[HappaGuy]

MSNBC actually ran a poll on the Bush Impeachment.

89 percent of the near 700,000 respondents agreed that Bush's actions justify impeachment.

And I felt so lonely.

Looks like they closed the poll. For the sake of redundancy in the historical record...

Live Vote
Do you believe President Bush's actions justify impeachment? * 678355 responses
Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
89%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching "high crimes and misdemeanors."
4.1%
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
4.5%
I don't know.
2%
...

Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10561966/


HAPPY! I love the Constitution of our nation. We are so blessed.

Ben Franklin was asked, shortly after the constitutional convention, what he'd wrought.

He replied "A republic madame - if you can keep it."

Let's keep it.

Call your house rep and senators today, please.

Tell them you support impeachment of Bush and Cheney. (Or whatever you think - but please do read up. The nation has been duped by these people.)

Let 'em know you love this country of ours more than the delusional comfort into which this nation seems so well settled. Let 'em know you our constitution is more important than the Supreme Court appointed President who has shown such contempt for his oath of office by shredding it and the lives of over a million innocent souls with his unprovoked wars of aggression.

We are better than this.

We have but to "Make it so, Number One."



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UPDATE:

Message from Ramsey Clark

Impeachment is not a political question. Impeachment is a constitutional duty. It is the one power and highest duty the Constitution rests in the Congress to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States when the President, Vice President, and other civil officers of the United States commit treason, bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

George Bush has deliberately, falsely and systematically mislead the Congress and the American people concerning the most criminal, costly and harmful acts of his administration, leading us to war, tragic loss of human life, the devastation of Iraq, military expenses reaching trillions of dollars, disruption of the economy that will take decades to overcome, a contemptuous assault on the Bill of Rights, an international humanitarian disaster, deliberate antagonism and provocation of nations and people, most once friendly, and an enlarging assault on the earth's environment.

On June 5, 2008, a long delayed five year U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence study and 170-page report unanimously found President Bush, Vice President Cheney and other top officers had made false charges and systematically presented a more dire picture about Iraq than justified by intelligence provided only to them. The Committee included both Democrats and Republicans.

Today President Bush is exerting all his power and influence to repeatedly urge Europe, Israel and others to support an attack on Iran which he intends to commence in the remaining months of the presidency. Iran is larger than Iraq and Afghanistan, has millions of people, richer by a multiple, unimpaired by recent war and will fight fiercely if attacked. He is negotiating a permanent U.S. military presence in Iraq placing the U.S. on Iran's border.

The next several Presidents of the United States will spend their time in office miserably fighting wars started by Bush, as our economy is consumed in military spending.

Impeachment, a Constitutional duty, is the only way to prevent George W. Bush and his cabal from vastly enlarging the disastrous wars he has already inflicted on the world and the American people. The House of Representatives must quickly consider Bills of Impeachment long overdue, and the Senate must prepare to sit in judgment of President Bush, Vice President Cheney other officers who are implicated.

Ramsey Clark
June 10, 2008

Source: www.votetoimpeach.org (via email)

[Au_Hunter]

I love your consistancy Brother Hap...

So, then where are the charges?

Where are all those majority members?

Why aren't they, the majority pushing the impeachment?

Much love and comfort to ya...

[OakSmokeMJA]

Thanks for this thread Happaguy,

I just sent my letter to Barbara Lee (she speaks for me) voicing my support for impeachment.

If we do not impeach now, it is as if we are saying that it is OK for our next presidents to behave just as bad, because, there are no consequences. Not only that but this administration will be handing down unprecedented powers to the next executive that it will most likely not seek to relinquish.

Bush should be impeached. He is a criminal and should also be tried for war crimes by the International War Crimes Tribunal. See link
http://deoxy.org/wc/warcrim2.htm

[OakSmokeMJA]

Originally Posted by Au_Hunter

I love your consistancy Brother Hap...

So, then where are the charges?

Where are all those majority members?

Why aren't they, the majority pushing the impeachment?

Much love and comfort to ya...

the charges are as follows, (actual text of the resolution)
Hope you have a minute to read Au. It's quite extensive.
http://kucinich.house.gov/UploadedFiles/int3.pdf

[Au_Hunter]

Originally Posted by OakSmokeMJA

the charges are as follows, (actual text of the resolution)
Hope you have a minute to read Au. It's quite extensive.
http://kucinich.house.gov/UploadedFiles/int3.pdf

Oh, please believe me, I have read them, listened to all the hype and even gone round and round on this subjest with Hap previously and why I didn't go back to past posts.

Now, I don't disagree with your conclusion, but my conclusion is that the entire federal government has been working outside the constitutional limits for decades, including both parties in many different admistrations.

I could say the same about the last administration over Bosina and we could argue about which of the administrations was more/less evil, but I won't...

I'll repost my summary.

The fed/gove has assumed powers beyond the limits of our Constitution, yet has not amended the Constitution via the amendment process, thus there is very little if any integrity remaining in the Constitution, including our Constitutional rights.

To focus upon one single administration for excesses of power forgives past excesses and fails to entail/include all the federal abuses of power, both republican and democrat.

When a citizen examines the voting record on those "Bush administration excesses" alledged which requires impeachment, they find that both parties supported those excesses.

Impeaching Bush fails to address the Bi-patrisian votes that granted him powers not within the Constitution, thus both parties are just as guilty.

Attempting to impeach this administration then becomes a simple partisian circle jerk, for lack of a better term, and failes to address federal excesses and the abuses of our Constitution, nor does it restore a single right.

You cannot "progressivly" alter the Constitution, then expect those you empowered to restrict their abuses.

I contend that to restore our Constitution we must visit those excesses and allow the Amendment process to run it's course, adopt those duties assumed or deny the fed/gov the ability to add more federal responsibility.

I know "progressives" fear this option as they have made great strides in entitlements and other programs not authorized, thus would never consider this option as the people then govern themselves as intended and may just limit/end the "progressive" agenda.

My personal $0.02

[OakSmokeMJA]

Au, you just asked what the charges were and then said that you've already read them.

I must admit, you do know where the political line is on every issue and all the arguments against "progress". But unfortunately, progressives and conservatives agree on this issue, that we were LIED to and the congress acted on LIES told by the administration. LIES my friend, not about oral sex, about reasons for going into a war where over a 100,000 of our soldiers have died. LIES.

[Au_Hunter]

Originally Posted by OakSmokeMJA

Au, you just asked what the charges were and then said that you've already read them.

I must admit, you do know where the political line is on every issue and all the arguments against "progress". But unfortunately, progressives and conservatives agree on this issue, that we were LIED to and the congress acted on LIES told by the administration. LIES my friend, not about oral sex, about reasons for going into a war where over a 100,000 of our soldiers have died. LIES.

Alright, for clarity, where are the offical charges?

Not a petition to sign, as if that accomplished anything, but the basis of impeachment?

Now If as you assert, Congress, especially those "progressives" with their "open minds" were tricked into believeing "Bush's lies" are they any less culpable or responsible for their votes and how can you have any confidence in their ability to govern when a (give me a moment to recall all the phrases) Frat boy, stupid, draft didging, inept, inarticulate... etc.

Fooled or tricked them into voting for use of force?

Now, I could posts dozens of Youtube video's of both Bill and Hill before Bush was elected discussing WMD's in Iraq, and those who voted for the use of force who believed that the "intellegence" supported the use of force before the "progressive left" went nutz and even Bill's plan for regiem change in Iraq, but why...

If those elected "progressives" were tricked, how much confidence do you have in their ability to govern?

They must be even less intellegent than Bush, Right?

BTW, exagerating doesn't assist your point.

http://icasualties.org/oif/default.aspx says...

U.S. Military Fatalities in Iraq: A Perspective on Year 5
After five years in Iraq, the U.S. military has suffered over 33,000 casualties, more than 29,000 wounded and 4,000 dead, and it remains engulfed by three <snip>

I found that link here, just FYI... http://www.whywehatebush.com/

What, no comments on the past excesses of increasing federalism?

No comments on restoring integrity to the Constitution or my assertion that "progressives" fear the amendment process?

With all due love and respect OakSmoke...