[Nailhead]

I've been having a lot of anxiety, and while some strains don't exasperate the shortness of breath symptom, (which is the most common symptom I get), most of them do to some degree. I've had anxiety off and on for some time, but it's been kicking in a lot more lately and marijuana just doesn't help. I had some Grand Daddy Purple a while back that didn't seem to cause any problems, but I can't find that anymore so I need some advice. Some strains make it much worse, some don't bother it as much, but hopefully I can find something to balance that won't bother my anxiety, but will still help with crohn's.

I'm open to non-marijuana related treatments as well, cheaper the better

[Fussrgc]

Originally Posted by Nailhead

I've been having a lot of anxiety, and while some strains don't exasperate the shortness of breath symptom, (which is the most common symptom I get), most of them do to some degree. I've had anxiety off and on for some time, but it's been kicking in a lot more lately and marijuana just doesn't help. I had some Grand Daddy Purple a while back that didn't seem to cause any problems, but I can't find that anymore so I need some advice. Some strains make it much worse, some don't bother it as much, but hopefully I can find something to balance that won't bother my anxiety, but will still help with crohn's.

I'm open to non-marijuana related treatments as well, cheaper the better

Nailhead,

Let me first preface this by saying I am no doctor, but historically the Purple's do tend to have a more calming effect. I too have found GDP to be a good remedy, but you are correct in that it is not always in abundant supply. That said I tend to gravitate to what we have historically known as Indica's and regretfully avoid most of what we have referred to as Sativa's. There is a more accurate vernacular description for strain classifications, which CRC utilizes but for the life of me I am constantly getting twisted. Without fail one of the brethren will follow up with for clarification. In terms of CRC offered strains that I have had positive experiences with, I enclose the following:
Affie - Usually in stock, high CDB content that has a bit of a creeper effect to it but leaves me with a calm and level headed high.
GP - Not always available, and I believe derived from GDP genetics giving one a classic GDP like experience.
Ingrid - Have not seen her in a while, but a real nice relaxed all body effect. Think of the flower equivalent of a really nice bottle of Pinot with some friends.
Purple Master Kush - not always available, but a nice euphoria followed by a relaxed body high.
Purple Kush - Similar to the Purple Master in taste and effect.
Bubba Kush - both the "Head stash" and lovely K2, neither of which may be in stock anymore but both were very effective at allowing me to just chill and turn the "valve" reactive mind off.
Pure Kush - May still be in stock, very nice indoor that has a great cerebral quality yet physically relaxing.
OG Kush - Cornerstone consistently leads the way for OG offerings. Of the recent vintage OG2 is usually a constant staple, but previous offerings that were very effective for me were the Tahoe, K-OG, and the 420 OG.
Silk - Master Kush backcross and somewhat of a periodic special offering, but used responsibly can be a heavy medicating (analgesia) with an occasional disassociative quality. Silk like all Cornerstone meds appears to have a high THC concentration, so tread lightly.
The main thing is to establish a point of medication to where your body and mind can come together in a place of unison that is comfortable for you.
It is best when starting out to even "under-medicate" while you are attempting to establish a dosage level that is both manageable and effective in providing remedy for your ailments. I have found that "over-medicating" can cause my mind to open up that well, which inevitably leads to a state of reflective struggle as I am attempting to process the THC delivery to my system.
I encourage you to speak with Morpheus on your next trip as he is not only a pleasure to interact with but also retains a certain Shaman like status in terms of cannabis knowledge, and the related psychological/physical effects
that can be catalyzed by MMJ Usage. In addition Mercedes is typically spot on with her recommendations, and Ms. Simone "A" is very helpful with giving personal feedback on their in stock offerings.
Last but not least read all the reviews you can find (previous threads) by CrescentFresh, and feel free to PM other CRC Forum contributors. You will not find a cooler more caring group of people anywhere else on the Weed tracker site.
In summary marijuana is a tool for the relief of pain, nausea, and a myriad of other health related issues, but also a catalyst for rediscovery of the beauty within all of us that the system and environmental forces have attempted to eradicate.
Go slowly but embrace it as a positive resource for self rediscovery, and allow it to be the guide to illustrate what is good within you and your life.

Peace and Blessings,

On behalf of the CRC Community.

[The Axis]

Hey Nail,

I would also encourage you to speak directly with Morpheus, as his knowledge is like a fountain, just overflowing with great info. I was at CRC today, and I know that I saw Bubba, which I would think is a great candidate for your needs. To follow up the previous post, the meds at CRC are surely top flight, the best I've ever seen, and while they, like most of today's meds, can be considered "strong" by old school standards, I've never once felt racy or anxious on any of their meds...although I do seem to stick mostly with the indica/afghanica strains as opposed to the sativa's (although that CHEESE kicks *ss, and I think it's sativa-dom). I think that the quality of CRC meds is such that you may experience less anxiety with their meds in general than you might with lesser quality meds found at other clubs.

Some of the meds I have really enjoyed at CRC include: GP, Purple Master, K2, K-OG, Silk, Cheese, OG2, Affie, M-OG, Bubba, Ingrid and not a single one of these has been racy or anxiety-prone. Your mileage may vary, of course, but I would encourage you to visit CRC and speak directly with Morpheus, Mercedes or Symone (sp?). They will all be most helpful.

Good luck with your search and let us know how it works out!

[morpheus]

We're not physicians. Anxiety is a complex condition and can also be a symptom of another medical condition, so it's best to visit a doctor and get it checked out. THC can encourage or precipitate anxiety, even if you're normally not prone to it. If you're experiencing shortness of breath, you need to immediately see a doctor. Period. I wish I could say smoke some XXXXX and it will go away, but that would be irresponsible.

--morpheus
Cornerstone Research

[labrat]

Originally Posted by morpheus

We're not physicians. Anxiety is a complex condition and can also be a symptom of another medical condition, so it's best to visit a doctor and get it checked out. THC can encourage or precipitate anxiety, even if you're normally not prone to it. If you're experiencing shortness of breath, you need to immediately see a doctor. Period. I wish I could say smoke some XXXXX and it will go away, but that would be irresponsible.

--morpheus
Cornerstone Research

i agree totaly in my case my anxiety is brought on by other medical conditions !!! and i havent found a strain to ease it !! i take very few pharms !! but Xanex is a must for me!! peace lab rat!!! just remember MMJ isnt the answer to all our medical problems!!

[silvercloud]

Originally Posted by labrat

i agree totaly in my case my anxiety is brought on by other medical conditions !!! and i havent found a strain to ease it !! i take very few pharms !! but Xanex is a must for me!! peace lab rat!!! just remember MMJ isnt the answer to all our medical problems!!

Anxiety can be 'precursor' to many conditions ,should be 'handled' preferrably w/o pharma ... personally found 'ingrid/bluedream via thirdeye' will leave ya 'xanax free' ,producing a 'mellow/dreamlike' environment while maintaining 'crystal clarity' (3rdeye) w/o feeling 'any' pain... that is all .....

[BrattonBasher]

Originally Posted by labrat

i agree totaly in my case my anxiety is brought on by other medical conditions !!! and i havent found a strain to ease it !! i take very few pharms !! but Xanex is a must for me!! peace lab rat!!! just remember MMJ isnt the answer to all our medical problems!!

Important words! Way too many Weedtrackers think MMJ is the cure-all for everything. It is not.

[Nailhead]

A doctor's visit is out of the question, I don't have health insurance or the money to pay for the visit up front. But I'm really not worried too much about it, I was more worried when I didn't know it was anxiety and I thought it was asthma, but I know it isn't that. It's not serious or life threatening, more of an annoyance and I've noticed some strains make it worse with just a few puffs.

I'm not expecting a cure for anxiety, but just something that will better deal with it's symptoms. I know what is causing it, but I don't have a lot of control over that, at least for now, so all I can do is get information on how to handle the symptoms. Any information given in this thread is appreciated.

Blue Dream from CRC is the most anti-anxiety medicine that I have found to be most affective for me. We are all different, so I would recommend trying a couple of small hits at first, and see if your anxiety calms down. I agree with Morpheus and Labrat's posts as well. As much as I would like to think mmj will take care of all my ailments it does not. Let us know how it works out for you.

Best,
pic4daze

[LOSERJR1]

Originally Posted by labrat

just remember MMJ isnt the answer to all our medical problems!!

Labby, good to see you on CRC's forum. Too bad you live so far away, because I think you would love CRC & the staff.

[labrat]

Originally Posted by LOSERJR1

Labby, good to see you on CRC's forum. Too bad you live so far away, because I think you would love CRC & the staff.

alot of good things said about CRC sounds like a top notch co op that also gives us patients some positive input here on WT hopefully ill make it by soon!!! hell i was raised on the AVE,s (a toe head to boot) peace keep the luv flowing!! peace lab rat

[Nailhead]

So what strains should I avoid? Any tips on what type of strains I should be focusing on? And again, if you have any advice for cheap, non-medical marijuana treatments or suggestions I'm all ears, (or eyes).

[labrat]

Originally Posted by Nailhead

So what strains should I avoid? Any tips on what type of strains I should be focusing on? And again, if you have any advice for cheap, non-medical marijuana treatments or suggestions I'm all ears, (or eyes).

well i find if i can find a MMJ go withh an og that will put yer assout!!! but that would be a nite reamedy!!!! dude iam honest and have tried !! many ,and many strains!!! and nothing in the MMJ did the trick!! for my ANXIETY!!!! DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFF FOLKES!! in my opinion !!!MMJ helps and relives in very few disseases ,and or illnesses!!! i base this on indivual cases i have seen throgh friends and families!! peace lab rat

[Nailhead]

Originally Posted by labrat

in my opinion !!!MMJ helps and relives in very few disseases ,and or illnesses!!!

I don't know if I would agree with this statement, but I know in the 7 years I have been diagnosed with Crohn's disease the safest and most effective drug for me has been marijuana. It isn't a cure, but currently it's the only medicine I am aware of that can both stimulate a dead appetite and ease stomach cramps. As I said before the anxiety is more of an annoyance and is not my primary concern, but it would be nice to know what I should avoid, or any tips on easing the symptoms of anxiety. A friend recommended India Pale Ale, she claims it works for her and says she doesn't need a lot so I might give it a try. My stomach can usually manage small amounts of alcohol so it's worth a shot, but I'm not expecting much, lol.

Thanks for the advice so far, by the way!

[austinh0]

Originally Posted by Nailhead

So what strains should I avoid? Any tips on what type of strains I should be focusing on? And again, if you have any advice for cheap, non-medical marijuana treatments or suggestions I'm all ears, (or eyes).

I have the same problem... I smoked ATF the other week it is a great med but it just kicked my anxiety up high.....I like to stick with any OG's from CRC mostly they help calm me down a lot, and if they have blue dream its probably the best med that works to not notice much anxiety at all.

[MadRiverTurtle]

Originally Posted by Nailhead

So what strains should I avoid? Any tips on what type of strains I should be focusing on? And again, if you have any advice for cheap, non-medical marijuana treatments or suggestions I'm all ears, (or eyes).

IMHE, indicas seem to work better since sativas are far too stimulating. Anxiety itself is rather hard on the body I need sedative in those situations. When you say shortness of breath it makes me think you're talking about a panic attack. If that's indeed what you're experiencing I'd wager that discussing a strain is rather useless. PAs occur rather unexpectedly, not allowing much time to grab some mmj. They're a rather quick physical experience. Look here though for an explanation though -> http://www.helpguide.org/mental/panic_disorder_anxiety_attack_

If you are having PAs I'd say there isn't really much you can do other than some kind of therapy, cognitive restructuring, or plain ol' introspection I guess. Whatever will help you identify your source of anxiety and overcome the fear. Cannabis has been known to cause PAs sometimes but you said you knew what it is about so perhaps the mmj is not the case.

If it's Generalized Anxiety, and we're still speaking in terms of affordability + efficacy, I'd still say that your mind is your best bet. A quick change of perception can throw you from negative, anxious thought patterns- music, scenery, exercise. But when things are quite overbearing I'd say benzodiazepines aren't a bad bet. Many people don't have a good reaction to them but they've been a necessity for me at times. It's likely that you might have a free clinic near you (I think we have a link in the MI forum) and benzos are rather inexpensive w/out insurance. I think the most I ever paid was $80 but it wasn't a generic script. Hope that some of this made sense. :smile2:

[itchy23]

dont,forget,to,drink,a,lot,of,water,when,you,feel, that,shortness,of,breath,coming,on
its,all,about,confusing,the,sympathetic and parasympathetic,nervous,systems...
when,they,are,dealing,with,processing,taht,water,t hey,can't,be,busy,making
you,feel,anxious,or,nervous.
when,i,was,in,my,panic,attack,heyday,i,never,went, anyplace,without,a,bottle
of,water,and,it,really,became,a,safety,blanket---

if,you,have,questions,or,want,to,talk,about,panic, attacks,or,GAD (general anxiety disorder) i'm,well,versed,in,both.


PS,im,not,a,doctor,so,please,consult,with,one,befo re,attempting,any,treatment
for,PA,or,GAD. im,definitely,just,letting,you,know,what,has,worke d,for,me.

[Organo]

i have a friend who is an mmj patient who uses it for ms but she suffers from horrible anxiety. she swears by strawberry cough and blueberry. these strains dont seem to contribute to her anxiety but everybody's different. i would stay away from hazes and strong sativas as these generally give a racy paranoid kind of high.

[IndicaMeltGuy]

Yeah i have anxiety and when i first started using mmj i would only smoke indica or indica dominant strains but as time went on i began to try out different sativas. i think many of them make me feel relaxed and they do help my anxiety but some are pretty racey and just arent my thing. it really depends on the strain. but like organo said, everybodys different but sativas or at least sativa dominant hybrids are real nice for a change and for me, they help me stay on track with eating and most are really uplifting.

[MadRiverTurtle]

moved to MI forum as this really doesn't pertain to CRC any longer :)

[labrat]

Originally Posted by Nailhead

I don't know if I would agree with this statement, but I know in the 7 years I have been diagnosed with Crohn's disease the safest and most effective drug for me has been marijuana. It isn't a cure, but currently it's the only medicine I am aware of that can both stimulate a dead appetite and ease stomach cramps. As I said before the anxiety is more of an annoyance and is not my primary concern, but it would be nice to know what I should avoid, or any tips on easing the symptoms of anxiety. A friend recommended India Pale Ale, she claims it works for her and says she doesn't need a lot so I might give it a try. My stomach can usually manage small amounts of alcohol so it's worth a shot, but I'm not expecting much, lol.

Thanks for the advice so far, by the way!

and i agree with you as well having a hand full of friends over the years that have Crohns each and every one has had success with MMJ peace lab rat

[b1joy2c]

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

Important words! Way too many Weedtrackers think MMJ is the cure-all for everything. It is not.

Amen to that brother BB; I call it my health enhancer!

[silvercloud]

If me recalls ,the focus of this thead 'surrounds determining' what strain best eases anxiety ; thus ,most of us realize that there r different strokes ... optimally ,the suggstion to see a physician is "correct" ,but can get PRICEY ( esp.,shrinks ; $$$ only ,no insurance ) ... since anxiety can/usually b complex in nature ,an internist (psychiatrist) should b consulted ,granted any m.d. can write/xanax (side effects ,HEAVY tolerance/phys.addct) ,but is this an answer ??? ; ask labby ... bottomline ,going to fav store ,"experiment" 'combo'/strains ,esp., ones offered by patient recco ... psst* ... CRC/Morpheus , well respected in this community ; any
info re : diagnosis/prognosis can always be useful/
appreciated by patients ...
psst**BlueDreamHaze blended w/ingrid/ggift/... then me titrates
some of the 'eye' for balance/clarity as needed ... again ,it's
a start in pos/direction ,be creative ,xperiment ... hope this
helps ya'll a bit :smile2:

[bosbruin4]

I was advised that Pink Kush works.

[TripleAnxiety]

Pink Kush is definately helping me thru some hard times atm.