[KushKronic]

Ok here's the thing I have depression, I've had it for years, it's a constant battle, been on anti-depressants, taken various supps etc.

Ok so when I smoke mary jane heavy I get really high but then I burn out hard, like I will just be really down and not want to do anything and this makes my depression worst.

So I read a study saying exactly that when you smoke a lot your depression worsens but it said when you smoke low doses it is a potent anti-depressant.

Ok so I want to know if anyone has tried just smoking not to get high but just to improve mood slightly. Like lets say you only take 1 or 2 small hits off a pipe or something.

Heres the study
http://depression.about.com/b/2007/1...-low-doses.htm

I want to know if this is true, I can't continue smoking the way I smoke, it just sucks the life out of me. I just don't talk or socialize with anyone, I just stay in my room all day watching youtube videos and thinking about how the government manipulates everyone. It gets me down, I want to feel alive again, i wanna get motivated to do stuff, If smoking weed in low doses can do that then i'm all for it.

[early mornin stoned pimp]

Originally Posted by KushKronic

Ok here's the thing I have depression, I've had it for years, it's a constant battle, been on anti-depressants, taken various supps etc.

Ok so when I smoke mary jane heavy I get really high but then I burn out hard, like I will just be really down and not want to do anything and this makes my depression worst.

So I read a study saying exactly that when you smoke a lot your depression worsens but it said when you smoke low doses it is a potent anti-depressant.

Ok so I want to know if anyone has tried just smoking not to get high but just to improve mood slightly. Like lets say you only take 1 or 2 small hits off a pipe or something.

Heres the study
http://depression.about.com/b/2007/1...-low-doses.htm

I want to know if this is true, I can't continue smoking the way I smoke, it just sucks the life out of me. I just don't talk or socialize with anyone, I just stay in my room all day watching youtube videos and thinking about how the government manipulates everyone. It gets me down, I want to feel alive again, i wanna get motivated to do stuff, If smoking weed in low doses can do that then i'm all for it.

Actually this is almost exactly what I do. I rarely smoke to get "stoned." Sometimes I smoke to get "high". Mostly I smoke to mellow myself while elevating my mood. Doing this in moderation fights my anxiety and depression, and helps keep me focused without dumbing me or overexciting me. This in turn helps me fight my insomnia. It also helps my appetite.

Oftentimes I don't even finish the very small bowl that I pack - I end up finishing it over two or three sessions.

I have found that if I consume large amounts, or on a very regular basis, I increase my risk of anxiety or stupor, depending on the strain, and increase my risk of becoming dependent on it, and my symptoms end up being much worse than if I abstain completely and use other naturopathic forms of medicating, including meditation and positive thinking.

[Eazy]

Originally Posted by KushKronic

Ok here's the thing I have depression, I've had it for years, it's a constant battle, been on anti-depressants, taken various supps etc.

Ok so when I smoke mary jane heavy I get really high but then I burn out hard, like I will just be really down and not want to do anything and this makes my depression worst.

So I read a study saying exactly that when you smoke a lot your depression worsens but it said when you smoke low doses it is a potent anti-depressant.

Ok so I want to know if anyone has tried just smoking not to get high but just to improve mood slightly. Like lets say you only take 1 or 2 small hits off a pipe or something.

Heres the study
http://depression.about.com/b/2007/1...-low-doses.htm

I want to know if this is true, I can't continue smoking the way I smoke, it just sucks the life out of me. I just don't talk or socialize with anyone, I just stay in my room all day watching youtube videos and thinking about how the government manipulates everyone. It gets me down, I want to feel alive again, i wanna get motivated to do stuff, If smoking weed in low doses can do that then i'm all for it.

I got depressed like that before I started therapy for a respiratory related sleep disorder. I couldn't get out of the depression until I started the pressure therapy, but the pressure therapy failed until I tried medical marijuana a year and a half later. In other words, I could not adapt to the therapy. So, I was depressed due to the sleep disorder and then more depressed due to the failed therapies. Then, I tried the medical marijuana with the pressure therapies and the sleep got incredibly good and I felt great. Then...new, hostile neighbors moved in and wrecked my sleep and it made me sick and I got depressed. Then, they moved and I got better.

So, there's a lot of factors involved in depression and there may be an underlying depressor you need to identify that must be treated first before any medication will work, including weed.

So, find a good doctor. Figure out what's wrong with you first, and don't take "depression" as the answer. Say, "yes, I am depressed, but I want to know what's causing it? Do I have allergies? Do I have a defect in my sleep?" Tell them everything about your sleep, wake times, digestion, etc., the works! Demand an answer. I did. I got mine. I was vindicated when I found out. Everybody called me lazy cuz I was so tired all the time. ha. I was right! And, I forgive everybody for...NOT UNDERSTANDING I WAS LITERALLY DEAD TIRED FROM LIFELONG SLEEP DEPRIVATION. weiners..."go get a job." "Why do you look so tired?" "Go to bed early." "Go to bed late." "Get a night job." "Get a day job." "Get a swing shift job." "Run an eBay store." GET ME SOME FUCKING SLEEP!!! WHILE I AM FALLING ASLEEP I'LL RUN RIGHT OUT AND GET A JOB AND EXPLAIN TO THE PROSPECTIVE EMPLOYER WHY I LOOKED SO TIRED...get what I mean? If something's wrong, find out. Don't take this lame "depression" for an answer.

...be prepared. Getting high is a side effect of medical marijuana. You either smoke shitty weed for a lesser effect or you smoke stronger weed to achieve symptom relief. If you ain't loving the relief, the side effect will bother you. If you are healthy and smoke too much, you will get lazy. If you're healthy, you only need weed once a week, period. If you are ill or have a medical condition, you may be doomed to a life of meds until a better technology comes along. But, it's not so bad once you get used to it, and when you stop, the side effects of being high go away, quickly. THERE IS NO VALID STUDIES THAT SHOW ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS FROM LONG TERM USE OF MARIJUANA. When you stop, you stop and the active cannabinoids get metabolized and you return to your normal state. If your normal state was ill or in pain, you will feel ill and in pain once you stop. If your normal state was smart, you'll be smart. If you were dumb and weed made you smart...you'll be dumb again, which means you need weed.

[KushKronic]

Originally Posted by Oldfarts4life

I'm only depressed when i don't have my medication.. Like right now But I'm going on the third day so i feel perfectly fine now. What are you depressed from if you don't mind me asking. If you wanna tell me send it to me in a PM I'm here to talk anytime. I'm on here almost all day.

Yea the depression gets so bad after I don't get any weed, especially the first 3 days after I just feel so down but it's not that much better when I do have it, I think I'm smoking wrong. I dunno it's just a natural thing for me, i lack the nuerotransmitters that control mood so in my head I get all these negative thoughts and moods associated with them, I often think about killing myself etc

Its just weed was doing wonders at first then I guess i smoked too much and it wasn't working the same, i would get really burnt out and this I think is because I was getting too high for my own good. If I were to just use it as a mood balancer It would probably work better.

[ps-med]

I found that for my depression a little bit works wonders. I found capsules (that I made myself) to be a great solution. Each capsule was enough to just barely feel the effects, but it would elevate my mood for several days. When I smoke I rarely have more than a few hits. You may want to try different strains as well. For me the Sativa strains tend to make me anxious and sometimes paranoid, Indicas tend to just mellow me out.

[Smokus Cannabis]

Usually, when I'm actually in a depression, I don't have any desire for MJ at all - but since I've been smoking it regularly, I haven't had one depression (2 years now). I did notice though that when I did smoke MJ, it didn't have enough power to zap me out of my madness. The only drugs I know of that work for that are all pharms. However, maybe you're the type who can manage it with only MMJ. My method is - light amounts during the afternoons, and heavy stones for the night time. Everyone is different. I hope you get back to feeling good ASAP. Good luck.

[frita]

For several years I have taken various anti-depressants; prozac and bupropion being the most useful / effective (for a time). I did notice when on regular doses of these medications, I had to smoke or consume MORE MMJ to get the same effect. Particularly on bupropion. It was like it overpowered MMJ almost totally.

LOW DOSE is like my favorite phrase to hear from a doctor at this point. IT means they aren't looking to overmedicate. With MMJ it is "up to us" and our wallets how much we consume.
Gotta remember the "less is more" mantra more often.

LOW DOSE MMJ seems like the best starting point, though for severe ongoing PAIN, (as I endured recently) the sky is the limit. Unfortunately, MMJ did not do a good job of relieving actual PAIN. (First time I really used it for that purpose).

My usual MMJ "dose" is one or two moderate hits off a small glass pipe that usually generates about 4 good "hits" per bowl if "cornered" just so with the lighter. My **only** complaint about MMJ is how frequently one has to hit the pipe to maintain an effect.

[CaliStoner]

i smoke to get high
sometimes get stoned
but i love being high
i completely forget that i even have depression

[joe32blow]

I was getting depressed about the economy and family problems. It was
making it hard to work, but I found that MMJ helps me block out those
dark thoughts that were driving me down. For me, it's a gift from God.

[imburne]

awesome thread guys.. I am right there with every single one of you

[coldfire23mj]

I use to suffer from depression and I still do every, once in awhile. but it was really bad at one point. i would just medicate and go on walks with my dog. we really became best friends, then we realized she had cancer and she died a week later.

sorry for getting so personal, but my point is if it wasnt for weed, I wouldnt be as open minded as I am today. I came to realize that life is too short, to let the little things bother you. They still bother me from time to time, but its important to remind myself, we only have one life on this great and beautiful earth, we shouldnt waste time with negativety and negative thoughts. Its about helping each other and making the best we can with the time we have on this earth.

As they say, happiness is the best medicine.

this is just my philosophy anyways.

[Bogart McKilo]

I'd say what you're smoking is equally important to if you're smoking. I've found that for this physical malady, hybrids or sativas are best for me. I try to stay away heavy drowsy smoke as, for me, it's not so good.

[OGHASHPLANT310]

I Take XANAX Bars unfortunatelly cuz of my Depression/Insomnia/Anxiety,and back on Remeron only30mg this time.LESS IS MORE DURING THE DAY WHILE TOKE UP TILL U FALL DOWN AT NIGHT PERSONAL EXP-LOL.I LUV INDICA!Theres sum nice Sativas 4 Depression tho like BLUEBERRY KUSH.GOOD LUCK DONT GIVE UP HOMIE I WAS SUICIDAL FOR LIKE 3 YEARS.IT WILL PASS G.:001_cool:I'VE BEEN OFF AND ON EVERY PHARMACEUDICAL ON THE MARKET WHEN IT CUMS 2 DEPRESSION.

[The Chronic-ial]

I suffer from major depression, and have been in counseling and been on a wide variety of differant pharmaceutical meds, but nothing works as well (for me anyway) as MMJ. I dont have the same negative side effects I was having with the pharmaceuticals. I am now better able to function and living a good life.

[OGHASHPLANT310]

Got prescribed Lithium 3-300mg a day so I have sum foundation 2 get off the Xanax Bars with.I have less desire to take a XanyBar so I guess it's working:)

[godfree_x]

Originally Posted by coldfire23mj

I use to suffer from depression and I still do every, once in awhile. but it was really bad at one point. i would just medicate and go on walks with my dog. we really became best friends, then we realized she had cancer and she died a week later.

sorry for getting so personal, but my point is if it wasnt for weed, I wouldnt be as open minded as I am today. I came to realize that life is too short, to let the little things bother you. They still bother me from time to time, but its important to remind myself, we only have one life on this great and beautiful earth, we shouldnt waste time with negativety and negative thoughts. Its about helping each other and making the best we can with the time we have on this earth.

As they say, happiness is the best medicine.

this is just my philosophy anyways.

That's exactly my mentality and philosophy. I have been suffering from depression/anxiety/insomnia for years and every pharmaceutical out there has never worked for me. Not to mention, they weren't cost effective. MMJ has worked wonders for me. It helps me realize the beauty of life. I understand that a lot of outside factors such as family, work, government, society, etc can bring your morale down. But when you look at the big picture, life is short and the only thing of the utmost importance is happiness. That's why I believe that mother nature put MMJ on this earth to remind us that life is good and just enjoy the ride as much as we can. MMJ opened up my mind and now I battle my depression by helping others. Seeing people in my environment happy makes me happy and that's all the MMJ does. MMJ helps us realize that love and happiness is the answer.

Now as far as how you are smoking, everybody should just experiment with their meds. I love sativas during the day and indicas at night to knock me out. I usually just smoke one small joint of sativa during the day to give me a high and I smoke a bowl or two of indica to get stoned and for sweet dreams. But you should just experiment and see which meds/strains help and which are counterproductive.

Hope all is well with you man.

And remember: Nothing but Love, Peace, and Mary Jane.

[sfvkat]

For depression, I find sativas to definitely help but the key is to find ones that don't drop you in the dumpster when they wear off. This goes the same for antidepressant meds as well, which is why lots of docs load you up with the pharmaceutical samples first as you try to find a good fit w/ minimal side effects.

For whatever reason, I found a strain of indica that I'll take a light hit or 2 of at night. Any more than that and I actually can't sleep. I wake up mentally refreshed instead of the sober hang-over from the thinking that goes with depression. Prozac had a similar effect for awhile, except when it wore off the depression was made so much worse I thought I'd go insane.

I also find the heavier indicas bringing me down after the intense high wears off. Maybe the lighter ones allow a person to work through the issues in a meditative state instead of the state that feels more drunk and disjointed, or flying off the rooftops for that matter. Its the difference between party-mode and therapy-mode.

I also hesitate to ask for something 'lighter' at clubs because it might be interpreted as 'bring out the shwaggy stuff we cant get rid of'.

Use organic cannabis whenever possible. Clean cannabis is non-toxic and safe.

However, the pesticides/insecticides used in many of the quick buck indoor grows have harmful effects, both mental and physical.

As an example, pesticides lower testosterone, causing depression, low energy, loss of libido, and weight gain/muscle loss.

Less is more with cannabis.

[DreamSmoker]

My experiences with medication and depression are many..
Find a Indica Hybrid that works for you... I love SkyWalker OG because of the intense body tingle and the energetic head buzz...
Try to avoid the couch lock Meds that leave you shortly with that sleepy buzz or headaches...

[silvercloud]

Originally Posted by OGHASHPLANT310

Got prescribed Lithium 3-300mg a day so I have sum foundation 2 get off the Xanax Bars with.I have less desire to take a XanyBar so I guess it's working:)

Watch out w/Lithium ~ was on Lithium over 15 yrs ('compromised' @ 50% kidney function ,enuf to survive carefully) ,bi_polar ~ in '81 ,only med outside maryjane ~

'97 switched onto Depakote ER (mania)/Budeprion XL ( both excellent pharmas for this patient) ~ recently ,moderate doses (500mg) *'resveratrol' ,maintain focus ,memory ,thermogenically increase metabolism (66) ,energy/stamina w/o BP increase ~ that is all

psst* 5mg resveratrol equiv 1 btl. redwine ~ 500mg = 100
btls/day ~ anti_ carcino- genic prprts

[dolphin888]

I too have suffered with depression and anxiety for years. I have taken many different meds - Proxac, Wellbutrin, Effexor, etc, etc. I have found no greater relief for my depression and anxiety than MJ.

I know what you mean by tapering the dose to therapeutic. I seem to get the most relief from my depression by not over-doing it. If I smoke to heavy of an indica - takes all my energy and motivation away! A nice sativa and I feel uplifted - I am currently trying out some new strains.

I do find that I get pretty down and weepy if I don't have any mj for a few days...anyone else get that effect?

Anyway, best of luck to you. Take care and know that you are not alone :)

[krysnik]

Originally Posted by The Chronic-ial

I suffer from major depression, and have been in counseling and been on a wide variety of differant pharmaceutical meds, but nothing works as well (for me anyway) as MMJ. I dont have the same negative side effects I was having with the pharmaceuticals. I am now better able to function and living a good life.

What strains work best for you? I am in the worst depression of all time and it just gets worse by the day. Chronic pain really does a number on the Psyche and being at home unable to work is another nail in the coffin. Everyone is gone, no family, no support and teens who are over 18 and are self absorbed only add to it. It is a very lonely life