples government anymore when a strong current of corruption runs through all branches of our judicial system..

Gosh I didn't realize our judicial system had multiple branches! Where have I been, eh?

BrattonBasher · 10-12-2009, 10:57 AM

This cracks me up because people are so freaking paranoid. The vote on this was 36 to nothing. These provisions only happen if there is a pandemic.

silvercloud · 10-12-2009, 11:12 AM

Just got over a 12-day bout w/seasonal flu ~

Secretary of Health has announced the H1N1 is already at "pandemic proportions" ~

Thing is ,90% of respirators (disposable) are produced abroad b/c of cheaper labor ,and some of the countries are 'keeping' stockpiles for themselves ,thus a 'huge' shortfall of the 3 billion called for (only a small fraction ,350 mil) ~

An ounce of prevention

always worth a pound of cure ,right ?!?!? ~

Me does lotza public transp ,don't need anymore flu fo sho` ~ that is all

Oxfarm · 10-12-2009, 11:14 AM

Paranoid? This allows the police to enter your home without a warrant or without your consent. This is not a surprise coming from uber-liberal Massachusetts.

VooDoo Chile · 10-12-2009, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxfarm

Paranoid? This allows the police to enter your home without a warrant or without your consent. This is not a surprise coming from uber-liberal Massachusetts.

Nice bait. Too bad I ain't takin' it.

BrattonBasher · 10-12-2009, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxfarm

Paranoid? This allows the police to enter your home without a warrant or without your consent. This is not a surprise coming from uber-liberal Massachusetts.

LOL 36 to nothing! Obviously Massachusetts must be run by anti-Constitution Commie Pinko Liberal Socialists!!! I mean the nerve of them trying to stop the spread of the flu...

VooDoo Chile · 10-12-2009, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

LOL 36 to nothing! Obviously Massachusetts must be run by anti-Constitution Commie Pinko Liberal Socialists!!! I mean the nerve of them trying to stop the spread of the flu...

Millions o' people dying of the Swine Flu is all part of Jesus' magical plan o' magicalness! This is yet another instance of liberal commies interfering with God's Divine Plan.

shecky7 · 10-12-2009, 02:10 PM

Whew!
Good thing we are men and women and not individuals or ¡gasp! 'persons'.

Also, in the MAss con. for those who claim personhood this is in defiance of their own con.
Article XLVIII.
Initiatives
Section II
Subsection 2
No proposition inconsistent with any one of the following rights of the individual, as at present declared in the declaration of rights, shall be the subject of an initiative or referendum petition: The right to receive compensation for private property appropriated to public use; the right of access to and protection in courts of justice; the right of trial by jury; protection from unreasonable search, unreasonable bail and the law martial; freedom of the press; freedom of speech; freedom of elections; and the right of peaceable assembly.

contract.dude · 10-12-2009, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

LOL 36 to nothing! Obviously Massachusetts must be run by anti-Constitution Commie Pinko Liberal Socialists!!! I mean the nerve of them trying to stop the spread of the flu...

the bill is far reaching for our society, another liberty removed.

you want to stop the flu from spreading wash your hands and stay at home if your sick.

That could have been made a law. If you read the bill its ugly what they have the ability to do to individuals.

if your sic (employees/students/people) cant be punished for getting sic (fired for not coming to work, failure of school) . just a thought.

contract.dude · 10-12-2009, 03:04 PM

here is something about the vaccination of this flu...

California Chronicle | Government Immunizes Pharmaceutical Companies From Swine Flu Immunization Lawsuits

Government Immunizes Pharmaceutical Companies From Swine Flu Immunization Lawsuits
Bill Lindner
July 22, 2009
A new document, signed by Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius, reportedly immunizes Swine Flu vaccine manufacturers from lawsuits that result from any new swine flu vaccine -- just in time for protecting Pharmaceutical companies, including one that patented a Swine Flu vaccine a year ago, rushing to make billions of dollars in profits from a suspiciously questionable Swine Flu Pandemic manufactured by the World Health Organization (WHO) when the Swine Flu appeared during President Obama's visit to Mexico this past April.

During the mid 1970's, thousands of people filed lawsuits claiming they had suffered side effects from vaccine shots they received. Over 30 years later, with even more potentially fatal vaccines being rushed to market by scandal-ridden Pharmaceutical companies, the government has decided to make sure people who suffer from the adverse affects of the vaccines have no legal recourse with the manufacturers for their pain, suffering or death should it occur.

In the U.S. Government's typical modus operandi of giving themselves impunity for egregious crimes against humanity, the document that Sebelius signed last month was designed to grant immunity to those making a swine flu vaccine under the provisions of a 2006 law for public health emergencies that allows for a compensation fund if needed. Federal officials will also be immune from lawsuits under the document signed by Sebelius, conveniently granting themselves impunity from their actions that, in this case, eerily resemble acts of bioterrorism.

The 2006 law for public health emergencies is known as the 'Model Act.' It was modeled after the highly controversial 2001 'Model State Emergency Health Powers Act' supposedly written at the behest of someone with the Centers for Disease Control. The Model Act defines a public health emergency as an occurence or imminent threat of an illness or health condition believed to be caused by bioterrorism, the appearance of a novel of previously controlled or eradicated infectious agents or biological toxin, a natural disaster, a chemical attack or accidental release, or a nuclear attack or accident AND poses a high probability of a large number of deaths in the affected population, or widespread exposure to an infectious or toxic agent that poses a significant risk of substantial future harm to a large number of people in the affected population.

Baxter Filed for Swine Flu Vaccine a Year ago

On August 28, 2008, Baxter filed patent application # US200900609501A1 for their Swine Flu vaccine -- almost a year before the 'pandemic' was created by the WHO. A list of all the types of influenza included in Baxter's patent request can be found in this article from The Centre for Research on Globalization.

Baxter, who 'accidently' released contaminated flu virus material from its plant in Austria earlier this year, has reportedly received vaccine orders from five countries and won't be taking orders for anymore. Baxter's second quarter profits are already up 7.9 percent but it claims that the increased earnings don't reflect any contributions from making the Swine Flu vaccine.

In 1976, during the last Swine Flu pandemic that never materialized, over 40 million Americans were vaccinated. Thousands of those filed injury claims, saying they suffered from a paralyzing condition known as Guillain-Barre Syndrome or other side effects from receiving the Swine flu vaccinations. Will the Swine Flu pandemic being pushed by the Government materialize this time or will it end up being more politically-motivated propaganda responsible for killing an untold number of victims?

A Whole Industry is Waiting for a Pandemic

Epidemiologist Tom Jefferson slammed the 'dangerous fearmongering' being used to scare the public about the Swine Flu, dismissing it as nothing more than the product of an industry anticipating a profitable pandemic during a recent interview with Spiegel Online International.

In the Spiegel interview, Jefferson noted that one of the extraordinary features of this influenza -- and the whole influenza saga -- is that there are some people who make predictions year after year that get worse and worse, although none have come true so far and sometimes you get the feeling that there is a whole industry almost waiting for a pandemic to occur.

Jefferson also notes that the Swine Flu has been categorized as a pandemic because the WHO has changed its definition of a pandemic -- the old definition was a new virus, which went around quickly, for which you didn't have immunity, and which created a high morbidity and mortality rate. Now the WHO's definition of pandemic doesn't include not having immunity or high morbidity and mortality rates. He also notes that the estimated deaths attributed to the flu by the WHO are systematically overestimated.

He goes on to note that influenza is a big money maker for the Pharmaceutical companies because there are vaccines and drugs you can sell to combat it. Because there is big money in it, the Pharmaceutical industry makes sure that its research is published in the good medical journals. The strict focus on influenza is not only misguided, it's also dangerous according to Mr. Jefferson.

Vaccine Rushed to Market Before Trial Results are Received

Jefferson has systematically evaluated all the studies on immunization against seasonal influenza and notes that immunization doesn't work particularly well. Influenza vaccines don't work well against the majority of influenza-like illnesses because it's only designed to combat influenza viruses. Because of that, the vaccine changes nothing when it comes to the winter months. Even in the best cases, the flu vaccine only works against influenza viruses to a limited degree.

Jefferson also reveals some interesting information about Tamiflu and its affect on people. More information and Jefferson's interview can be found in this article from Spiegel Online International.

Five Pharmaceutical companies have reportedly contracted with the Federal government to make swine flu vaccine. According to InfoWars, the story gets worse. Now that the Obama administration has signed a document of immunity from legal prosecution, the U.S. FDA and the UK Health authorities have decided to let the Pharmaceutical companies put the vaccine products onto the market before any tests of the possibly harmful side effects of the vaccines become known. Children will be the first in line to receive the shots more than a month before trial results are received.

Based on what we already know about the questionable Swine Flu pandemic and the potentially lethal Swine Flu vaccines being rushed to market -- as well as Baxter's deadly faux pas in the past -- and the U.S. immunizing vaccine makers and Federal officials from lawsuits, it appears that 1976 is repeating itself on a much larger scale, only this time around it could be a lot more deadly. The more the facts come out about this alleged Swine Flu Pandemic, the more dubious it appears. You may want to wait awhile and see what happens before getting vaccinated.

BrattonBasher · 10-12-2009, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by contract.dude

the bill is far reaching for our society, another liberty removed.

you want to stop the flu from spreading wash your hands and stay at home if your sick.

That could have been made a law. If you read the bill its ugly what they have the ability to do to individuals.

if your sic (employees/students/people) cant be punished for getting sic (fired for not coming to work, failure of school) . just a thought.

How will this be far reaching to our society when only one State is enacting this? This has exactly zero to do with say, California.

VooDoo Chile · 10-12-2009, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by contract.dude

the bill is far reaching for our society, another liberty removed.

you want to stop the flu from spreading wash your hands and stay at home if your sick.

That could have been made a law. If you read the bill its ugly what they have the ability to do to individuals.

if your sic (employees/students/people) cant be punished for getting sic (fired for not coming to work, failure of school) . just a thought.

The bill may very well have been overbroad. Hence why it didn't pass.

contract.dude · 10-12-2009, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

How will this be far reaching to our society when only one State is enacting this? This has exactly zero to do with say, California.

glad you read the first point i made on the thread, wow we agree on something...

contract.dude · 10-12-2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxfarm

Paranoid? This allows the police to enter your home without a warrant or without your consent. This is not a surprise coming from uber-liberal Massachusetts.

.. can you imagine if someone with HIV was treated this way?

VooDoo Chile · 10-12-2009, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by contract.dude

.. can you imagine if someone with HIV was treated this way?

Not that I'm defending the contents of this bill, but that's a rather weak parallel because HIV isn't airbourne. Swine Flu is. Big difference.

contract.dude · 10-12-2009, 03:23 PM

yeah, bad choice.. west Nile virus then...

shecky7 · 10-12-2009, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VooDoo Chile

Not that I'm defending the contents of this bill, but that's a rather weak parallel because HIV isn't airbourne. Swine Flu is. Big difference.

VooDoo Chile · 10-12-2009, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by contract.dude

yeah, bad choice.. west Nile virus then...

Ya got me there. I don't know shit 'bout that one, beyond the fact that it's spread by mosquitos.

Oxfarm · 10-12-2009, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by contract.dude

.. can you imagine if someone with HIV was treated this way?

Brilliant point! Imagine if the cops could enter your home for "investigation purposes" simply because you are HIV positive. To me, this is just another example of liberalism pushing Massachusetts closer to becoming the perfect nanny state.

"A government big enough to supply you with everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have."
~Thomas Jefferson

10-08-2009, 05:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
polluted WT Advanced Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 977 Rep Power: 7982	Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate It took corporate media swine flu hysteria to ram through a martial law bill in Massachusetts. S18 gives the Governor the power to authorize the deployment and use of force to distribute supplies and materials and local authorities will be allowed to enter private residences for investigation and to quarantine individuals. Saakashvili?s “democracy” in Georgia... The bill specifically mandates the following: (1) to require the owner or occupier of premises to permit entry into and investigation of the premises; (2) to close, direct, and compel the evacuation of, or to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated any building or facility, and to allow the reopening of the building or facility when the danger has ended; (3) to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated, or to destroy any material; (4) to restrict or prohibit assemblages of persons; (5) to require a health care facility to provide services or the use of its facility, or to transfer the management and supervision of the health care facility to the department or to a local public health authority; The 186th General Court... The Associated Press reports: The Massachusetts Senate has unanimously passed a pandemic flu preparation bill that has languished in the Legislature before the recent swine flu outbreak. The 36-0 vote today sends the measure to the House. Both branches have taken it up in past years, but have not been able to agree on the details. The new Senate version would allow the public health commissioner — in a public health emergency — to close or evacuate buildings, enter private property for investigations, and quarantine individuals. polluted says.. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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contract.dude hello Join Date: Jan 2007 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 470 Rep Power: 17291	Re: Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate glad we are in California... contract.dude says..grow your own or find someone that does..

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69ER KEEP ON KEEPIN' ON Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: 818 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 299 Rep Power: 24320	Re: Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate WTF! i would never in my life allow something like that to go down, they would have to shoot me.... F*K THAT!!!!!!! 69ER says..P-ositive E-nergy A-ctivates C-onstant E-levation legalize it, don't criticize it, To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* R.I.P poetic

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VooDoo Chile Stoned Immaculate Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canoga Park, Fool Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES Posts: 1,879 Rep Power: 113264	Re: Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate Yeah, good thing Faux News doesn't worry about reporting on facts. VooDoo Chile says.."A Young Lady Raised in a Kooky Era"- ScrewyLewy

10-09-2009, 03:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
contract.dude hello Join Date: Jan 2007 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 470 Rep Power: 17291	Re: Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate here is the bill http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/sena...df/st00018.pdf read it for yourself and make up your mind. contract.dude says..grow your own or find someone that does..

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Panjammin "You gotta run like an antelope out of control!" Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Hollywood Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 147 Rep Power: 4503	Re: Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate Its madness.. Just for a companys gain, so many peoples lives will be affected by this vaccine shot. ...what happened to our rights? ....its not the peoples government anymore when a strong current of corruption runs through all branches of our judicial system..

10-12-2009, 10:57 AM	#8 (permalink)
BrattonBasher Weed Wizard Of Westwood Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Monica Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 7,099 Rep Power: 127208	Re: Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate This cracks me up because people are so freaking paranoid. The vote on this was 36 to nothing. These provisions only happen if there is a pandemic.

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silvercloud WT Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: venice beach Co-Op: non Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 2,103 Rep Power: 36071	Re: Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate Just got over a 12-day bout w/seasonal flu ~ Secretary of Health has announced the H1N1 is already at "pandemic proportions" ~ Thing is ,90% of respirators (disposable) are produced abroad b/c of cheaper labor ,and some of the countries are 'keeping' stockpiles for themselves ,thus a 'huge' shortfall of the 3 billion called for (only a small fraction ,350 mil) ~ An ounce of prevention always worth a pound of cure ,right ?!?!? ~ Me does lotza public transp ,don't need anymore flu fo sho` ~ that is all silvercloud says..Try to keep an open To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "3rdEye" wherever ,whenever ..... "If life doesn't wait ,why wait on life" ... ?/? ..... Last edited by silvercloud; 10-12-2009 at 11:36 AM..

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Oxfarm I'm living for the night Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: East Pacific Coast Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES Posts: 176 Rep Power: 3184	Re: Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate Paranoid? This allows the police to enter your home without a warrant or without your consent. This is not a surprise coming from uber-liberal Massachusetts.

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shecky7 the decedent Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: edge of the pacific plate Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES Posts: 1,628 Rep Power: 28914	Re: Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate Whew! Good thing we are men and women and not individuals or ¡gasp! 'persons'. Also, in the MAss con. for those who claim personhood this is in defiance of their own con. Article XLVIII. Initiatives Section II Subsection 2 No proposition inconsistent with any one of the following rights of the individual, as at present declared in the declaration of rights, shall be the subject of an initiative or referendum petition: The right to receive compensation for private property appropriated to public use; the right of access to and protection in courts of justice; the right of trial by jury; protection from unreasonable search, unreasonable bail and the law martial; freedom of the press; freedom of speech; freedom of elections; and the right of peaceable assembly. shecky7 says..the decedent speaks

10-12-2009, 03:04 PM	#16 (permalink)
contract.dude hello Join Date: Jan 2007 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 470 Rep Power: 17291	Re: Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate here is something about the vaccination of this flu... California Chronicle \| Government Immunizes Pharmaceutical Companies From Swine Flu Immunization Lawsuits Government Immunizes Pharmaceutical Companies From Swine Flu Immunization Lawsuits Bill Lindner July 22, 2009 A new document, signed by Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius, reportedly immunizes Swine Flu vaccine manufacturers from lawsuits that result from any new swine flu vaccine -- just in time for protecting Pharmaceutical companies, including one that patented a Swine Flu vaccine a year ago, rushing to make billions of dollars in profits from a suspiciously questionable Swine Flu Pandemic manufactured by the World Health Organization (WHO) when the Swine Flu appeared during President Obama's visit to Mexico this past April. During the mid 1970's, thousands of people filed lawsuits claiming they had suffered side effects from vaccine shots they received. Over 30 years later, with even more potentially fatal vaccines being rushed to market by scandal-ridden Pharmaceutical companies, the government has decided to make sure people who suffer from the adverse affects of the vaccines have no legal recourse with the manufacturers for their pain, suffering or death should it occur. In the U.S. Government's typical modus operandi of giving themselves impunity for egregious crimes against humanity, the document that Sebelius signed last month was designed to grant immunity to those making a swine flu vaccine under the provisions of a 2006 law for public health emergencies that allows for a compensation fund if needed. Federal officials will also be immune from lawsuits under the document signed by Sebelius, conveniently granting themselves impunity from their actions that, in this case, eerily resemble acts of bioterrorism. The 2006 law for public health emergencies is known as the 'Model Act.' It was modeled after the highly controversial 2001 'Model State Emergency Health Powers Act' supposedly written at the behest of someone with the Centers for Disease Control. The Model Act defines a public health emergency as an occurence or imminent threat of an illness or health condition believed to be caused by bioterrorism, the appearance of a novel of previously controlled or eradicated infectious agents or biological toxin, a natural disaster, a chemical attack or accidental release, or a nuclear attack or accident AND poses a high probability of a large number of deaths in the affected population, or widespread exposure to an infectious or toxic agent that poses a significant risk of substantial future harm to a large number of people in the affected population. Baxter Filed for Swine Flu Vaccine a Year ago On August 28, 2008, Baxter filed patent application # US200900609501A1 for their Swine Flu vaccine -- almost a year before the 'pandemic' was created by the WHO. A list of all the types of influenza included in Baxter's patent request can be found in this article from The Centre for Research on Globalization. Baxter, who 'accidently' released contaminated flu virus material from its plant in Austria earlier this year, has reportedly received vaccine orders from five countries and won't be taking orders for anymore. Baxter's second quarter profits are already up 7.9 percent but it claims that the increased earnings don't reflect any contributions from making the Swine Flu vaccine. In 1976, during the last Swine Flu pandemic that never materialized, over 40 million Americans were vaccinated. Thousands of those filed injury claims, saying they suffered from a paralyzing condition known as Guillain-Barre Syndrome or other side effects from receiving the Swine flu vaccinations. Will the Swine Flu pandemic being pushed by the Government materialize this time or will it end up being more politically-motivated propaganda responsible for killing an untold number of victims? A Whole Industry is Waiting for a Pandemic Epidemiologist Tom Jefferson slammed the 'dangerous fearmongering' being used to scare the public about the Swine Flu, dismissing it as nothing more than the product of an industry anticipating a profitable pandemic during a recent interview with Spiegel Online International. In the Spiegel interview, Jefferson noted that one of the extraordinary features of this influenza -- and the whole influenza saga -- is that there are some people who make predictions year after year that get worse and worse, although none have come true so far and sometimes you get the feeling that there is a whole industry almost waiting for a pandemic to occur. Jefferson also notes that the Swine Flu has been categorized as a pandemic because the WHO has changed its definition of a pandemic -- the old definition was a new virus, which went around quickly, for which you didn't have immunity, and which created a high morbidity and mortality rate. Now the WHO's definition of pandemic doesn't include not having immunity or high morbidity and mortality rates. He also notes that the estimated deaths attributed to the flu by the WHO are systematically overestimated. He goes on to note that influenza is a big money maker for the Pharmaceutical companies because there are vaccines and drugs you can sell to combat it. Because there is big money in it, the Pharmaceutical industry makes sure that its research is published in the good medical journals. The strict focus on influenza is not only misguided, it's also dangerous according to Mr. Jefferson. Vaccine Rushed to Market Before Trial Results are Received Jefferson has systematically evaluated all the studies on immunization against seasonal influenza and notes that immunization doesn't work particularly well. Influenza vaccines don't work well against the majority of influenza-like illnesses because it's only designed to combat influenza viruses. Because of that, the vaccine changes nothing when it comes to the winter months. Even in the best cases, the flu vaccine only works against influenza viruses to a limited degree. Jefferson also reveals some interesting information about Tamiflu and its affect on people. More information and Jefferson's interview can be found in this article from Spiegel Online International. Five Pharmaceutical companies have reportedly contracted with the Federal government to make swine flu vaccine. According to InfoWars, the story gets worse. Now that the Obama administration has signed a document of immunity from legal prosecution, the U.S. FDA and the UK Health authorities have decided to let the Pharmaceutical companies put the vaccine products onto the market before any tests of the possibly harmful side effects of the vaccines become known. Children will be the first in line to receive the shots more than a month before trial results are received. Based on what we already know about the questionable Swine Flu pandemic and the potentially lethal Swine Flu vaccines being rushed to market -- as well as Baxter's deadly faux pas in the past -- and the U.S. immunizing vaccine makers and Federal officials from lawsuits, it appears that 1976 is repeating itself on a much larger scale, only this time around it could be a lot more deadly. The more the facts come out about this alleged Swine Flu Pandemic, the more dubious it appears. You may want to wait awhile and see what happens before getting vaccinated. contract.dude says..grow your own or find someone that does..

10-12-2009, 03:23 PM	#22 (permalink)
contract.dude hello Join Date: Jan 2007 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 470 Rep Power: 17291	Re: Swine Flu Martial Law Bill Clears Massachusetts Senate yeah, bad choice.. west Nile virus then... contract.dude says..grow your own or find someone that does..

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