[Leosyndicate]

I never saw this coming, but I should have.. It's my fault, even though the problem is something that should not exist...

On Monday I posted this thread:

http://weedtracker.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18458

It details what I did over the weekend for charity.. I had written a poem that was going to be hung up in a building, dedicated to helping poor families.

As much as I wanted to share what was going on with the WT community, I should never have posted information on the organzation I was working with or the city that this project was for...

Apparently, the charity's web-site was hit with a lot of people who linked to it from WT. Had I been more savvy, I might have realized how this could cause problems. Furthermore, someone from here may have contacted the organization or the city directly... I'm still trying to find that out.. but I don't know for sure.

Unfortunately, the government was watching and tracking everything. Perhaps they saw my post and have taken action without traffic at the charity's site increasing.. How can I know for sure? Maybe the high traffic bit was just an excuse. God Damned Patriot Act!! They shouldn't have been watching what site people linked from or whether they were on activist lists in the first place.. Stay out of our lives!!!! I didn't know this before, but this charity organization is publicly funded and therefore has to avoid affiliating themselves with anything the government is opposed to.. Medical Marijuana, as if we didn't already know, is high up on that list.

Before I had even gotten the chance to meet the director of this organization.. Before she even knew my name.. Before she had seen the poem.. Before I had even begun work on the framing part of the project... Before the damn thing ever got to see light from the wall on which it was to hang, the organization was told by the feds or the LEOs or the DEA, idk I have no details... to not let my work hang up in their building... To stop talking to me... oh and by the way, little non-profit org... "Does your charity support Medical Marijuana?? tsk tsk..."

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And so I'm cut off.. the poem and project I spent good amounts of time and money on, completely pro-bono, has been cancelled... and I'm being watched.. and they are reading this post right now and everything else I've written.. They had a thick file on me.. AND I WON'T HIDE!! you hear me!? If it is somehow in the best interest of Uncle Sam to whom I have faithfully paid my taxes ever since before I could even drive... to follow me around.. snapping pictures.. taking notes.. to block me from being charitable.. to blacklist me and keep me from doing good in the world outside the MMj community.. to hell... eventually lock me up for one thing or another which I'm sure you someday will... so be it.. No good deed goes unpunished...

When this kind of charade takes place it is way beyond a civil rights violation. I take it personally. I hope you snooping ***** sleep well tonight, celebrating your Sweeping Victory in defeat of local Sick & Starving Children who might be your neighbors, cousins.. best friends, if you would let 'em. Because that's who you've really defeated here... not some pot-smoking poet who nurses his back spasms, insomnia, and depression the best way he can, and who had absolutely no agenda to push or flag to wave... Who just wanted to do good works... In blocking me, all you've done is harm those whom I was trying to help.

I'm crushed. disappointed.. I have defended the factions of society who are against Medical Marijuana. I have preached the ideas that our best course of action is to do what we can to bring opposing forces together.. To become a productive component of society.. To be admirable upstanding citizens.. I have even spoken in defense of LEO and the DEA, they're just doing their jobs after all, right? Well tell me how what has been done to me in this case fits into your employee welcome packet!! I really want to know!!

PLEASE!!!! Nobody here contact the charity I was working with.. This matter is out of their hands. Because of who they are and what they do, they can't be affiliated with Medical Marijuana and I completely understand why. I had no desire to affiliate them in the first place. I bear them no ill will for this. I have removed their link, name, and the city's name from my original post. I have sent a letter to the director, whom to this day I still have not ever met or spoken to, aplogizing for the mess this has caused.. Apologizing because I did not intend this to happen and I don't blame them for the madness that now parades around as sanity..

[labrat]

hey bro bummer what do you mean they have a thick file on you ??? shit hate to see mine!!

[labrat]

Originally Posted by Leosyndicate

I never saw this coming, but I should have.. It's my fault, even though the problem is something that should not exist...

On Monday I posted this thread:

http://weedtracker.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18458

It details what I did over the weekend for charity.. I had written a poem that was going to be hung up in a building, dedicated to helping poor families.

As much as I wanted to share what was going on with the WT community, I should never have posted information on the organzation I was working with or the city that this project was for...

Apparently, the charity's web-site was hit with a lot of people who linked to it from WT. Had I been more savvy, I might have realized how this could cause problems. Furthermore, someone from here may have contacted the organization or the city directly... I'm still trying to find that out.. but I don't know for sure.

Unfortunately, the government was watching and tracking everything. Perhaps they saw my post and have taken action without traffic at the charity's site increasing.. How can I know for sure? Maybe the high traffic bit was just an excuse. God Damned Patriot Act!! They shouldn't have been watching what site people linked from or whether they were on activist lists in the first place.. Stay out of our lives!!!! I didn't know this before, but this charity organization is publicly funded and therefore has to avoid affiliating themselves with anything the government is opposed to.. Medical Marijuana, as if we didn't already know, is high up on that list.

Before I had even gotten the chance to meet the director of this organization.. Before she even knew my name.. Before she had seen the poem.. Before I had even begun work on the framing part of the project... Before the damn thing ever got to see light from the wall on which it was to hang, the organization was told by the feds or the LEOs or the DEA, idk I have no details... to not let my work hang up in their building... To stop talking to me... oh and by the way, little non-profit org... "Does your charity support Medical Marijuana?? tsk tsk..."

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And so I'm cut off.. the poem and project I spent good amounts of time and money on, completely pro-bono, has been cancelled... and I'm being watched.. and they are reading this post right now and everything else I've written.. They had a thick file on me.. AND I WON'T HIDE!! you hear me!? If it is somehow in the best interest of Uncle Sam to whom I have faithfully paid my taxes ever since before I could even drive... to follow me around.. snapping pictures.. taking notes.. to block me from being charitable.. to blacklist me and keep me from doing good in the world outside the MMj community.. to hell... eventually lock me up for one thing or another which I'm sure you someday will... so be it.. No good deed goes unpunished...

When this kind of charade takes place it is way beyond a civil rights violation. I take it personally. I hope you snooping ***** sleep well tonight, celebrating your Sweeping Victory in defeat of local Sick & Starving Children who might be your neighbors, cousins.. best friends, if you would let 'em. Because that's who you've really defeated here... not some pot-smoking poet who nurses his back spasms, insomnia, and depression the best way he can, and who had absolutely no agenda to push or flag to wave... Who just wanted to do good works... In blocking me, all you've done is harm those whom I was trying to help.

I'm crushed. disappointed.. I have defended the factions of society who are against Medical Marijuana. I have preached the ideas that our best course of action is to do what we can to bring opposing forces together.. To become a productive component of society.. To be admirable upstanding citizens.. I have even spoken in defense of LEO and the DEA, they're just doing their jobs after all, right? Well tell me how what has been done to me in this case fits into your employee welcome packet!! I really want to know!!

PLEASE!!!! Nobody here contact the charity I was working with.. This matter is out of their hands. Because of who they are and what they do, they can't be affiliated with Medical Marijuana and I completely understand why. I had no desire to affiliate them in the first place. I bear them no ill will for this. I have removed their link, name, and the city's name from my original post. I have sent a letter to the director, whom to this day I still have not ever met or spoken to, aplogizing for the mess this has caused.. Apologizing because I did not intend this to happen and I don't blame them for the madness that now parades around as sanity..

bro i feel for you !!!and iam sure many others do ya it was bad judgement on your part (its a shame) man there are many scandalous mo fos on the leark ,gotta keep that guard up ,that why i try not to get involved in too much mmj activity .dont get me wrong many good people on this site,but what a shame !! what the fuk do i know !! just my opinion peace lab rat

[Leosyndicate]

Originally Posted by labrat

hey bro bummer what do you mean they have a thick file on you ??? shit hate to see mine!!

This is hearsay.. I have not seen it. Supposedly the cop organization came to the charity with a thick file of printouts of what I've posted here, and on myspace, and other logs of my movement on the nets.. They had pictures of me, but those could have easily been pulled off the web. Since I haven't seen the file, only been told that it was thick, I cannot at this time confirm whether or not they have dirt on me that isn't easily available.. But apparently, they had put some time into it.. I guess they had a lot of stuff..

But when targeting this activist, they barked up the wrong tree. I'm squeaky clean. They'd have to overturn state law to accuse me of a crime. Most of what I put up on the net is poetry, philosophy, my thoughts on things.. any mention of criminal activity is retrospective... long since passed... posted way after the fact. I'm law abiding these days, whether or not I agree with the law in question.

WT is high on their list. They are always watching this site. Anybody who is prolific on WT is someone they are paying attention to. They know who I am. They watch my activities because I post a lot on WT. The correlation is direct.

Doesn't matter. I'm not going anywhere.. It may be to my peril eventually, but I won't be bullied by this crap...

[resipsa]

Oh Leo, as tragic as this all is, if it was really going to be a problem for the charity, I have to say better it happened earlier than later.

You didn't do anything wrong, and I'd suggest you contact a lawyer. This kind of sounds like an indirect abuse of process and I'm sort of wondering if it isn't something that shouldn't be addressed legally.

You do have the right to speak your mind, last time I checked we all still had that right.

Both CPG and LAPCG hang their patient's work. Perhaps your poem could hang there for awhile?

[labrat]

shit somthing stinky to me!!!!!!! peace lab rat

[Capt. Zigzag]

Originally Posted by resipsa

Oh Leo, as tragic as this all is, if it was really going to be a problem for the charity, I have to say better it happened earlier than later.

You didn't do anything wrong, and I'd suggest you contact a lawyer. This kind of sounds like an indirect abuse of process and I'm sort of wondering if it isn't something that shouldn't be addressed legally.

You do have the right to speak your mind, last time I checked we all still had that right.

Both CPG and LAPCG hang their patient's work. Perhaps your poem could hang there for awhile?

To speak, yes. But if they can show affiliations then they can hammer the NPO.

Clinton had most all of his political opponents audited by the IRS. If they can hang a fingernail on it, it's theirs.

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[weedtracker]

thats what you get for giving up your personal information onine. you gave away who you are and what you did and who you work for, its your own fault, dont try and blame us or some conspiracy.

dont try and blame us or some conspiracy.

Where does it say that?

Sorry to hear of this Leosyndicate......

Originally Posted by weedtracker

thats what you get for giving up your personal information onine. you gave away who you are and what you did and who you work for, its your own fault, dont try and blame us or some conspiracy.

*ahem*
I didn't see him blaming anyone other than himself and organizations that put pressure on the NPO to pull his project. I think he realizes he blew it by posting specific information regarding the project and where it was going, and is now paying a high price.
We learn from our mistakes, not our successes. Surely our compassion isn't limited to those who are in need of MMJ, but to those who are discriminated against because of it?
To the OP, my sympathies for the loss of the project with all the time/effort you had put into it. I have some familiarity with NPO's and understand their need to distance themselves from anything that might be detrimental to their cause. But it still sucks because your intentions were good. Hopefully, someday soon, the 'stigma' of MMJ will no longer be the issue it is. I'm praying for that because I hate the fact that we lose our 'credibility' because we medicate. :(
Keep your head up and next time you'll know better.
Don't give up :)

[eyecheewawa]

Originally Posted by weedtracker

thats what you get for giving up your personal information onine. you gave away who you are and what you did and who you work for, its your own fault, dont try and blame us or some conspiracy.

WTF?
This has been an informative and useful thread. My thanks to leosyndicate for this sharing this important imformation.

SMOTU

[nadimb]

% ing......

[Leosyndicate]

Originally Posted by resipsa

Oh Leo, as tragic as this all is, if it was really going to be a problem for the charity, I have to say better it happened earlier than later.

You are correct.. And I've thought the same thing.. There would be more trouble if the charity had to disavow associating with me after the project was completed and hung.

Originally Posted by resipsa

You didn't do anything wrong, and I'd suggest you contact a lawyer. This kind of sounds like an indirect abuse of process and I'm sort of wondering if it isn't something that shouldn't be addressed legally.

I probably should. I understand that my activities are being watched and that those who are watching may use things I've said against me. But that ability should be reserved for criminal investigations, not as a smear campaign. Only in an ideal world... I guess

Originally Posted by resipsa

You do have the right to speak your mind, last time I checked we all still had that right.

Both CPG and LAPCG hang their patient's work. Perhaps your poem could hang there for awhile?

It isn't whether my poem hangs or not that upset me. Thanks for the suggestions, but my anxst was based more on the principle of the thing than whether or not my work is shown. I'm probably most mad at myself for lack of foresight. The people who took this action against me are dedicated to doing what they can do to resist the MMj movement. I was naive to think they had no reason to come after me.

[Leosyndicate]

Originally Posted by weedtracker

thats what you get for giving up your personal information onine. you gave away who you are and what you did and who you work for, its your own fault, dont try and blame us or some conspiracy.

Is it your time of the month or something?

I didn't blame WT. I blamed myself.. more than once. And there is no conspiracy. This board is being watched. I am being watched because I post on this board. If you mean to say that I deserve to be attacked because I wasn't discreet enough with information about myself, I disagree. I may have inadvertently made myself an easier target, but what of my prior actions or words makes me deserving of attack of any sort?

If anything, my post should serve as a warning to others not to do make the same mistakes. Take it as you will, which you have done..

If my employer or any authority figure ever came to me to question my affiliation with MMj, I would be honest. I feel that it is hypocritical and too reminiscent of my addict years to attempt to live a lie. Maybe I was under the subconscious impression that because of my honesty policy, I was somewhat above reproach. Foolish assumption, I know. Consequence of being an idealist.

[Leosyndicate]

Originally Posted by TaZzXena

*ahem*
I didn't see him blaming anyone other than himself and organizations that put pressure on the NPO to pull his project. I think he realizes he blew it by posting specific information regarding the project and where it was going, and is now paying a high price.
We learn from our mistakes, not our successes. Surely our compassion isn't limited to those who are in need of MMJ, but to those who are discriminated against because of it?
To the OP, my sympathies for the loss of the project with all the time/effort you had put into it. I have some familiarity with NPO's and understand their need to distance themselves from anything that might be detrimental to their cause. But it still sucks because your intentions were good. Hopefully, someday soon, the 'stigma' of MMJ will no longer be the issue it is. I'm praying for that because I hate the fact that we lose our 'credibility' because we medicate. :(
Keep your head up and next time you'll know better.
Don't give up :)

Thank you for your kind encouragement!

[labrat]

^^^^ leo i think everybody has compassion and feels your hurt ,i think what some are trying to convay is not to give out your last name et.c,, its kool to be honest .but if you would loose your job if your bossconfronted you about MMJ.shit you should FIB its not really a lie !! its just a FIB! in the bible,hmmmmm i cant remember the verse off hand ,but it says its ok to fib!! i personaly dont like to FIB sometimes we must!! then ask for forgiveness peace lab rat

[Leosyndicate]

Originally Posted by labrat

^^^^ leo i think everybody has compassion and feels your hurt ,i think what some are trying to convay is not to give out your last name et.c,, its kool to be honest .but if you would loose your job if your bossconfronted you about MMJ.shit you should FIB its not really a lie !! its just a FIB! in the bible,hmmmmm i cant remember the verse off hand ,but it says its ok to fib!! i personaly dont like to FIB sometimes we must!! then ask for forgiveness peace lab rat

haha.. right on Labby.. If you do find such a verse, let me know.. Might make a good bumper sticker..

Yeah, lesson learned on the exposing of personal info.. Just because I wasn't paranoid before.. doesn't mean I was not being pursued. Maybe it's time to start covering my tracks.

Originally Posted by Leosyndicate

Thank you for your kind encouragement!

You're welcome...keep coming back :)

Originally Posted by Leosyndicate

Yeah, lesson learned on the exposing of personal info.. Just because I wasn't paranoid before.. doesn't mean I was not being pursued. Maybe it's time to start covering my tracks.

I laughed when I read this!
One of my favorite sayings to friends, especially those in recovery is:
"Just because you're not paranoid, DOESN'T mean everyone isn't out to get you.........."
Me...I've always believed the best defense is to be truly offensive.
But then again, I'd rather fight than eat

:::::::::doin the happy dance in San Diego because their
case is being tossed::::::::

Well since you have outed yourself (or been outed) you might as well go on.. Hell I would like to see them carry my file.. Do like Eddie Lepp and Marc Emery, If you are going to be out about MMJ then be OUT. Do like I do and always have Literature for peoples question and answer sessions. Prop 215 and SB 420 in Print or PDF file from my Treo. If we are going to go down for the Cause , might as well be with a Shout instead of a Whimper

[Capt. Zigzag]

I got news for you all. If they want to know who you are. They probably do. Takes em about an hour. They don't need your personal info. Just an IP. And a time of day.

You can't hide. No amount of repeating and annomous IP rerouting can hide the trail. Just a matter of how bad they want you.

You can't do it at the library anymore. They need your pic ID, and they have cameras.

The only way I can think of is to stealth off someone elses wireless connection. Or maybe an internet cafe. One without cameras and name registration. But if you do that, as soon as you plug in to your own connection. Bang, they got you. That's if they (their computer) has placed a nugget on your drive. And if your actions trigger a need to observe. BOOM.

Now I imagine if you're a big shot propeller head. You could hide from them. But let's face it. Most of us are sitting at home in our underwaer. 'Cept the Labster. He's buck ass nekid. He needs his underwear to cover his stash in the bottom of the hampster....... Uh Hamper.

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[BabyBoomer]

Originally Posted by Capt. Zigzag

......
Now I imagine if you're a big shot propeller head. You could hide from them. But let's face it. Most of us are sitting at home in our underwaer. 'Cept the Labster. He's buck ass nekid. He needs his underwear to cover his stash in the bottom of the hampster....... Uh Hamper.

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I laughed out loud so hard, the dogs woke up. You are a wit this morning, Capt. Great laugh to start off the day.



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[resipsa]

ZZ is right. We are hiding in plain sight.

Let's get the whole MM world on Weedtracker and then watch them try and make sense of us.

Let them go through a gazillion posts a day, most of which say stuff like "menu update please" and see if they don't decide pretty quickly that we're harmless.

I mean really, how much trouble can you be if you're a literary construct on a web site that's decated to sick people?

Christ on a bike, we're medicated. Messing with us is like shooting caged bunnies. We'd make some trouble but we're broke and our ride fell through. Feel free to go bust a meth lab. We'll still be here when you're done. Promise.

[Leosyndicate]

Steganography is the science of hiding one message inside another message - hiding in plain sight, so to speak. Think of steganography as the soft-spoken yet elegant sister of cryptography. Where cryptography scrambles a message to prevent unauthorized people from reading it, steganography opts instead to hide the message in such a way that it is not obvious that there is anything there to see.

To those reading over my shoulder: Have fun trying to decipher the subtlety within my obviousness, going forward.

[labrat]

shyt hholym bouy,ewe gott my voat!! culdnt uve sayed it bether!!! peace lab rat