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| Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana I got caught high on **** back in 02, havent ever done it since but according to the man and the courts I have to pay $400 for a drug program. Luckily, I presented my mmj note TO THE COURTS before I was entered into the diversion, so the drug program has to honor it (w/o any problems whatsoever) and they are, which is totally cool. They gave me some shit about it though, and I could tell they were against it - but what can they do? It's state law. The counselor did say something about federal intervention in the courts but I think he's full of it , to be blunt. If anyone agrees with him though, let me know !! My advice to anyone facing a diversion is to show the note to the courts before you enter, or you could be disqualified or run into problems! My drug counselor was kind of angered inside (I could tell) that I was able to get away with testing positive for THC, but I reassured them I am serious about my program and promised to never show up under the influence as they requested or disrupt any other people's programs by mentioning it. They photocopied it for their records of course. He was going to drug test me at first, but decided not to and he said he could tell I am genuine about my recovery. Last edited by kinesis; 11-19-2006 at 04:24 PM.. |
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| Mr. Sulu, set course for the Romulan. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: sfv Co-Op: non Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 14 | Re: Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana Big ups for getting of the meth. I have had a few friends who have not made that wise decision. Also big ups for getting your prop215 respected. |
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| Raising Eyebrows and Lowering Standards Since 1979 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Co-Op: No Vendor: yes Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 29 | Re: Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana Quote:
Thanks for sharing. This is really good to know.. | |
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| Growing Is Not A Crime Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Riverside Co-Op: No Vendor: No Patient: Yes
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Rep Power: 14 | Re: Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana Ive Got To Take PC100 For An Old Cultivation Charge.......I Was Actiaully Growing Peyote Which Comes With A 2 Year Prison Term But My Laywer Got Them To Charge With With Cultivation Of Marijuana Instead And For This I Was Given PC1000 Which To My Understanding Is One Steap Down From Prop 36 I Still Don't Fully Understand How Things Are Gonna Work With Drug Testing And All But After Reading This I Will Deffiently Be Perstiant About My Medical Condition And Hopefully They Will Show Me The Same Understanding They Have Showed You...........Good Luck With The Program And Props To Getting Of The Meth |
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| Established Patient Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Long Beach, CA Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 0 | Re: Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana My friend was on PC1000 for Poss. of Methamphetamine and he failed his drug test for THC. He took his papers into the court, and the judge denied it, basically saying it was only for like cancer patients and the like. I think you got lucky. This was Orange County BTW. |
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| Living LIFE ; ) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: BurB... Co-Op: NO Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 13 | I am amazed and' Props to you ' but I don't know if this apllies to everyone..... |
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| Theories dont kill Join Date: Nov 2006 Co-Op: no Vendor: No Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 13 | Re: Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana yeah man, props. shook the dope and you were respected by "the man." keep going strong. |
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| Re: Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana I fear on a technicality, that one of my summary probation terms were 'Will not use drugs not prescribed' - Technically marijuana is not prescribed because it's Schedule I, it's recommended. Do you think I will be in trouble - or does STATE LAW supercede this clause? |
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| Raising Eyebrows and Lowering Standards Since 1979 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Co-Op: No Vendor: yes Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 29 | Re: Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana Quote:
Get an attendance card started and go to AA or NA meetings. Get the card signed by the secretary. Do at least 5 meetings a week between now and court dates. I have a lawyer friend who was busted for DUI. He advises all his clients to do the meeting thing, if they have been charged with anything related to alcohol or drugs. He is doing the meeting thing himself, for the same reason he advises his clients. Especially when the meeting attendance is initiated by the accused rather than ordered by the courts.. when you voluntarily take yourself there and show a record of consistent attendance on your own intuition and initiative.. it works very well in your favor before the judge.. especially in this state for first-time offenders. | |
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| I am Here Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: a Bay Area boy Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 101 | Prop 36 is really cool. Prop 36 will handle any kind of Drugs. California has had a "Diversion" program for many years. The DA agrees to allow a Defendant to dismiss the case, after he is "good" for a while. A few Drug-Awareness classes, and a few "clean" piss tests, and "Case Dismissed." This procedure could be used MANY times by a particular Druggie (especially with a good attorney). Prop 36 is a law which REQUIRES the Judge to allow a person into Diversion. I could have several Drugs: Too much Med Pot; Coke; Meth; and Heroin. As long as I am NOT selling Drugs, I automatically qualify. This is a gold-plated Get-Out-of-Jail-Free card. It can be used ONCE (so don't waste it). The title of this Thread is: "Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana." When a person is in Diversion, the Judge can impose "conditions"; one of them is: Don't FLUNK any of your piss tests. A valid Med Pot Patient is California-approved to medicate himself. So, once you prove that you're a Patient (an original Recommendation), a Pot-flunk is OK. Yeah, thanks to Prop 215, a Patient is allowed to take his legal medicine. Every day, I am grateful to the citizens of California, for their generosity. |
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| WT Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Central Valley, Ca Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 1699 | hey,there, glad you got off the meth too that shit is badddd news. i've been off it for gosh i can't even really remember how long, atleast 8 years now, but the shit got me anyway, i've got hepc and i am in instage liver failure, so big props to you!!, i'm always happy if someone get away with some of their skin left intact from serious drug addiction, anyway i got that drug devertion,and man it took me forever,but that was like years ago, but they ended up takeing some drug groups from mental health instead and that shit was way worse than if iwould of tough it out in court,anyway it's good to hear someone doing good!!! thats great!!! their's too much bad shit you know!! lol endlessky |
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| Marijuana Connoisseur Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: In The Valley Co-Op: No Vendor: No Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 32 | Re: Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana Actually I heard that "Diversion" works twice. Hopefully I never have to use this, but I'm so thankful for Prop.36 being instated. |
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| r-e-s-p-e-c-t Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: WHITTIER Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 13 | i went trough pc 1000 5 years ago it was 1st time offense and no priors . i finished my diversion program which was classes one a week and paid for them also had to pass random drug testing which i passed due to the fact i was not doing any form of drug for those 6 months , then i got my rec for medical reasons . last year the charges were dismissed , so i am also grateful for the diversion program but about prop 36 this is for 2nd time offenders . are you sure you want to risk this last oppurtunity . ask your councelour if he will let you know ahead of time if he is only going to test you on your exit interview and maybe you can just stop smoking for the last month ..... just a thought .... good luck with everything |
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| shoot from the hip Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: OC Co-Op: no Vendor: NO Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 13 | Re: Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana grats man! |
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| High, I'm New Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: san clemente, ca Co-Op: No Vendor: no Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 0 | prop 36 is a JOKE. They kept me on probation for 5 years in a dual diagnosis program. And after 3 and a half years clean, I smoked pot again, (ah, relief) They had me so stressed out. They sanctioned me for positive THC, 3 or 4 times, and finally I opted out of Prop 36, had to do 60 days in jail. But now I have a new P.O. and am on regular probation, I got my medical cannibas prescription. And now I can smoke my meds, instead of all the psychotropics they had me on. It works so much better for me...... And O.C. Probation is honoring it... YEAH |
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| Raising Eyebrows and Lowering Standards Since 1979 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Co-Op: No Vendor: yes Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 29 | Re: Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana Quote:
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| WT Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Co-Op: no Vendor: yes Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 10 | Re: Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana I have done all but one month of my pc1000 diversion program (discharge date: 11/27/07 in LA for a heroin bust with full judicial, legal, and program respect and consent of my prop.215 certified rights...and I am a methadone patient; which they were cool with too. Much repect to my judge who also gave me the time support I needed to actually DO IT FOR REAL. I have been happily clean for a year Dec. 1st. Part of what made me and heroin such a bad combo is my CHRONIC PAIN from IBS thankfully for which MMJ has relieved MOST SYMPTOMS OF, not just the most severe forms of ACUTE PAIN. I was flabergasted to say the least when I discovered this particular FACT was applicable to my specific case too. Dabbling with pot in high school, I discovered I wasn't too fond of its high but found its effect on my stomach to be most pleasing. Well, it's effect on my well-being (due to my nievete in its use) ended up out weighing the beneifits to my stomach; causing me to more or less abstain from it until very recently. Once I was off the dope, I found myself dealing with pain not felt since before heroin; much to my suprise, since I was a methadone patient by this time. After receiving another referral to yet another doctor, I finally found my way to MMJ after he concluded that it was the safest and most effective treatment for my problem. However I cited my experiences as to why I would hesitate. He then explained to me how easy it is to not only find what works for you in a MMJ scene the size of LA's. And above all, that one has the power to ingest cannabis through any of a variety of safe methods that helps them achieve their desired state. Well needless to say, I'm a beleiver and a supporter who probaly would still be doing SOMETHING ELSE had I not received the blessing of our sacred herb. |
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| ??????? Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: L.A Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES
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Rep Power: 11 | Re: Prop 36 + Medical Marijuana i have personally seen a judge oder someone on prop 36 who had a card to get his prescriptions changed from marijuana to non narcotic pain releivers. according to the judge becuse prop 36 must refrain from any/all illegal drugs. that was about 2 years ago. the guy had already switched his meds(to pills) and the judge said to keep it that way and threatened to lock him up if he tested dirty. then again thats the judge that wanted to break me off for violating my prop 36 and give me 18+ months in jail. You can get prop 36 more than once. i have met/know people who have had it more than once ,twice even. i have also seen my probation officer(at he time) honor a MMJ card no problem\ he just asked for it so he could copy it and put it in his file(this guy was not on prop 36. bottom line: Prop 36= get out of jail for selling your soul to the devil himself the court system. than they waste tax payers money to test you weekly. then one day come and kick your door down(10 cops+) and take you to jail for an amount of MJ the size of a popcorn. yeah that's part of my story. |
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| WT Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Co-Op: no Vendor: yes Patient: yes
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Rep Power: 10 | I finish my pc1000 weekly class on Nov. 27 of this year (Dec. 5 is my expungement date since I have no prior or other legal problems). I'm on methadone maintenence and medical mmj which my judge and program completely repected after seeing my scripts upon beginning my case and intake. They never once have given me any sort of grief or even a snide or sarcastic reference to them. Busted for chiva in 06; clean since Nov. of that year and IBS is progressively getting better. |
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