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Old 10-23-2009, 09:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Pharmaceutical Companies want to take away your right to grow your own

I can't stress this fact enough, Beware of too much "medicalization," What this means is We must never let control of cannabis fall into the hands of Pharmaceutical Companies, who seek to "restrict access, & take away the rights of patients to grow at home, eliminating any hope of complete legalization. Just to make profits. Pharmaceutical Co.'s have over two lobbyists for every congressman, seeking to use our own medical cannabis laws against us. The new Arizona initiative will even electronically track how much medical cannabis a patient purchases and require criminal background checks & fingerprinting that will be forwarded to the FBI!

Cannabis belongs in the hands of "We the People" Not corporations!!
As fewer & fewer patients qualify for medical cannabis under these new, tighter laws, Pharmaceutical companies continue to derive and patent cannabinoid compounds & prepare them for dose-regulated delivery by spray, inhaler,cream, and pill. They've used their lobbying power for decades to oppose natures finest medicine, because they feel that marijuana is the biggest threat to their market for benzodiazepines, NSAID's, and opioids, because they couldnt slap a bar code and a $250.000 percent mark-up on pot. Soon, they will be able to provide all these patients with all the benefits of medical cannabis, but without the pesky "high" and the ability to thwart their profits by people growing it for themselves.
Say a big "NO WAY!" to Pharmaceutical Companies controlling Marijuana!!!

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Say a big "NO WAY!" to Pharmaceutical Companies controlling Marijuana!!!

I totally agree!!!

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Re: Pharmaceutical Companies want to take away your right to grow your own

i say no to big pharma concerning mmj...they had their chance....now that everyone except them has done the work...they want to ride on the backs of others and exploit it......

for years the community has asked for their support...now that they see the dollars involved they change their tune....

i will in no way ever support big pharma getting involved with mj in general....

they had their chance for the last 30 plus years they have done everything to protect their profits and lobby against mj.

they dont want to help only reap the benefits...

just say no to big pharma and mj together.
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Re: Pharmaceutical Companies want to take away your right to grow your own

Big Pharma can only get involved after national legalization. This probably won't happen anytime soon but when it is attempted, just make sure you read ALL the fine print before you sign on the dotted line.
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:46 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Pharmaceutical Companies want to take away your right to grow your own

I agree that after national legalization, there will be a good use for some of these sprays and creams. I am new to all of this, and honestly I would not mind finding a spray or cream that could use the compounds of this plant to relax me without making me high. (Not opposed to getting high, I enjoy that also but not all of the time. I am showing my age I guess.) I would prefer that health food shops sell these creams and sprays, though. I am very much into homeopathic and natural medicines so I'd love to pick up a Cannabis lotion or medical mmj along with my kava kava et al. :) (I'm an MMJ user. I have pretty bad anxiety and panic and never have panic attacks using a very small amount of good indica strain.Helps me immensely but a BIT too much makes me in that head high zone where panic could occur. I'd love to find a VERY diluted lotion or spray tincture that could help me. I am so new at this.)

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Re: Pharmaceutical Companies want to take away your right to grow your own

The marijuana industry is looking at a multi-billion dollar marketplace which is up for grabs and at the same time our local, state, and federal governments are unable to decide which way to turn.

Three points:
  • Elections are bought with big bucks.
  • Big Pharma has very big bucks as do the alcohol and tobacco industries.
  • The marijuana marketplace is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for many …. including at least some of the present “compassionate” SoCal dispensaries.

If we’re not careful we could easily lose the freedom to grow our own personal supply. Without the ability to grow our own supplies we are at the mercy of whomever controls the supply!

We need to stay alert and learn all we can about the opposition.

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Big Pharma can only get involved after national legalization. This probably won't happen anytime soon but when it is attempted, just make sure you read ALL the fine print before you sign on the dotted line.
Yup.

The best way to avoid big Pharm's gaining control of MJ is to head them off. This was accomplished, partially, in the way prop. 215 was written, and even supported in HB 420.

Unfortunately there were other loopholes and omissions in those bills that overshadow that major success.

So basically what I am saying is the best way to keep MJ away is to continue to support voter initiatives that bypass the partisan lobbies and their effect on politicians.

Even if the state senate wanted to take away a patient's right to grow, they can't, not now.

as far as for recreational use.....I don't know if they should have the right to grow or not, honestly not worried about that right now, haven't thought about it.

Let's not throw the baby away with the bathwater. Prop 215 wasn't perfect but the concept was spot on.

Let the voters do what the politicians either won't or can't for whatever reason.

That's kinda why our founding fathers came up with this system.

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Re: Pharmaceutical Companies want to take away your right to grow your own

For All The People Out There Who Think They Will Let US Control The Product As To Limits And Regulations! Keep Dreaming! We Live In AMERICA Realize! IF This Product Was To Ever And When It Will Be Legal Will Be Run By Higher End Lobbyist And Government Officials! It's A Known Fact! For This To Be A Reputable Medication It Would Have To Be FDA Approved And Manufactured By The Pharmaceutical Companies Simple As That And Would Definitely Not Be Administered Through Smoking/Vaporizing! I'm Not Falmin' I'm Just Postin' My Thoughts! Thanks!

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Re: Pharmaceutical Companies want to take away your right to grow your own

Pharm companies are paranoid about at least 20% of the money changing hands and coming out of their deep pockets....that is the reason that marijuana stays prohibited...we must stand up and retain our power and not succumb to the big brother out there...We need our chance to grow our own medicine!
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Re: Pharmaceutical Companies want to take away your right to grow your own

Pharmaceutical companies don't like the idea of people growing their own medicine any more than the liquor industry likes the thought of people making their own liquor. Yes, it is illegal to distill your own spirits - even though liquor "prohibition" was theoretically discarded by constitutional amendment. Prior to prohibition you could make your own whiskey, brandy, whatever - now that prohibition is "over" that is still illegal (wine and beer are ok). If you can persuade a reputable provider of distilling apparatus to sell you enough to make a reasonable amount of whiskey (I'm NOT talking about enough to make a living by selling), that will bring you a visit from some very curious federal officers. Why? The liquor industry doesn't like competition and pays well for federal protection.
One of the pitfalls of federal "legalization" of marijuana, for example, would be the "fine print" that places the production and distribution of this in the hands of the pharmaceutical industry. For our own safety, of course, because you never know what some unreliable pot user might grow in the backyard, couldn't guarantee the potency, etc. - might even make you go blind, or grow long green tendrils or lead to deformed births!
Care is needed here. We have been very fortunate in CA. If we are lucky, federal law would be based on CA law, as CA has been a leader of the nation many times. We need a good legalization law that could potentially serve as an example for the rest of the country, no reason not to give Big Pharma a place at the table, but clearly leave other options open for the rest of us.
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