[BrattonBasher]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_297114.html

Nancy Pelosi weeped last week while talking about the potential for violence with all the anti-Government blather. This poor man might just have been a victim of the hate. Notice how this crime occured September 12th and we are just hearing about it now. These rich mercenary radio jocks have blood all over them. They don't seem to care as long as the cash flows...

[Oxfarm]

Jump to conclusions much?

Authorities haven't said if it's a suicide or a murder yet.

[MiddleOfNowhere]

Yeah, I suppose he *could* have hung himself and written "fed" on his own chest, but does that honestly sound like the more likely possibility?

[BrattonBasher]

Originally Posted by Oxfarm

Jump to conclusions much?

Authorities haven't said if it's a suicide or a murder yet.

The FBI investigate suicides much??? Sure fella, he scrawled FED on his chest before he hung himself! How pathetic...

[Mother Chucker]

thank you for posting this.
This man needs to be made a martyr fo rational thinking people everywjere.
We can't let ignorance and hate rule us.

[BrattonBasher]

Originally Posted by MiddleOfNowhere

Yeah, I suppose he *could* have hung himself and written "fed" on his own chest, but does that honestly sound like the more likely possibility?

Some Right Wingers just won't admit that their media leaders incessant and constant hate speech WILL incite dumbfucks to act out violence. The more responsible Right Wingers can clearly see this, and attempt to distance themselves from it.

[Oxfarm]

What I said was, nobody even knows what happened yet. This is the direct quote from the Associated Press article:

"Investigators are still trying to determine whether the death was a killing or a suicide, and if a killing, whether the motive was related to his government job or to anti-government sentiment."

You guys need to mellow out and not assign blame before the facts come out, or slander people who don't share your beliefs. It's foolhardy is all I'm saying.

[Oxfarm]

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

The FBI investigate suicides much??? Sure fella, he scrawled FED on his chest before he hung himself! How pathetic...

When a dead body is found on Federal land, the FBI tends to get involved.

Or did you miss that detail?

[Pico+Barrington Collective]

I concur. Definitely not a suicide. Tragic that such hate still exist.

Originally Posted by MiddleOfNowhere

Yeah, I suppose he *could* have hung himself and written "fed" on his own chest, but does that honestly sound like the more likely possibility?

[tooweirdtolivetooraretodie]

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

Some Right Wingers just won't admit that their media leaders incessant and constant hate speech WILL incite dumbfucks to act out violence. The more responsible Right Wingers can clearly see this, and attempt to distance themselves from it.

So are you saying that one persons right to speech, or a media outlets choice to air certain speech, should therefore be abridged because of what some "dumbfucks" will do? We cannot stop all badness and bad acts, laws are there to punish such bad acts. Punishing the possibility of some "dumbfuck" misinterpreting you would be censorship of the worst kind. That would be like saying that the Beatles should be held accountable for inciting Charles Manson, he did after all cite them as his main inspiration at the time.

[VooDoo Chile]

Originally Posted by Oxfarm

What I said was, nobody even knows what happened yet. This is the direct quote from the Associated Press article:

"Investigators are still trying to determine whether the death was a killing or a suicide, and if a killing, whether the motive was related to his government job or to anti-government sentiment."

You guys need to mellow out and not assign blame before the facts come out, or slander people who don't share your beliefs. It's foolhardy is all I'm saying.

Yeah, you're like so totally right. I'm sure the violent death of a census bureau employee is entirely unrelated to Glenn Beck and Michele Bachmann's utterly bizzare and baseless rhetorical war against the U.S. census bureau. Ya know, the one that's been going on for the past 8 months or so.

[VooDoo Chile]

Originally Posted by tooweirdtolivetooraretodie

So are you saying that one persons right to speech, or a media outlets choice to air certain speech, should therefore be abridged because of what some "dumbfucks" will do? We cannot stop all badness and bad acts, laws are there to punish such bad acts. Punishing the possibility of some "dumbfuck" misinterpreting you would be censorship of the worst kind. That would be like saying that the Beatles should be held accountable for inciting Charles Manson, he did after all cite them as his main inspiration at the time.

When did BB even remotely imply that censorship should be employed as a remedy?

[BrattonBasher]

Originally Posted by Oxfarm

When a dead body is found on Federal land, the FBI tends to get involved.

Or did you miss that detail?

And I guess you missed the part where law enforcement told Census it was a probable homicide. Suicide investigations don't take two weeks and involve the FBI last time I checked. Keep sticking that head in the sand, you and the RNC. What is your number when you will see this is a problem, one or two more? The radio jocks are not going to stop till someone of leadership in the Republican Party finally takes a stand. Oh yeah, the radio jocks ARE the leadership...

[BrattonBasher]

Originally Posted by tooweirdtolivetooraretodie

So are you saying that one persons right to speech, or a media outlets choice to air certain speech, should therefore be abridged because of what some "dumbfucks" will do? We cannot stop all badness and bad acts, laws are there to punish such bad acts. Punishing the possibility of some "dumbfuck" misinterpreting you would be censorship of the worst kind. That would be like saying that the Beatles should be held accountable for inciting Charles Manson, he did after all cite them as his main inspiration at the time.

You ever listen to Mark Levin? Rush Limbaugh? Michael Savage? Try it. I'm not for censorship in any way. I'm for discourse, civil discourse. If the Republican Party does not denounce the extremists within, they will become like them.

[tooweirdtolivetooraretodie]

Originally Posted by VooDoo Chile

When did BB even remotely imply that censorship should be employed as a remedy?

Did you notice the question mark at the end of the sentence ? Like as if I were asking if that was what he was proposing. Punctuation, there for more than just it's good looks.

[tooweirdtolivetooraretodie]

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

You ever listen to Mark Levin? Rush Limbaugh? Michael Savage? Try it. I'm not for censorship in any way. I'm for discourse, civil discourse. If the Republican Party does not denounce the extremists within, they will become like them.

I have heard them and much like the root canal I got, I can only hope that it never happens again. Both sides have radical extremes, guess we have to hope against hope that the majority of people, regardless of political affiliation, manage to keep their wits about them and see the nonsensical ranting of lunatics, jesters and talk show hosts for the fodder that it is. Granted, there's always gonna be a few dumbfucks in the bunch, in any bunch, whatever bunch. Live long enough, see enough of these in action and you start to argue the pros and cons of eugenics. Er....maybe that's just me?

[VooDoo Chile]

Originally Posted by tooweirdtolivetooraretodie

Did you notice the question mark at the end of the sentence ? Like as if I were asking if that was what he was proposing. Punctuation, there for more than just it's good looks.

Don't you mean "its" looks as opposed to what you wrote: "it's" as in "it is"?

[VooDoo Chile]

Originally Posted by tooweirdtolivetooraretodie

I have heard them and much like the root canal I got, I can only hope that it never happens again. Both sides have radical extremes, guess we have to hope against hope that the majority of people, regardless of political affiliation, manage to keep their wits about them and see the nonsensical ranting of lunatics, jesters and talk show hosts for the fodder that it is. Granted, there's always gonna be a few dumbfucks in the bunch, in any bunch, whatever bunch. Live long enough, see enough of these in action and you start to argue the pros and cons of eugenics. Er....maybe that's just me?

You and the rest of the rich folks in Pasadena.

[BrattonBasher]

Originally Posted by tooweirdtolivetooraretodie

I have heard them and much like the root canal I got, I can only hope that it never happens again. Both sides have radical extremes, guess we have to hope against hope that the majority of people, regardless of political affiliation, manage to keep their wits about them and see the nonsensical ranting of lunatics, jesters and talk show hosts for the fodder that it is. Granted, there's always gonna be a few dumbfucks in the bunch, in any bunch, whatever bunch. Live long enough, see enough of these in action and you start to argue the pros and cons of eugenics. Er....maybe that's just me?

They don't. They look to these radio jocks as leaders. They spew hate, and most importantly, half-truths and lies. They demonize the Federal Government to these people. And then in real life they run across actual Federal employees like this poor fella, and act out. Some lunatic killed police officers in Pittsburgh because he was ginned up to believe Obama is coming for his guns. Bill O'Rielly all but called for the death of Dr. Tiller the abortion doctor who was murdered. Yes, there are radicals on both sides, but have you heard Rachel Maddow incite people? Radical leftists rarely even own guns.

[Au_Hunter]

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

They don't. They look to these radio jocks as leaders. They spew hate, and most importantly, half-truths and lies. They demonize the Federal Government to these people. And then in real life they run across actual Federal employees like this poor fella, and act out. Some lunatic killed police officers in Pittsburgh because he was ginned up to believe Obama is coming for his guns. Bill O'Rielly all but called for the death of Dr. Tiller the abortion doctor who was murdered. Yes, there are radicals on both sides, but have you heard Rachel Maddow incite people? Radical leftists rarely even own guns.

Which "right wing" talk show host incited ALF/ELF, The Weather Underground, SLA who did use guns?

Funny you weren't concerned about hate speech from the left for the last eight years.

Yes, and once again who doesn't think as you is how did you word that?

Some Right Wingers just won't admit that their media leaders incessant and constant hate speech WILL incite dumbfucks to act out violence. The more responsible Right Wingers can clearly see this, and attempt to distance themselves from it.

So, if I don't agree I'm "irresponsible"...

I knew the new rules about civility wouldn't last... Too bad cause I was just beginning to enjoy posting here again.

[gopers]

Yes Au, if we "disagree" we are haters or racist. SAD
So, I guess I hate my mixed race grandchildren and son-in-laws?

So, when a street vendor, who is black, is beaten up by union thugs, because he was selling "Don't tread on me" materials,at a town hall meeting, is not a turned table, I guess the people who dissagree with you are the rule makers.

How about the guy at another town hall meeting where his finger was bitten off by someone who dissagreed with him? Of course the guy doing the biting was for government health care.

So, what gives?

[ladyknight]

Keep it Civil or I close it

[BrattonBasher]

Originally Posted by Au_Hunter

Which "right wing" talk show host incited ELF, Thw Weather Underground, SLA who did use guns?

Funny you weren't concerned about hate speech from the left for the last eight years.

Yes, and once again who doesn't think as you is how did you word that?



So, if I don't agree I'm "irresponsible"...

I knew the new rules about civility wouldn't last... Too bad cause I was just beginning to enjoy posting here again.

Bullshit overseas wars incited the Weather Underground, but violence was and is NEVER justified. To suggest I endorse violence or discount violence in any way done by anyone is bullshit and you know it. SLA? They robbed fucking banks and kidnapped people, they were left wing??? ELF was a funny movie with Will Ferrel.

"Hate speech from the left the last eight years". That was based on bullshit overseas wars. Any violence associated with that? I don't think so but let me know if there was any. I abhor violence.

I post my opinions. If you want to take personal umbrage and be offended, go right ahead. You know these opinions are not personal. Obviously I hit a nerve with you, thats good. You are right to feel uncomfortable about this.

[BrattonBasher]

Originally Posted by gopers

Yes Au, if we "disagree" we are haters or racist. SAD
So, I guess I hate my mixed race grandchildren and son-in-laws?

So, when a street vendor, who is black, is beaten up by union thugs, because he was selling "Don't tread on me" materials,at a town hall meeting, is not a turned table, I guess the people who dissagree with you are the rule makers.

How about the guy at another town hall meeting where his finger was bitten off by someone who dissagreed with him? Of course the guy doing the biting was for government health care.

So, what gives?

C'mon Gopers, why imply I said that when you know I did not.

[tooweirdtolivetooraretodie]

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

They don't. They look to these radio jocks as leaders. They spew hate, and most importantly, half-truths and lies. They demonize the Federal Government to these people. And then in real life they run across actual Federal employees like this poor fella, and act out. Some lunatic killed police officers in Pittsburgh because he was ginned up to believe Obama is coming for his guns. Bill O'Rielly all but called for the death of Dr. Tiller the abortion doctor who was murdered. Yes, there are radicals on both sides, but have you heard Rachel Maddow incite people? Radical leftists rarely even own guns.

The radical left can't incite people, listening to them is like listening to paint dry. Incite them, hell they can't even keep them awake. At least the far right are such clowns it can be amusing at times.