[gopers]

OK, I did not check to see if this was posted anywhere else on WT'er but I will post this.


Libertarian Republican: Obama Administration busts "Pot King" Marc Scott Emery: Now faces Extradition to United States from Canada for worldwide Marijuana Seed business

Friday, October 2, 2009
Obama Administration busts "Pot King" Marc Scott Emery: Now faces Extradition to United States from Canada for worldwide Marijuana Seed business

Victimless Crime law nabs libertarian Pot Protester

Marc Emery Scott, Publisher of Cannibas Culture Magazine, surrendered to Canadian Federal authorities on Monday.

The Magazine reports:

[He is] to await a transfer to the United States where he is expected to serve a 5-year prison sentence for selling marijuana seeds.

The 'Prince of Pot' held a press conference in front of the British Columbia courthouse where he spoke to supporters and journalists. After an emotional speech from Emery and his wife Jodie, Marc hugged many of his friends and made his way into the courtroom.
The Vancouver Sun goes on to report:

Marc Emery, 51, was indicted in 2005 along with two associates on drug and money-laundering charges stemming from a lucrative mail-order pot-seed business run out of Emery's Vancouver book and paraphernalia shop, which also doubled as B.C.'s Marijuana Party headquarters.

Two charges Emery faced — conspiracy to distribute marijuana and conspiracy to engage in money laundering — were dropped in exchange for his guilty plea on the charge of conspiracy to manufacture marijuana.

He has agreed to a five-year imprisonment plea bargain in connection with his $3-million a year marijuana seed catalogue business, where most of his customers were American.

Canadian authorities drew criticism for helping the U.S. nab Emery because he openly participated in an operation that drew little heat in Canada.
US Democrat Party becomes Marijuana Movement's worst enemy

Emery is a longtime "libertarian" political activist. He first got active in politics in the early 1980s running for the Canadian House of Commons on the Libertarian Party ticekt. (Source: Wiki). He then ran on the "Marijuana Party" ticket for various offices in British Columbia over the years. He was also a big supporter of American politicians, most notably Ron Paul for President in 2008.

Though, he was a harsh critic of the Bush administration and other Republicans in general. Ironically, he escaped extradition to the US for 4 years under Bush's justice department. It was Eric Holder and the Democrat administration of Barack Obama who finally sealed the deal with Canadian authorities.

Ed Rosenthal of the The Guru of Ganja blog, writes:

Well, Barack, your federal thugs at work. When do you say stop?

Marc Emery turned himself into Canadian authorities for extradition to the United States after arranging a plea agreement. Marc would not have plead except to protect his wife and associates from threat of prosecution, so he took the fall. He is facing five years.

My immediate disgust, complaint, anger and rage is a trident with three-barbed tines: Eddy Lepp, Marc Emery, and Will Foster. These are all names that you know that are being housed at our expense in rat hole prisons.

Barack, is your MDS (Marijuana Deficiency Syndrome) so bad that you can't hear the cries?
The CBC noted:

"There is no crime here. The politicians who support this extradition are supporters of organized crime. We are making criminals with laws like this," said Emery.
The Vancourver Sun goes on to report that supporters chanted "Free Marc Emery" repeatedly in the halls of the courtroom.

Watch the video of his press conference here.

Note - to get involved to Free Marc Scott Emery go to StoptheDrugWar.com

OK folks, we need to make a stink!

[gopers]

Ed Rosenthal: Buyer's Regret

Being the politically-minded person that I am, what immediately came to mind was the ultimate buyer's regret. And then I got to thinking of an old remedy commercial that's tag line was “would you trade a headache for an upset stomach?”.

My immediate disgust, complaint, anger and rage is a trident with three-barbed tines: Eddy Lepp, Marc Emery, and Will Foster. These are all names you are familiar with- they are being housed in American rat hole prisons at our expense.

McCain represented the most militaristic of interests and a crazy xenophobic hysteria. What could you do? Still, looking back, isn’t there some buyer's regret? The interminable hostilities in remote areas are so reminiscent of Orwell’s 1984, where the three super powers were constantly in battle in some proxy war.

My immediate disgust, complaint, anger and rage is a trident with three-barbed tines: Eddy Lepp, Marc Emery, and Will Foster. These are all names that you know that are being housed at our expense in rat hole prisons.

Marc Emery turned himself into Canadian authorities for extradition to the United States after arranging a plea agreement. Marc would not have plead except to protect his wife and associates from threat of prosecution, so he took the fall. He is facing five years. If you don’t know about him and his case, you can read all about it on Cannabis Culture. How do you feel about the fact that the person who helped you or your favorite grower get the varieties that helped change your life is now serving time in a federal prison?

How do you feel about it, Barack?

Eddy Lepp grew 27,000 plants on the side of a state highway in Northern California and was sentenced to 10 years in prison at the age of 57. (Might seem like a lot of plants, but I have seen bigger gardens.) When you think of the thousands of patients who would receive the medicine, it is all the more heartbreaking that his earnest work was destroyed. Eddy draws his strength and commitment from his highly evolved spiritual and religious beliefs. I suppose it was a special pleasure for the prosecutors to bring this guy down.

Well, Barack, your federal thugs at work. When do you say stop?

California and Oklahoma are both nearly bankrupt. Really. The state governments are bankrupt. They have no money for schools, hospitals, the infirmed, the disabled, parks...

But, you have to put things in perspective, because the most important service that a state can perform is to protect a society from evil and harm.

So, as it turns out, per capita, California has the highest rate of its citizens incarcerated (sorry Texas, you’ve killed too many of your prisoners to qualify!). Oddly enough, Oklahoma is Number Two!! Sort of… "The Later State". So of course, when the two states had a dispute regarding the probation of Will Foster, it was important that they both spend millions of dollars to arrest, prosecute, hold, transport, and jail this person in Oklahoma. I have mentioned his crime before, it was very serious- a five by five foot garden in a former atom bomb shelter (and as you know, that could have probably supplied not only Tulsa, but also its suburbs).

It's like this. Kids don’t need art, music, math or English, but society does need its marijuana miscreants to be imprisoned. Barack, is your MDS (Marijuana Deficiency Syndrome) so bad that you can't hear the cries? Are you absent without leave? Buyer’s regret? Headache or upset stomach? I am glad I voted for Cynthia McKinney, I am getting a bumper sticker “Don’t blame me… I voted for McKinney”.

[BrattonBasher]

Career LEO's persue a case for years, and people are blaming Obama? Somehow Obama should have prevented this? The Obama bashing should become embarrasing, it's getting so ridiculous and pervasive that he will soon be blamed when people develop hemmoroids.

[Herbal Discount Collective]

wow...

[gopers]

Come on BB, this was and still is a high profile case. How did I bash the president? It is a question. And he has the power to stop the bureaucrats from their own jihad. That is all. I did not BASH!

[BrattonBasher]

Originally Posted by gopers

Come on BB, this was and still is a high profile case. How did I bash the president? It is a question. And he has the power to stop the bureaucrats from their own jihad. That is all. I did not BASH!

Thread title my friend, thread title. IMHO you could have made this into a legit question about how much influence he has over career LEO's, and what role the White House might play in such matters. Obama is against legalization, he has always stated that. This Emery situation does not involve MMJ, which Obama has voiced support for. It would be kinda unusual for him to spin 180 degrees and interject in this case. It's disengenuous to expect Obama to step into a pleaded out case no matter what the offense was. Is Obama the ultimate Fall Guy for every negative thing in the world?

[juangoodman]

Gophers, you can't blame Obama for this! He wasn't even here. He had other important things to do like lobby for his cronies in Chicago to obtain the Olympics.

[gopers]

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

Thread title my friend, thread title. IMHO you could have made this into a legit question about how much influence he has over career LEO's, and what role the White House might play in such matters. Obama is against legalization, he has always stated that. This Emery situation does not involve MMJ, which Obama has voiced support for. It would be kinda unusual for him to spin 180 degrees and interject in this case. It's disengenuous to expect Obama to step into a pleaded out case no matter what the offense was. Is Obama the ultimate Fall Guy for every negative thing in the world?

You are right BB.

But, I still don't like our government to focus on MJ or MMJ.

I believe that Meth, Cocaine, and Opiates are the true dangers when it comes to illegal drugs.

[Pico+Barrington Collective]

I second that!

Originally Posted by Herbal Discount Collective

wow...

[Mother Chucker]

FYI,

1. this prosecution started under Bush as part of his war on drugs.

2. It is not proper or legal for the White House to get involved in individual Justice dept cases until the person has served x amount of time in prison. Remember Scooter Libby? That was wrong.

3. Blame Canada for being pussy bitches. that's where he's in jail right now. They could have told the USA "no" if they had the balls to be their own country.

To irrationally blame Obama is to ignore real world facts and perhaps disguise some other agenda.

That said Emery should be a free man since no person should go to jail for cannabis if Emery being free is your real agenda here but I suspect it may not be....

[Mother Chucker]

Originally Posted by juangoodman

Gophers, you can't blame Obama for this! He wasn't even here. He had other important things to do like lobby for his cronies in Chicago to obtain the Olympics.

While Chicago would be the host city it is the USA that would have obtained the Olympics.
So we are all his "cronies" if you're an American.

At least Obama's cronies didn't lie to the nation to start two wars....

[VooDoo Chile]

How is any of this Obama's fault?

This has nothing to do with MMJ. As much as I favor the outright legalization of marijuana, Obama doesn't. He never claimed to. And despite what some folks on here seem to believe, the entire nation's police officers do not report directly to the president.

By the way, I find it interesting that the same people who bitch about federal intervention in criminal issues suddenly change their tune and feel Obama should jump in and wield his influence in these types of cases. Ya can't have it both ways folks.

[gopers]

Originally Posted by VooDoo Chile

How is any of this Obama's fault?

This has nothing to do with MMJ. As much as I favor the outright legalization of marijuana, Obama doesn't. He never claimed to. And despite what some folks on here seem to believe, the entire nation's police officers do not report directly to the president.

By the way, I find it interesting that the same people who bitch about federal intervention in criminal issues suddenly change their tune and feel Obama should jump in and wield his influence in these types of cases. Ya can't have it both ways folks.

See post #8

[VooDoo Chile]

Originally Posted by gopers

You are right BB.

But, I still don't like our government to focus on MJ or MMJ.

I believe that Meth, Cocaine, and Opiates are the true dangers when it comes to illegal drugs.

Personally, I don't like the government focusing on drugs period. Legalization acorss the board, I say!

[smokeymcpotterton]

Well its starting. The beginning of the end.

Just one more example of how Obama says his administration will do one thing, then they do another.

[Au_Hunter]

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

Thread title my friend, thread title.

Thanks for the belly laugh!

[VooDoo Chile]

Originally Posted by smokeymcpotterton

Well its starting. The beginning of the end.

Just one more example of how Obama says his administration will do one thing, then they do another.

When did Obama say he was going to completely legalize marijuana? Oh, that's right, never.

[stanley]

I honestly dont know which is funnier.... the Obama "bashing" or the fanatical fanboi defense of Obama...

He is eight months plus into his term. If he is not in charge of the administration now, when WILL he be?

Yes, the persecution of Marc Emory began during the Bush administration. But if President Obama hasnt located the phone book with the numbers of all the various Justice dept heads in it yet, one cant help but wonder when and if he ever will.

No, he never said he would support legalized marijuana. But he sure did his level best to make us all believe he would re-focus the DEA on more harmful drug trafficking.....

I find it hilarious watching the liberal left as the realization hits them that Obama is nothing more than a Democratic party hack, just like the last ten or so presidents we have had have been nothing but party hacks.

Politics as usual. You want change, you have to change CONGRESS.

Federal Congressional TERM LIMITS. NOBODY should be in Congress for 30 plus years--- hell some of them have been there 40 plus years. That is longer than MANY WeedTRACKERS have even been alive.

[silvercloud]

Originally Posted by stanley

i honestly dont know which is funnier.... The obama "bashing" or the fanatical fanboi defense of obama...

He is eight months plus into his term. If he is not in charge of the administration now, when will he be?

Yes, the persecution of marc emory began during the bush administration. But if president obama hasnt located the phone book with the numbers of all the various justice dept heads in it yet, one cant help but wonder when and if he ever will.

No, he never said he would support legalized marijuana. But he sure did his level best to make us all believe he would re-focus the dea on more harmful drug trafficking.....

I find it hilarious watching the liberal left as the realization hits them that obama is nothing more than a democratic party hack, just like the last ten or so presidents we have had have been nothing but party hacks.

Politics as usual. You want change, you have to change congress.

Federal congressional term limits. Nobody should be in congress for 30 plus years--- hell some of them have been there 40 plus years. That is longer than many weedtrackers have even been alive.

word ^^^

[VooDoo Chile]

Originally Posted by stanley

I honestly dont know which is funnier.... the Obama "bashing" or the fanatical fanboi defense of Obama...

He is eight months plus into his term. If he is not in charge of the administration now, when WILL he be?

Yes, the persecution of Marc Emory began during the Bush administration. But if President Obama hasnt located the phone book with the numbers of all the various Justice dept heads in it yet, one cant help but wonder when and if he ever will.

No, he never said he would support legalized marijuana. But he sure did his level best to make us all believe he would re-focus the DEA on more harmful drug trafficking.....

I find it hilarious watching the liberal left as the realization hits them that Obama is nothing more than a Democratic party hack, just like the last ten or so presidents we have had have been nothing but party hacks.

Politics as usual. You want change, you have to change CONGRESS.

Federal Congressional TERM LIMITS. NOBODY should be in Congress for 30 plus years--- hell some of them have been there 40 plus years. That is longer than MANY WeedTRACKERS have even been alive.

Obama said he would stop using the DEA to circumvent state MMJ laws. That has NOTHING to do with this case.

And Congressional term limits are a nice thought, but they're a total nonsequitur when it comes to the topic at hand.

[lwien]

Originally Posted by smokeymcpotterton

Well its starting. The beginning of the end.

Just one more example of how Obama says his administration will do one thing, then they do another.

Too funny. Can you name just one President who hasn't said during their election phase that they will do one thing, only to have them do another once in office. Name me one.

The fact is, is that things change. What may be true during the election phase may not be true a year or two later down the line. What's also true is that President elects are not privy to all the information that they will receive once they take office and that information, once learned can dramatically change things.

Prime example of this is when the first Presidnet Bush said the now famous words, "Read my lips. No new taxes". LOL.

Hell, things change from week to week let alone from year to year. Ideally, Presidents and President elects shouldn't promise anything, but that's not how our elective system works. If any President elect tried that, they would never get elected.

It's the nature of things, and it's called reality. To single out Obama on this is totally ludicrous.

"The beginning of the end" ??? LOL. Watch out chicken little......the sky is falling. Run for your lives.............

[Memory Man]

So true.

Originally Posted by lwien

Too funny. Can you name just one President who has said during their election phase that they will do one thing, only to have them do another once in office. Name me one.

The fact is, is that things change. What may be true during the election phase may not be true a year or two later down the line. What's also true is that President elects are not privy to all the information that they will receive once they take office and that information, once learned can dramatically change things.

Hell, things change from week to week let alone from year to year. Ideally, Presidents and President elects shouldn't promise anything, but that's not how our elective system works. If any President elect tried that, they would never get elected.

Prime example of this is when the first Presidnet Bush said the now famous words, "Read my lips. No new taxes". LOL.

It's the nature of things, and it's called reality. To single out Obama on this is totally ludicrous.

"The beginning of the end" ??? LOL. Watch out chicken little......the sky is falling. Run for your lives.............

[BrattonBasher]

Originally Posted by juangoodman

Gophers, you can't blame Obama for this! He wasn't even here. He had other important things to do like lobby for his cronies in Chicago to obtain the Olympics.

It's GOPERS, not gophers. I am worried shitless because he resides in Wrightwood, which is on fire.

You are one of the America-haters who revels in the joy of America not getting the Olympics only because you have hatred toward Obama. Truly pathetic. His "cronies" are out of work Americans, put there by your buddy GWB.

[peacefulIRIEfeelin]

Originally Posted by smokeymcpotterton

Well its starting. The beginning of the end.

Just one more example of how Obama says his administration will do one thing, then they do another.

what did his administration say? they wouldt bust a canadian seed dealer who laundered millions of dollars among other things? I dont remember obama saying anything of the sort. where were all you president haters when george w. bush was president. its like you guys have crawled out of your crevice to bash a guy thats just doing his job. and doing it well might i add.

[mikebig 9078]

you all need to stop worrying about Obama and start worring about Trutanich and the LA city council