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gopers · 10-03-2009, 04:52 PM

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past - Telegraph

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by The Daily Telegraph shows.

A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots.

A close-up of the document reveals he was previously known as Sabourjian – a Jewish name meaning cloth weaver.

The short note scrawled on the card suggests his family changed its name to Ahmadinejad when they converted to embrace Islam after his birth.

The Sabourjians traditionally hail from Aradan, Mr Ahmadinejad's birthplace, and the name derives from "weaver of the Sabour", the name for the Jewish Tallit shawl in Persia. The name is even on the list of reserved names for Iranian Jews compiled by Iran's Ministry of the Interior.

Experts last night suggested Mr Ahmadinejad's track record for hate-filled attacks on Jews could be an overcompensation to hide his past.

Ali Nourizadeh, of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies, said: "This aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's background explains a lot about him.

"Every family that converts into a different religion takes a new identity by condemning their old faith.

"By making anti-Israeli statements he is trying to shed any suspicions about his Jewish connections. He feels vulnerable in a radical Shia society."

A London-based expert on Iranian Jewry said that "jian" ending to the name specifically showed the family had been practising Jews.

"He has changed his name for religious reasons, or at least his parents had," said the Iranian-born Jew living in London. "Sabourjian is well known Jewish name in Iran."

A spokesman for the Israeli embassy in London said it would not be drawn on Mr Ahmadinejad's background. "It's not something we'd talk about," said Ron Gidor, a spokesman.

The Iranian leader has not denied his name was changed when his family moved to Tehran in the 1950s. But he has never revealed what it was change from or directly addressed the reason for the switch.

Relatives have previously said a mixture of religious reasons and economic pressures forced his blacksmith father Ahmad to change when Mr Ahmadinejad was aged four.

The Iranian president grew up to be a qualified engineer with a doctorate in traffic management. He served in the Revolutionary Guards militia before going on to make his name in hardline politics in the capital.

During this year's presidential debate on television he was goaded to admit that his name had changed but he ignored the jibe.

However Mehdi Khazali, an internet blogger, who called for an investigation of Mr Ahmadinejad's roots was arrested this summer.

Mr Ahmadinejad has regularly levelled bitter criticism at Israel, questioned its right to exist and denied the Holocaust. British diplomats walked out of a UN meeting last month after the Iranian president denounced Israel's 'genocide, barbarism and racism.'

Benjamin Netanyahu made an impassioned denunciation of the Iranian leader at the same UN summit. "Yesterday, the man who calls the Holocaust a lie spoke from this podium," he said. "A mere six decades after the Holocaust, you give legitimacy to a man who denies the murder of six million Jews while promising to wipe out the State of Israel, the State of the Jews. What a disgrace. What a mockery of the charter of the United Nations."

Mr Ahmadinejad has been consistently outspoken about the Nazi attempt to wipe out the Jewish race. "They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets," he declared at a conference on the holocaust staged in Tehran in 2006.

Wow, very interesting.

cannadyke · 10-03-2009, 07:05 PM

wow. fascinating.

it's like a closeted republican congressman who gets caught soliciting sex in a public bathroom. this kind of stuff happens when you repress who you actually are---it shows up in strange ways and it's usually not good. lashing out from a place of self-hatred. scary

superface13 · 10-04-2009, 07:24 AM

Wow that makes total sense.

It's exactly like someone with homosexual tendencies that that is publicly outspoken against homosexuals. Scary win people with power are like that.

VooDoo Chile · 10-04-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by superface13

Wow that makes total sense.

It's exactly like someone with homosexual tendencies that that is publicly outspoken against homosexuals. Scary win people with power are like that.

Well, this revelation explains why Iran sought help from Israel during the Iran/Iraq war now doesn't it??????

Hopefully, this clues people into the fact that anti-Semitic rhetoric is as hollow as all other types o' Middle Eastern rhetoric.

CarlSagan · 10-04-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by superface13

Wow that makes total sense.

It's exactly like someone with homosexual tendencies that that is publicly outspoken against homosexuals. Scary win people with power are like that.

yea...

He's one of those "self-hating" jews!

BrattonBasher · 10-05-2009, 05:18 PM

I thought this was de-bunked. I actually believe the asshole was one of the chicken-shit kidnappers of US Embassy personnel. I saw pictures that look exactly like that hemmoroid.

VooDoo Chile · 10-05-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

I thought this was de-bunked. I actually believe the asshole was one of the chicken-shit kidnappers of US Embassy personnel. I saw pictures that look exactly like that hemmoroid.

Yeah, I don't know how credible that "Jewish roots" info is, but I do know for a fact that Ahmadinejad was part of the hostage crisis.

DankJews · 10-07-2009, 02:59 PM

Interesting I Wonder If This Is Reputable, Well I Jut Know My Country Is One Very Small Country With An Army More Powerful Than All Of Its Neighbors Powers Combined.

.:Stay Medicated:.

BrattonBasher · 10-07-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DankJews

Interesting I Wonder If This Is Reputable, Well I Jut Know My Country Is One Very Small Country With An Army More Powerful Than All Of Its Neighbors Powers Combined.

.:Stay Medicated:.

I think the prick is not a Jew. But you are dangerously wrong about the power of the Israeli Army. 30 years ago I would have agreed. Now the surrounding countries use civillians as shields, and are way better trained and outfitted.

VooDoo Chile · 10-08-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

I think the prick is not a Jew. But you are dangerously wrong about the power of the Israeli Army. 30 years ago I would have agreed. Now the surrounding countries use civillians as shields, and are way better trained and outfitted.

Yeah from what I understand, Israel doesn't have the proper equipment to take out that Iranian enrichment facility without assistance. The planes they have are incapable of flying that distance at a high rate of speed without touching down and refueling or something. Something to ponder.

Kushad · 10-08-2009, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DankJews

Interesting I Wonder If This Is Reputable, Well I Jut Know My Country Is One Very Small Country With An Army More Powerful Than All Of Its Neighbors Powers Combined.

.:Stay Medicated:.

Hmm....You're country is comprised of mostlyy Arab land that you are illegally occupying with your ever-so powerful US backed/funded/supported Army.

***Pico+Barrington Collective*** · 10-08-2009, 08:50 PM

wow......

DankJews · 10-08-2009, 10:07 PM

Keep That Flamin' I Don't Play Weedtracker Falmin' Games I Just Posted My Beliefs And Knowledge Right Or Wrong And Accept Nothing But Respect As I Show Others In The Community, If There Is Anything Wrong With That And Needs To Be Administered Differently Please Ask The Duty Of The Wonderful Admins Who Take Care Of This Site Very Well. Thanks

.:Stay Medicated:.

Kushad · 10-08-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DankJews

Keep That Flamin' I Don't Play Weedtracker Falmin' Games I Just Posted My Beliefs And Knowledge Right Or Wrong And Accept Nothing But Respect As I Show Others In The Community, If There Is Anything Wrong With That And Needs To Be Administered Differently Please Ask The Duty Of The Wonderful Admins Who Take Care Of This Site Very Well. Thanks

.:Stay Medicated:.

i honestly have no idea what you are trying to say.....

VooDoo Chile · 10-08-2009, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushad

i honestly have no idea what you are trying to say.....

I can't speak for him/her, but I believe s/he was saying that s/he's not going to respond to you.

DankJews · 10-08-2009, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VooDoo Chile

I can't speak for him/her, but I believe s/he was saying that s/he's not going to respond to you.

Haha Thanks, That Exactly Is What I Was Trying To Express.

gopers · 10-09-2009, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushad

Hmm....You're country is comprised of mostlyy Arab land that you are illegally occupying with your ever-so powerful US backed/funded/supported Army.

Funny, Arabs did not show up there until around 650 A.D.E.

So was it their land because they exercised their right of eminent domain in the name of allah?

VooDoo Chile · 10-09-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gopers

Funny, Arabs did not show up there until around 650 A.D.E.

So was it their land because they exercised their right of eminent domain in the name of allah?

Seriously y'all, let's not do this.

shecky7 · 10-09-2009, 02:28 PM

ha!A meshuga president!

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gopers Can't kill a man born to hang Join Date: May 2008 Location: Oak Hills Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES Posts: 1,230 Rep Power: 42766	Leader of iran has jewish roots. Who knew! Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past - Telegraph Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's vitriolic attacks on the Jewish world hide an astonishing secret, evidence uncovered by The Daily Telegraph shows. A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots. A close-up of the document reveals he was previously known as Sabourjian – a Jewish name meaning cloth weaver. The short note scrawled on the card suggests his family changed its name to Ahmadinejad when they converted to embrace Islam after his birth. The Sabourjians traditionally hail from Aradan, Mr Ahmadinejad's birthplace, and the name derives from "weaver of the Sabour", the name for the Jewish Tallit shawl in Persia. The name is even on the list of reserved names for Iranian Jews compiled by Iran's Ministry of the Interior. Experts last night suggested Mr Ahmadinejad's track record for hate-filled attacks on Jews could be an overcompensation to hide his past. Ali Nourizadeh, of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies, said: "This aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's background explains a lot about him. "Every family that converts into a different religion takes a new identity by condemning their old faith. "By making anti-Israeli statements he is trying to shed any suspicions about his Jewish connections. He feels vulnerable in a radical Shia society." A London-based expert on Iranian Jewry said that "jian" ending to the name specifically showed the family had been practising Jews. "He has changed his name for religious reasons, or at least his parents had," said the Iranian-born Jew living in London. "Sabourjian is well known Jewish name in Iran." A spokesman for the Israeli embassy in London said it would not be drawn on Mr Ahmadinejad's background. "It's not something we'd talk about," said Ron Gidor, a spokesman. The Iranian leader has not denied his name was changed when his family moved to Tehran in the 1950s. But he has never revealed what it was change from or directly addressed the reason for the switch. Relatives have previously said a mixture of religious reasons and economic pressures forced his blacksmith father Ahmad to change when Mr Ahmadinejad was aged four. The Iranian president grew up to be a qualified engineer with a doctorate in traffic management. He served in the Revolutionary Guards militia before going on to make his name in hardline politics in the capital. During this year's presidential debate on television he was goaded to admit that his name had changed but he ignored the jibe. However Mehdi Khazali, an internet blogger, who called for an investigation of Mr Ahmadinejad's roots was arrested this summer. Mr Ahmadinejad has regularly levelled bitter criticism at Israel, questioned its right to exist and denied the Holocaust. British diplomats walked out of a UN meeting last month after the Iranian president denounced Israel's 'genocide, barbarism and racism.' Benjamin Netanyahu made an impassioned denunciation of the Iranian leader at the same UN summit. "Yesterday, the man who calls the Holocaust a lie spoke from this podium," he said. "A mere six decades after the Holocaust, you give legitimacy to a man who denies the murder of six million Jews while promising to wipe out the State of Israel, the State of the Jews. What a disgrace. What a mockery of the charter of the United Nations." Mr Ahmadinejad has been consistently outspoken about the Nazi attempt to wipe out the Jewish race. "They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets," he declared at a conference on the holocaust staged in Tehran in 2006. Wow, very interesting. gopers says.."Nemo me impune lacesset," “No one will provoke me with impunity”

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