[420love]

Med MJ is sort of an industry.. with shops booming in LA. It's not supposed to be, it's suppose to be non profit, but it is an industry because of the millions that pass hands each day.

My question is, when the proposed legalization measures pass, whichever one of the three does - what will the impact be on the medical marijuana industry?

Will clinics be forced to change their business model (Example Green Cross renames to Green Club). How exactly will it work? Do you think there will be bars/cafe's etc.. or will weed be so common you can buy it at the local store or bar that allows it? Do you think new markets will open for people to sell weed online or open State Permitted pot bars/cafes/shops? How will the game work?

[VooDoo Chile]

Originally Posted by 420love

Med MJ is sort of an industry.. with shops booming in LA. It's not supposed to be, it's suppose to be non profit, but it is an industry because of the millions that pass hands each day.

My question is, when the proposed legalization measures pass, whichever one of the three does - what will the impact be on the medical marijuana industry?

Will clinics be forced to change their business model (Example Green Cross renames to Green Club). How exactly will it work? Do you think there will be bars/cafe's etc.. or will weed be so common you can buy it at the local store or bar that allows it? Do you think new markets will open for people to sell weed online or open State Permitted pot bars/cafes/shops? How will the game work?

Hang on. Imma consult mah crystal ball 'n get back to ya.

[DankJews]

Hahahahh. Yes I Can Get On This But I'm So Medicated After Driving To LA Back N Forth Today From SD. I Will Have A Post Later On Tonight Or First Thing Tomorrow! Wonderful Question! I Can't Wait To See The Responses!

.:Stay Medicated:.

[Smilodon]

There is a lot of confusion on this board now about this. The polemic is recreational use or medical use. MMJ will not change due to the law, clubs will still operate under whatever regulations we finally get. In the meantime across the street a recreational resource for MJ will open and operate under a whole new set of regulations, hopefully similar to liquor stores.

Its apples and oranges.

[Justonevoice]

Originally Posted by 420love

Med MJ is sort of an industry.. with shops booming in LA. It's not supposed to be, it's suppose to be non profit, but it is an industry because of the millions that pass hands each day.

My question is, when the proposed legalization measures pass, whichever one of the three does - what will the impact be on the medical marijuana industry?

Will clinics be forced to change their business model (Example Green Cross renames to Green Club). How exactly will it work? Do you think there will be bars/cafe's etc.. or will weed be so common you can buy it at the local store or bar that allows it? Do you think new markets will open for people to sell weed online or open State Permitted pot bars/cafes/shops? How will the game work?

Two questions:
1).How many people are employed by the Red Cross.
2). How much money does the CEO of that Non-Profit Organization make per year?

[Justonevoice]

Originally Posted by Smilodon

There is a lot of confusion on this board now about this. The polemic is recreational use or medical use. MMJ will not change due to the law, clubs will still operate under whatever regulations we finally get. In the meantime across the street a recreational resource for MJ will open and operate under a whole new set of regulations, hopefully similar to liquor stores.

Its apples and oranges.

Exactly,While many people want to put them into the same pot too cook they do not blend well and it is a totally two different recipies.This is what has been learned from "The L.A. Experience".

[mikesong]

I think the existing MMJ infrastructure would turn legal and that scares the shit out of a lot of people, and this is probably the biggest reason they're cracking down now. They probably hope that a crackdown will discourage people from voting to legalize (I think it will have the opposite effect) and if they lose they want to have fewer people in the game when it gets legalized. The effect for the clubs, I think, will be more regulation in trade for more profits.

[Davyl]

Unfortunately if it were "legalized" completely like alcohol or something, then Phillip Morris and the other big tobacco companies would simply change their business model and there would be huge cannabis fields where the tobacco now grows... NOT WHAT I WANT!! I don't want a "McJoint" or a "Quarter (P)ouncer of the Cheese"

[Sharkey]

What will happen to all the docs who make a living writing recs?

[CarlSagan]

Originally Posted by Sharkey

What will happen to all the docs who make a living writing recs?

My guess is a few legit mmj docs will remain...giving out recs and consultations...

but they'll be an end to any "paper mills" I suspect

...unless mmj is cheaper/better than recreational mj (rmj?)

so...perhaps a few of these docs (the bottom of the barrel) will loose volume and go back to doing whatever they did before (writer prescriptions for vicodin etc).

i hope there will be two markets, one for mmj and one for rmj. and hopefully the mmj will be inexpensive and high quality...and the rmj will be cheaper and better than it is today...

o and more importantly...

I'd like to be able to medicate in public without fear of LEO, etc.

I'd like to be able to medicate anywhere that people can smoke cigarettes...(except maybe in a car)

As mmj patients, we shouldnt be satisfied until mmj is covered by health insurance prescription plans.

I should have to pay $15 (or whatever) a month for mmj, like all of my other meds.

[DankJews]

Sorry For Such A Late Response Back! But Here It Goes! So I Believe When The Repulsion Of Prohibition Will Occur There Will Be Many Changes To The Way Things Are Seen And Run By MMJ And The MJ Movement In General. As Prohibition Will Be Repelled It Will A. Allow For The Major Pharmaceutical Companies To Do Extensive Research And Create Cannabinoid Based Medicines(Topical Ointment, Pills, Liquids, Ect.). Which Would Take All Medicinal Values Of Our Community Away And B. Create A Wide Recreational Community That Is Acceptable Of Cannabis. In This Case I Have A HUGE Feeling Things Will Be Run My Major Government Lobbyist Funded Organizations (Philip Morris And The Major Tobacco Companies As Well As Major Pharmaceutical Firms). I Know People Would Not Like To See It Become Legal That Way But I Think For It To Make It To That Legality It Would Have To Be Run And Regulated By Such Enterprises. I Believe In An Economy Which Accept The Use Of Cannabis We Will See Many "Coffee Shops" And Locations Where The Use Of Purchased Cannabis For An Above Age Limit Personal Is Accepted Legally. This Type Of Industry And Community Would Bring In Such Massive Revenue, This Country Has Never Seen Such! I Feel As If The Pharmaceutical Firms Were To Take Over The Cannabinoids It Would Be Available In The Same Form An Way As You Receive Other Medications Daily. It Would Be Interesting To See What The Outcome Will Be Next Year! Lets Just Hope For The Best! That's My Thoughts, I Aint Down For Any Flamers So Juss Keep It To Yourself If You Got Sumin' To Say, You'll Be Wasting My Time As Of Yours As Well! Thanks Have A Wonderful Night!


.:Stay Medicated:.

[Puff Now Pay Later]

Hopefully California will become the new better "Amsterdam". People from all over the world would flock over to experience the "Cannafornia" experience. Tourism will sky-rocket. Maybe we could get the Cannabis Cup to migrate here as well. Demand would surely increase and so would supply, as long as we can still grow our own with better regulations (plant limits)...Hell, I wouldn't mind paying the State a fee for a "grower's license".


I'm just an optimist...I guess.

[ecxtky]

If the mmj industry is finally legalized, the government would have to impose
age limit on use. Allow for sale through the same dispensaries and collectives. With one exeption, medical facilities and recreational facilities. The medical buildings would serve its purpose by growing top quality, therapeutical cannabis, and distribute it to it's patients. Patients would be allowed to grow their own if they choose to do so. Hopefully, Pharmaceuticals take some part in it, and allow for research. If pharmaceuticals take part, and find medical uses... which they will. The insurance company will have to get involved and cover some qualified patients. Otherwise, the Pharmaceutical and Medical Insurance industries would miss out on a very lucrative treatment form.
The recreational facilities would allow for growing of different types of cannabis. Allowing it's member numbers to remain low, this would allow for control. Places could open almost anywhere, except near school grounds. Every building should be revised, and redeemed safe in all aspects for all its members. Just like in mmj buildings, rmj facilites would allow for a grow your own option. All this would only allow person 21 and over.
If you are caught driving high, you get a dui... Just like it is now. Nothing changes, if you do the crime, then you must do the time. Penalties are payed just as if you were caught driving drunk!
Allowing for a legalized medical and personal use of cannabis in public would be sensitive. Just like drinking in public except, you may smoke in public, however, you may be sensitive to your surroundings. Absolutely! No cannabis smoking around children. Unless your health deficiency calls for it.
Legalized medical cannabis, opens for personal use legalization, and therefore, leads to a revolutionazing Hemp industry... Imagine, cars so light that they would conserve fuel by a possible 40%. Fabrics for both commercial and industrial use. Nearly 50% Protein based food... Seeds would help feed many. Oils can be created and researched to allow for a new oil based fuel, one that can be grown yearly, at a free cost of the sun.
Perhaps I am dreaming big, but we have to dream big to obtain big results.
Our nation could be once again the leader, the leader on green renewable energy.

[oopsitooted]

Nice!!

[bushka]

$4 caps at walmart LOL !

[papeanut]

I believe if the government gets involved then they will decide who can do what and it will go to the big companies. When it is legalized I believe each state should handle it themselves and the gov. should only stipulate the rules and regulations.

[ZENITH]

Its too late...u.s..patents are allready applied for..

Bayer..i.e.. GW pharma have bought all the dutch and other seed lines..

they will seek legal action against those who grow any patient cannabis that is not under there supervision..

in my opinion...they may work with monsanto..to develope a dna tag system that not only identifies there patent cannabis..but also will not allow cannabis to germinate unless the exact chemical mixed with water that allows the seed to germinate...

with airbourne pollination..this dna tag will interdreed with the worlds cannabis..rendering there secret germination PATIENT lock to spread to all strains..even commercial hemp..and mabie hop plants.

GET YOUR GENETICS NOW!..THEN MAKE A CLEAN ROOM ENVIROMENT.


CLICK HERE....below.


GWPharma - Cultivation

[mikesong]

It's too bad all you potsmokers' ability to come up with insane conspiracy theories can't be harnessed for some positive creative use.

[ecxtky]

Originally Posted by ZENITH

Its too late...u.s..patents are allready applied for..

Bayer..i.e.. GW pharma have bought all the dutch and other seed lines..

they will seek legal action against those who grow any patient cannabis that is not under there supervision..

in my opinion...they may work with monsanto..to develope a dna tag system that not only identifies there patent cannabis..but also will not allow cannabis to germinate unless the exact chemical mixed with water that allows the seed to germinate...

with airbourne pollination..this dna tag will interdreed with the worlds cannabis..rendering there secret germination PATIENT lock to spread to all strains..even commercial hemp..and mabie hop plants.

GET YOUR GENETICS NOW!..THEN MAKE A CLEAN ROOM ENVIROMENT.


CLICK HERE....below.


GWPharma - Cultivation

Yes! And that's fine. Medical grade cannabis would have to be grown and researched in this aspect in order to provide the very best therapeutic treatment for patients in need.
However, the recreational aspect would be much more extensive.
Allowing for different types to be grown, since we have indica and sativa preference. It would have to allow for grows of different types, because marijuana isn't just weed as the city attorney likes to put it. Some of us do enjoy it like a glass of wine. It should taste and smoke good. And the effect should be superb. Same as it should be for medical grade if you choose to smoke for instead of other ingestion methods.
People should be allowed to grow their own in their backyard. Since, not everyone is likely to go spend an hour or more at their local dispensary and smoke, and pay a fee to be allowed to grow your own there. Because, once legalized, people would find ways to charge for a lot of its uses, and to grow for you. It would be a hobbie that probably most house wives would like to take on, and their husbands would probably allow for it.
Lets face it, cannabis prohibition is one of those well told lies the government and corporations have had a grip on for decades. Now this mind set is changing, and along with the change comes good things. For a average citizen would no longer be a criminal by simply possessing a flower from a naturally grown plant. It would be like putting thousands of man and woman in jail on valentines day.... Or would it...

[Smilodon]

These kinds of rumors have been floating around for over 40 years. At that time it was rumored that Phillip Morris had the brand name patent or some such thing on the names Acapulco Gold and Panama Red.

I suspect there is some truth to all of it, the obvious glaring fact is that they can't win that game because of the natural creativity of our group, as mikesong pointed out above . Phillip Morris and pharma are always going to be trying to catch the wave. Let them patent 'kush' and 'og', we will breed and name strains 'celestial glow and 'holland house' and they will try to patent those names and strains.

"mr. businessman, you can't dress like me"
H

[ecxtky]

Pharmaceuticals would try and probably succeed, since, they have vast amounts of money to own this patents. However, can you patent something god created? Can you patent roses? vegetables? anything that grows from the dirt? Hmm, I wonder. They may be able to patent extravagant names of strains, but underneath all the fancy names, and patent #'s lays the true strain. Whether, og, or trainwreck, or blue dream, it would still be just that. So, the owning of the patent is really an owning of the name, not the strain.
Tylenol Kush anyone? It's better than regular tylenol, because it does not upset my stomach. Thats how it would play off.
I would still be allowed to grow my none patented strain... I hope...

[tooweirdtolivetooraretodie]

I can see mj following something closer to but not exactly like, alcohol laws.
Under current laws, you can possess alcohol if you're over 21. I'm not sure there's an actual limit on how much alcohol you are allowed to purchase and possess. At a certain point it would become a health and safety issue, due to it's volatility.
However, you're not allowed to have a still and make hard alcohol. I think that is true in all 50 states? And you're only allowed to make around 200 gallons of more diluted alcohol per year. You're not allowed to legally sell any of it.
So legalization would likely follow that you could only grow a certain amount. Hopefully, quite a bit more than currently allowed. Solvent Hashes would likely remain illegal, for health and safety reasons.
Sick people who can't grow will still need places to purchase, high quality, specialized at least in sanitation and organic quality. This could be similar in structure and taxation to a microbrewery or winery. Someone licensed for production and sales on a much smaller than scale than the industrial type providers.
The industrial type providers, could be anyone with the funds, but would likely come from "big pharma" "big alcohol" or "big tobacco". They all have the ability to produce a lot of standardized product, pre packaged and ready for sale at every retail level that all their other products go to already. Everything from 7-11 to costco.
This would seem to be easiest and best. It does not necessarily cut out foreign cartels. They can still grow and produce, just as many foreign alcohol products are imported, so could weed. It would force them into a structured and taxable business model, at least in our country. While still providing them with very little change to their existing production base and with a small investment in testing, processing, packaging etc. They would easily make that money back in what they would not be losing to leo seizure as their shipping and sales model would not involve loss to leo anymore.
Legalization could work out well for everyone but those who just want to make weed go away completely. And really, F*ck those people, we outnumber them.

[VooDoo Chile]

Originally Posted by Smilodon

These kinds of rumors have been floating around for over 40 years. At that time it was rumored that Phillip Morris had the brand name patent or some such thing on the names Acapulco Gold and Panama Red.

I suspect there is some truth to all of it, the obvious glaring fact is that they can't win that game because of the natural creativity of our group, as mikesong pointed out above . Phillip Morris and pharma are always going to be trying to catch the wave. Let them patent 'kush' and 'og', we will breed and name strains 'celestial glow and 'holland house' and they will try to patent those names and strains.

"mr. businessman, you can't dress like me"
H

Have I mentioned that I absolutely adore ya, Smilodon? Keep wavin' your freak flag high, baby!

[Smilodon]

Originally Posted by VooDoo Chile

Have I mentioned that I absolutely adore ya, Smilodon? Keep wavin' your freak flag high, baby!

VooDoo and Babyboomer redefining the image of Valley Girls every time they post, lol. Intelligence and good taste weren't previously in my inventory when I thought of Valley Girls, hehe. Beauty sure, but good sense?

How can I ignore the determined devotion and unarguable musical pallet that demonstrates a multi-faceted and visceral understanding of the music that will endure forever.

btw, if you see these two coming your way I suggest you assume a comfortable neutral position, lol.

[DankJews]

Hahaha That's Funny Smilodon!! Can't Go Wrong With Those Valley Girls Huh?! Have A Good Day Trackers!


.:Stay Medicated:.