[MJP420]

I don't know how to feel about this anymore. I don't really enjoy getting "high" when I medicate, although I will admit I use to enjoy it. But what I really find myself asking now, is it really ok to just keep living like this? Is "sobriety" really needed? I medicate for mental health issues (and I really wish I could make this thread anon) and I just want to know how you others feel about it? I will admit I feel very depressed now most of the time, instead of manic, if I do not medicate. Even though I do go to therapy and attempt to work out my problems on my own, I still feel like maybe MJ is just like a band-aid for me. How do you other trackers feel? (I'd prefer if I got some genuine heart-felt responses), thanks, and much love

[soblessed]

Originally Posted by MJP420

I don't know how to feel about this anymore. I don't really enjoy getting "high" when I medicate, although I will admit I use to enjoy it. But what I really find myself asking now, is it really ok to just keep living like this? Is "sobriety" really needed? I medicate for mental health issues (and I really wish I could make this thread anon) and I just want to know how you others feel about it? I will admit I feel very depressed now most of the time, instead of manic, if I do not medicate. Even though I do go to therapy and attempt to work out my problems on my own, I still feel like maybe MJ is just like a band-aid for me. How do you other trackers feel? (I'd prefer if I got some genuine heart-felt responses), thanks, and much love

That's a really good question, I have my card because of very high depression and anxiety problems I suffer from.. I dont know if you have the same health issue as me but If I dont medicate for a day, that day will be long and very depressing. So I guess you could say I dont need to "Medicate 24/7", But I do find the need to medicate at least a few times a day. As for sobriety I dont know if that would work for you but My depression would skyrocket If I went sober a few days . But anyways Good Luck Bro, Much Love!!!

[pogoismydog420]

i too have my rec for depression/anxiety/insomnia. been sober since sunday because i failed a random drug test my oarents, who i live with, gave me and becasue of threats that if i piss dirty on their next random test, they said theyre kikin me out rvrn though i have followed their rules:no pot in the house...anyway, since then, i have been very depressed and days have dragged on and on and on. been staring at the cieling all night long since i stopped...and the thought that i may be kiked out isnt really helping with the whole anxiety and depression side of things... also, i've noticed i have NO motivation to do anything. at least i could look forward to being comfortable after class and not just feel all shitty in a depressive downward spiral as it seems rite now...
by the way, i was using several times a day, some days up to an 8th total, but usually right around a half 8th or 2gs a day and a lil hash on the bowls before bed. and a bomb edible also on bad days..if anyone was curious. that money was well spent in my opinion, since i would happily pay that much right now to be able to sleep tonight and stop thinking about trying to clean out in 2 weeks cuz my dad has it in his head that it takes less than 2 weeks to get clean, which mite b the case for a one-time user, but not an every day user. right?

[lapoluxury]

i have my rec for bipolar/depression/anxiety and if i didn't medicate i would be on a downward spiral an definitely not get anything done.. I do relate to sometimes feeling like it is keeping me "sedated" however think about the side effects we, or at least i got from the medications the dr's prescibed. (yuck) perhaps you need to get some advice on different strains, alot of times you want to have really good meds but they aren't always necessary. try some lower grades an various sativas to keep you motivated. Lemme know if that works out for you. Best of luck

[MJP420]

Thanks for the positive responses and love! It's funny how you can find such caring strangers in this community going through the same kind of troubles you're having (since MMJ isn't exactly something everyone uses). I hadn't thought about it since it has been so long since I have really let my pill medications "zombifie" me, but it has helped me remember part of why I switched almost 100% to MMJ in the first place (low dose benzo to help those panic attacks that won't go away). I suffer from the same conditions as above and while I don't have to medicate 24/7, if I miss a day, I too am normally feeling really low, but occasionally really high. The anxiety attacks can come back too (but therapy has been helping that!). I just really wanted to see what other patients thought about it. After thinking about it a little more I guess it's all about moderation but still trying to stay healthy. I love this community, thanks guys
And i'll definately try some low-potency strains to see if that helps with the feeling that I am maybe being medicated too much, I'll keep this updated.

[Davyl]

Why Not? If you have a recommendation for depression or bi-polar, what's the difference if you medicate with medical marijuana or take the "prescribed" meds the "good doctor" gives you, like Lexapro, Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil or even Lithium treatment. I choose natural marijuana.

[OGUNIT]

You should only do as enough as your body requires . Load smaller bowl with a little hash on top .You will be medicated for hours of a 3 -4 tokes max . Also only medicate 24-7 if you are terminal or have severe pain or severe mental illness . cut back for a day or 2. I quit for just 2 day's and feel much better now . l aso don't smoke the same strain all the time ,og kush foe example .

[musicjunkie]

I also use it for depression and I don't know what I'd do without it. I used to feel that maybe I was starting to smoke too much, but when I go without it, the depression comes racing back to me...so I see it better to be on mmj all day rather than xanax or zoloft or any of the other crappy anti-depressents out there

[Bogart McKilo]

Well...It's not 24/7 is it? I mean, ya gotta sleep sometime. .:slaugh:

Mmj can't help but be an important part of your life if you use it to ease the pain - no matter what malady. I don't think it's an issue unless it's disrupting to you. Does it effect your employment, your family matters or the way you deal with folks in a rational way? If not, I think you're OK. If it helps it makes sense.

[achristian88]

HI! I too suffer from Depression / Anxiety and very bad Insomnia, in fact I'm writing this at 8 AM because I medicated at 2 am and went to bed and when the effects wore off I woke up unable to sleep again. So when this happens I get out of bed, medicate again, then watch a half hour TV show on the internet and go back to bed; because most of the time I can't sleep *just* after smoking.

Anyways the real reason I am writing this is to direct your attention here:

http://www.weedtracker.com/forums/sh...ray-75972.html

This would be something to seriously consider. It is a THC spray that Greener Pastures sells and its only $40 for 10-20 doses which makes it a great value. I actually tried the free sample the last time I went in, he gave me 4 sprays cause I told him I had a high tolerance, and after about 5 or 10 mins I left the effects. It came on as fish hooks on my cheeks, and later just settled into a nice buzzing body and mind high which lasted about 2 hours. I was really surprised that an "edible" like product could take effect so quickly, but apparently this spray work by absorbing into your blood stream through the blood vessels in your mount instead of through your stomach, which would explain the initial fish hooks. The best part about it as you can imagine is the portablitiy/ninjability of this product when in public places: movies, buses, and airplane rides come to mind!

Although I say all this about the product I did *not* purchase it, well at least not yet. Right now I have found a really good balance with my meds: I usually like to have at least 1 indica and 1 sativa on me at all times so I can always choose the best medication at any particular time. And, not to mention I am a former tobacco smoker so I particularly enjoy smoking. Anyways, best of luck to you! Let me know if you check that Spray out! Floyd at Greener Pastures is a great guy!

[halosmoker420]

Some folks with various ailments do not have a choice in the issue. Does a transplant recipient stop taking anti-rejection medicine because of ill effect side effects. You must for yourself weigh all pro's and con's and decide for yourself. Nobody knows your body better then you. Talk it over with your doctor - first and foremost. In addition, you don't have to be "high" to be medicated. THC responds in the body long after the initial "headchange" takes place. You may be able to adjust the dosage to to attain the proper balance that's right for you. Stay strong friend, you are not alone, we all support each other here. - H

[thedumonetwo]

Thanks for bringing this up. I worry about this. I also have depression (and migraines), and I am consuming 24/7. Not only that I'm also taking three antidepressents. I've been smoking so much oil that I am numb half the time. I will try and get some sativa next time, lately its been kush, kush, kush. I hope the sativa helps you too.

[codeman420]

man, every ones body is different. If it feels like a "band-aid" its because your subconscious is telling you it is, so listen. MMJ can be prescribed for insomnia, but some types keep people up! (this crazy "Blue Hawaiian" is a crazy sativa lol)
Listen to your body, its telling you everything you already know but don't realize. Some mornings i need mj, others I need to stay away.

best of luck

[MJP420]

Alright, after reading all these replies and trying to apply some of the advice I have decided to start putting a little honey bud on top of my bowls so I don't have to medicate as often. So far it seems to be working, plus the after-effects help with the depression and anxiety. And it doesn't really interfere with my life, other than "surplus" finances I didn't pick up any sativa's yesterday since the co-op I went to was running low on meds when I got there, but I'll definately see if switching to mostly sativa helps too. I do enjoy some green crack, or blue dream, or even blue crack , but I normally don't use sativas as much for fear of them exacerbating my anxiety. I'll still keep this thread updated. Good luck to us all.

[therealwrwhite420]

Originally Posted by MJP420

I don't know how to feel about this anymore. I don't really enjoy getting "high" when I medicate, although I will admit I use to enjoy it. But what I really find myself asking now, is it really ok to just keep living like this? Is "sobriety" really needed? I medicate for mental health issues (and I really wish I could make this thread anon) and I just want to know how you others feel about it? I will admit I feel very depressed now most of the time, instead of manic, if I do not medicate. Even though I do go to therapy and attempt to work out my problems on my own, I still feel like maybe MJ is just like a band-aid for me. How do you other trackers feel? (I'd prefer if I got some genuine heart-felt responses), thanks, and much love

Good question!
Cannabis is a tricky drug. It is many things to many people. There is no one right or wrong way to medicate, you have to do what works best for you. The fact that you are questioning weather or not you should be medicating so much should be a good indication that you need to slow down or take a break. When you enter into a habitual use cycle your body will adjust accordingly. We are nothing if not a big bag of walking chemistry. The depression you feel when not high is due to the fact that your body is not producing as much serotonin as it used too when you didn't smoke all the time. Lay off the weed for a few months and then, if you desire to, try it again. check out theis lik=nk about the causes of depression <http://abilify.com/abilify/depression/understanding-depression.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&TC=95731&access= &referrer=null> it may be helpful - GOOD LUCK!

[skidrow3]

Over the 10 yrs of smoking my breaks have been shorter & shorter in between. Months to weeks to days, etc.
Is this because I have become addicted to it or is it that I have come to realize that it doesn't make sense, for me, to go with out? Ya Dig?!

Lately I heard someone calling MMJ a supplement & I'm totally on board with that cause that's how I feel I'm using it. Along with my daily vitamins & exercise, I feel it is contributing positively (supplementing?) to my body & mind.

I think this corresponds negatively in our heads, when we break, because we try to rationalize it, when deep down we know it works for us.



Is this deep? I'm fresh off some Master P so I'll have to read this later.

Good Luck...skidrow 16/24

[FAZERKUSH]

I WOULD PREFER TO MEDICATE 24/7......IM SURE EVERYONE WOULD....
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[Qer]

If it works for you, do it. Just don't drive a car or something where you endanger others.

If your mood, attitude and life is better after 1-2 hits, do it, but don't OD it, cause overdoing it ain't doing it with quality! You gotta be able to function on some basic levels, or else we could all just burn one and sit back every day, and nuttin would become of us.
Maybe some day you'll be better, and might not need everyday use. Feel whats in your heart and gut.

[GoddessHerb]

Hey~

I'm sorry that you're having such a tough time lately. I think that you're being too hard on yourself. I think you're thinking that you should be cured by now and that just isn't the case. MMJ may seem like a bandaid but it's giving you the perspective to see that you aren't getting better just by medicating. That's a really good thing. You understand that you have to do other things in order to get better. You also have to try and accept that you are not going to get better on any type of schedule and that you can only do the best you can do. I know that's very frustrating but you have to understand that there are somethings that you can't change and somethings that you can. I know it's corny but the serenity prayer is a good reminder that you can't control everything, sometimes not even yourself.

If you don't like the side effects of the MMJ you can always use some other prescription drug if you prefer. I would do as others have suggested and find some new strains and see if they work better for you. re Perhaps you could take a few days off from medicine and evaluate how you feel with medication and without.

I hope you feel better soon and you find the path that's right for you.

Blessed be ~

[Happykid]

I use MMJ for depression and anxiety as well. It's hard for me to medicate enough because there are a lot of schools around me and I'm constantly worried about whether I'd be too close. On days where I'm out of the house most of the day I go that whole time without medicating, and by the time I get home my anxiety is already really bad. I tried taking a tincture with me so I can use that throughout the day but it doesn't seem to have the same effect. I can't afford edibles too often, so this is a pretty big problem for me.

I know what you mean about not being stoked about being high all the time. Sometimes I get tired of medicating. I wish it had a longer effect time so I could go longer in between.


I don't think there's any physical reason you shouldn't medicate as much as you need to, other than when you have to drive, etc. Your dosage and frequency is something you have to monitor. Don't worry about whether there is some absolute you are exceeding or not meeting. I've found during the day I feel relief with less and after a long day my dosage needs to be higher. This could be the same or completely opposite for you. Just remember you're medicating for relief, not for a feeling of being high. If you've got good meds you'll know almost immediately once you've reached the point you feel comfortable at, and that's what it's all about.

As far as MJ being a bandaid: no meds are going to retrace our neural pathways of sad thoughts and whatnot. I've heard Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy is good for that, and it's something I'm trying to find the means to do myself. It's a wonderful medicine that aids our healing, and relieves our pain during the process, but it doesn't heal all on it's own. You may feel you aren't using all avenues of healing, and that may be right. It may be something you'd like to talk about with a therapist.

[kindness]

sure if it feels good and not hurtin anyone except the uptight please do it and say ommmmmmmm

[kindness]

medicate 26/9 !

[kushguy101]

smoked 24/7 for 21 years and i'm perfectly fine besides the stuff from my accident with my spine.

[nigel]

I am Medicated 24/7, but not IMPAIRED 24/7. I actually don't like to get impaired. I like being alert and aware. I have found that smoking gives me more impairment than edibles. If I eat lots of edibles, I become more focused, relaxed, and better able to handle stressful situations... I consume enough hash orally to tranquilize a rhino, but it is less impairing than smoked marijuana for me. This is a recent discovery for me. My other medication is lexapro. It is priceless for the reduction of that "ants in your pants" and or "crawling out of your skin" feeling. After many years of trying dozens of combinations of medicines, my psychiatrist and I have found that lexapro and mmj are the correct combo. I suppose it is no different than taking an anti-depressant that works for you, but has the side effect of making you a little drowzy. (SPELLING) The side effect is worth the benefit of the medication. No different with mmj. At least we know its safe for the body....By the way, how the hell does the tracker-bot have more rep points than me????? Its just a computer how can it build rep? I've even been on weedtracker LONGER than that pile of silicon.... Dammed inanimate object............

[monday]

Originally Posted by MJP420

I don't know how to feel about this anymore. I don't really enjoy getting "high" when I medicate, although I will admit I use to enjoy it. But what I really find myself asking now, is it really ok to just keep living like this? Is "sobriety" really needed? I medicate for mental health issues (and I really wish I could make this thread anon) and I just want to know how you others feel about it? I will admit I feel very depressed now most of the time, instead of manic, if I do not medicate. Even though I do go to therapy and attempt to work out my problems on my own, I still feel like maybe MJ is just like a band-aid for me. How do you other trackers feel? (I'd prefer if I got some genuine heart-felt responses), thanks, and much love

You really need to change your perception on "sobriety"... I mean, what is it anyways?

How do you define sobriety in the true sense of the word?

Everyone is so hooked on humans being black or white, a 1 or a 0, smart or stupid, etc. etc.

The fact is we all have very different physiologies. Someone who doesn't need to take any substances isn't a better person than someone who does... they just have a different physiology. Our brains are intricate chemical machines.

If your brain doesn't create the desired amount of hormone which allows you to enjoy life... why should it be an issue if you supplement that hormone/chemical?

We're all just on this big blue ball to live our lives as best as we can... if that means being "sober", good for you... but if you are at your best while using a substance... then use on, brother.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it is good to be baked 24/7... but there is a line between medicating and... indulging.

Personally, I use marijuana every day. It is the only way I can focus in school, and sometimes the only way I can get my brain to slow down enough to get some sleep.

I have ADHD, which means my brain doesn't regulate its synapse connections (controlled by cannabinoid receptors) properly, and because of that I--and others like me--are less capable of ignoring outside stimulus (i.e. distractions) like a non-ADHD brain.

"Sobriety" for me means stress, the inability to pay attention and retain information, and just overall crappy ability to function at my highest when it comes to school and work.

Sorry for the long rant... but I wanted to give you all of my 2-cents.

Don't feel bad unless you know you're going over board. But if you're happy and your life is improving while using marijuana... then there shouldn't be a question as to whether or not you should use it so much.