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ShiningSkull · 11-01-2009, 03:08 PM

Fight for Medical Marijuana Dispensaries

Shira Lazar spoke with Normal L.A.'s Bruce Margolin who is fighting against raids of L.A. medical marijuana dispensaries.

DankJews · 11-02-2009, 09:54 AM

Excellent Vid! Thanks!

.:Stay Medicated:.

Sir smokes-A-Lot · 11-02-2009, 09:57 AM

Yeah cool vid and I met Bruce one time when I had a legal question and he is a cool guy.

Deejaycruise · 11-02-2009, 11:09 AM

I wonder when he changed his mind. Back in early 2005 he said dispensaries are illegal and if I open one expect problems and don't ask him for representation if i did open one. He said I should find a lawyer from I did have problems and I did not ask him. WTF. How can he now represent those doing the same thing only 4 1/2 years later. No laws have changed. He is using the other side of the argument now. I guess he decided to cash in on it. I had heard regular marijuana busts are down. He must have needed to adjust his business to where the clients are.
from
cannabisnews.com: Fuzzy Guidelines Create Medical-Pot Haze

"The law has provisions for caregivers but has a vague definition of who qualifies. No caregiver case has reached the appellate level to set a precedent, said Bruce Margolin, an attorney and author of "The Margolin Guide to Marijuana Laws."

"We're in a stage of new territory where the law is being developed as we speak," Margolin said. "This case, involving this guy being a caretaker, has all kinds of hurdles." "

He did not even know the terms. Caretaker uh no, Caregiver. Sure now that all the work is done he comes out and represents those who he used to deny. I guess whatever makes him the most money the easiest is best for him. He should have read the law back in 2005 like the rest of us.

STEVE-O · 11-02-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Deejaycruise

I wonder when he changed his mind. Back in early 2005 he said dispensaries are illegal and if I open one expect problems and don't ask him for representation if i did open one. He said I should find a lawyer from I did have problems and I did not ask him. WTF. How can he now represent those doing the same thing only 4 1/2 years later. No laws have changed. He is using the other side of the argument now. I guess he decided to cash in on it. I had heard regular marijuana busts are down. He must have needed to adjust his business to where the clients are.
from
cannabisnews.com: Fuzzy Guidelines Create Medical-Pot Haze

"The law has provisions for caregivers but has a vague definition of who qualifies. No caregiver case has reached the appellate level to set a precedent, said Bruce Margolin, an attorney and author of "The Margolin Guide to Marijuana Laws."

"We're in a stage of new territory where the law is being developed as we speak," Margolin said. "This case, involving this guy being a caretaker, has all kinds of hurdles." "

He did not even know the terms. Caretaker uh no, Caregiver. Sure now that all the work is done he comes out and represents those who he used to deny. I guess whatever makes him the most money the easiest is best for him. He should have read the law back in 2005 like the rest of us.

He changed his tune...when the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ started lining his pockets from the dispensary owners !!

Money does strange things to people,most of them, not good !!

BrattonBasher · 11-02-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Deejaycruise

I wonder when he changed his mind. Back in early 2005 he said dispensaries are illegal and if I open one expect problems and don't ask him for representation if i did open one. He said I should find a lawyer from I did have problems and I did not ask him. WTF. How can he now represent those doing the same thing only 4 1/2 years later. No laws have changed. He is using the other side of the argument now. I guess he decided to cash in on it. I had heard regular marijuana busts are down. He must have needed to adjust his business to where the clients are.
from
cannabisnews.com: Fuzzy Guidelines Create Medical-Pot Haze

"The law has provisions for caregivers but has a vague definition of who qualifies. No caregiver case has reached the appellate level to set a precedent, said Bruce Margolin, an attorney and author of "The Margolin Guide to Marijuana Laws."

"We're in a stage of new territory where the law is being developed as we speak," Margolin said. "This case, involving this guy being a caretaker, has all kinds of hurdles." "

He did not even know the terms. Caretaker uh no, Caregiver. Sure now that all the work is done he comes out and represents those who he used to deny. I guess whatever makes him the most money the easiest is best for him. He should have read the law back in 2005 like the rest of us.

I believe Bruce Margolin over you anyday. You just nay-say everything. In fact a couple of posts back you declared Trutanich "won", and there was no reason to put up a fight. Bullshit!

Deejaycruise · 11-02-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

I believe Bruce Margolin over you anyday. You just nay-say everything. In fact a couple of posts back you declared Trutanich "won", and there was no reason to put up a fight. Bullshit!

You need to read his book. Not the current version, the version from back in 2004, 2005, 2006 Todays version has some case history from 2007 and the AG's guidelines (where he uses an incorrect date) and includes his new found acceptance.

What you fail to understand is not that there is no reason to put up a fight, the time to determine who gets to participate in the fight was decided long ago, Bruce did not want to be a part of the fight back then, but like all them dispensaries in Los Angeles that popped up after mid 2006, they want to reap the bounty that others have fought for. If any one of those lazy bastards wanted to do something they could easily had a fight in 2007 or 2008 in San Bernardino or Riverside or Orange. NO, fuck no, they go to los angeles where its easy. NOW, they are moving into Orange when its easy and San Bernardino now that its easy and Now in riverside now that its easy. But they still do not go into Cities where a fight could be had, where they could actually be something other than a PROFITEER. Where they could be a PIONEER. It aint about the PROFIT its about the PROGRESS.

VooDoo Chile · 11-02-2009, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Deejaycruise

You need to read his book. Not the current version, the version from back in 2004, 2005, 2006 Todays version has some case history from 2007 and the AG's guidelines (where he uses an incorrect date) and includes his new found acceptance.

What you fail to understand is not that there is no reason to put up a fight, the time to determine who gets to participate in the fight was decided long ago, Bruce did not want to be a part of the fight back then, but like all them dispensaries in Los Angeles that popped up after mid 2006, they want to reap the bounty that others have fought for. If any one of those lazy bastards wanted to do something they could easily had a fight in 2007 or 2008 in San Bernardino or Riverside or Orange. NO, fuck no, they go to los angeles where its easy. NOW, they are moving into Orange when its easy and San Bernardino now that its easy and Now in riverside now that its easy. But they still do not go into Cities where a fight could be had, where they could actually be something other than a PROFITEER. Where they could be a PIONEER. It aint about the PROFIT its about the PROGRESS.

Way to prove BB right!

Da' Cookie Man · 11-02-2009, 04:28 PM

I also liked that the video runs 4:20 min :-)

Should be interesting to see what happens next and how busy he will be.

gmoney666 · 11-06-2009, 01:28 PM

that lawyer is in it for the money. his right. but understand why he fights.

BrattonBasher · 11-06-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gmoney666

that lawyer is in it for the money. his right. but understand why he fights.

All lawyers are in it for the money, my friend. I am praying my older son changes his mind about being a lawyer, but he wants to be rich.

mikebig 9078 · 11-06-2009, 01:43 PM

lawyers are necsasary evil,a person who represents himself in court has a fool for a client

VooDoo Chile · 11-06-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

All lawyers are in it for the money, my friend. I am praying my older son changes his mind about being a lawyer, but he wants to be rich.

Oh that's easy--- tell'em the truth. Tell him that if he wants to be rich, law school is definitely NOT the way to go. First off, he's gonna graduate with a mound of debt. He will most likely spend the first 20 some odd years of his career paying off it off. And unless he plans on going into corporate or entertainment law, getting rich is highly unlikely. If he decides to practice in either of those areas, he still ain't gonna get rich unless he makes partner in some massive law firm.

Even graduates from the top tier law schools in the nation are having a hard time getting hired right now.

BrattonBasher · 11-06-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VooDoo Chile

Oh that's easy--- tell'em the truth. Tell him that if he wants to be rich, law school is definitely NOT the way to go. First off, he's gonna graduate with a mound of debt. He will most likely spend the first 20 some odd years of his career paying off it off. And unless he plans on going into corporate or entertainment law, getting rich is highly unlikely. If he decides to practice in either of those areas, he still ain't gonna get rich unless he makes partner in some massive law firm.

Even graduates from the top tier law schools in the nation are having a hard time getting hired right now.

Yeah, lawyers are a dime a dozen right now.

E.T. · 11-06-2009, 02:32 PM

Bruce Margolin did not defend me when I came to his office back in 1998 after I was arrested for cultivation. Why? Because I couldn't cough up enough money. Instead, he sent me to a nearby office where I was swindled by a lawyer (not going to name) who BS'd me for some money and this lawyer's license, I later found out, was revoked.

Needless to say, I think Mr. Margolin is only in it for the money. If you don't have the money, even though you have a strong and potentially landmark case, he won't give a rat's a$$.

STEVE-O · 11-06-2009, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E.T.

Bruce Margolin did not defend me when I came to his office back in 1998 after I was arrested for cultivation. Why? Because I couldn't cough up enough money. Instead, he sent me to a nearby office where I was swindled by a lawyer (not going to name) who BS'd me for some money and this lawyer's license, I later found out, was revoked.

Needless to say, I think Mr. Margolin is only in it for the money. If you don't have the money, even though you have a strong and potentially landmark case, he won't give a rat's a$$.

I believe you brother......without a big retainer, most wont be bothered. ( unless it is a juicy Personal Injury case, then they tend to salivate ) !! based on personal exp.

STEVE-O

P.S. BM...funny that those are his initials, IMHO is a total POSER- $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

BrattonBasher · 11-06-2009, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E.T.

Bruce Margolin did not defend me when I came to his office back in 1998 after I was arrested for cultivation. Why? Because I couldn't cough up enough money. Instead, he sent me to a nearby office where I was swindled by a lawyer (not going to name) who BS'd me for some money and this lawyer's license, I later found out, was revoked.

Needless to say, I think Mr. Margolin is only in it for the money. If you don't have the money, even though you have a strong and potentially landmark case, he won't give a rat's a$$.

Sadly, principle and the right thing do not pay rent or salary. Thats the real world. This lawyer has expenses like any lawyer. It is just not realistic to expect something for nothing.

VooDoo Chile · 11-06-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

Sadly, principle and the right thing do not pay rent or salary. Thats the real world. This lawyer has expenses like any lawyer. It is just not realistic to expect something for nothing.

I'll second that. I think there's a big ole double standard when it comes to lawyers. You wouldn't go into a restaurant say hey, I'm really seriously starving. Can ya hook ya me up with some food even though I won't be paying for it? No. So why would ya expect a lawyer to give ya something for nothing based on an abstract moral principle?

Ya need to understand that lawyers ask for a retainer because some clients will skip out on them. That's a fact.

rafghani · 11-06-2009, 04:04 PM

Very expensive!!!

rafghani · 11-06-2009, 04:06 PM

lawyers r vampires & money is blood...

E.T. · 11-06-2009, 05:39 PM

Who said anything about free? I said it was because I couldn't produce enough money. He wanted 5 times what his sleezball counterpart wanted(who by the way practiced law without a valid license while he supposedly represented me).

Mr. Margolin has benefitted quite nicely from prohibition and enforcement. No wonder why he is for regulation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

Sadly, principle and the right thing do not pay rent or salary. Thats the real world. This lawyer has expenses like any lawyer. It is just not realistic to expect something for nothing.

VooDoo Chile · 11-06-2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E.T.

Who said anything about free? I said it was because I couldn't produce enough money. He wanted 5 times what his sleezball counterpart wanted(who by the way practiced law without a valid license while he supposedly represented me).

Mr. Margolin has benefitted quite nicely from prohibition and enforcement. No wonder why he is for regulation.

If he benefits so much from prohibition, why would he favor regulation? Wouldn't he want to keep it either illegal or up in legal limbo land?

**labrat** · 11-06-2009, 05:59 PM

easy,and real fast !!! these high profile liers could get together and demand that we get our med!!! hahahahaha but if they did!!!! they would have to back to defending drunk drivers!!! real quick !!! ive been in manny a court cases regarding MMJ !!! the best lawyers i have had were public defenders!!!! they need to win cases !!!! and not just plea bargain out!!! sure some are ass holes !!! but you have a right to fire the P.D. if he is not doing his job!!!! and hire you a lier!!! lab rasta

OldTroll · 11-07-2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E.T.

Needless to say, I think Mr. Margolin is only in it for the money.

Aren't most people with jobs in it for the money?

-OT

**labrat** · 11-08-2009, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTroll

Aren't most people with jobs in it for the money?

-OT

NOPE !!!!! EVERYBODY IS A VOLENTEER!!!! AND ALL THE CO OPS ARE NON PROFIT!!! peace lab rat

11-01-2009, 03:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
ShiningSkull real real gone Join Date: Mar 2008 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 1,238 Rep Power: 129898	Bruce Margolin interview on October raids, LA attorneys office Fight for Medical Marijuana Dispensaries Shira Lazar spoke with Normal L.A.'s Bruce Margolin who is fighting against raids of L.A. medical marijuana dispensaries.

11-02-2009, 09:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
DankJews .:Stay Medicated:. Join Date: Apr 2008 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 655 Rep Power: 42763	Re: Bruce Margolin interview on October raids, LA attorneys office Excellent Vid! Thanks! .:Stay Medicated:.

11-02-2009, 09:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
Sir smokes-A-Lot DARE to keep cops off doughnuts Join Date: Dec 2006 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 678 Rep Power: 22534	Re: Bruce Margolin interview on October raids, LA attorneys office Yeah cool vid and I met Bruce one time when I had a legal question and he is a cool guy.

11-02-2009, 11:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
Deejaycruise Antagonist kind of activist, with a tude Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denial Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: yes Posts: 283 Rep Power: 5112	Re: Bruce Margolin interview on October raids, LA attorneys office I wonder when he changed his mind. Back in early 2005 he said dispensaries are illegal and if I open one expect problems and don't ask him for representation if i did open one. He said I should find a lawyer from I did have problems and I did not ask him. WTF. How can he now represent those doing the same thing only 4 1/2 years later. No laws have changed. He is using the other side of the argument now. I guess he decided to cash in on it. I had heard regular marijuana busts are down. He must have needed to adjust his business to where the clients are. from cannabisnews.com: Fuzzy Guidelines Create Medical-Pot Haze "The law has provisions for caregivers but has a vague definition of who qualifies. No caregiver case has reached the appellate level to set a precedent, said Bruce Margolin, an attorney and author of "The Margolin Guide to Marijuana Laws." "We're in a stage of new territory where the law is being developed as we speak," Margolin said. "This case, involving this guy being a caretaker, has all kinds of hurdles." " He did not even know the terms. Caretaker uh no, Caregiver. Sure now that all the work is done he comes out and represents those who he used to deny. I guess whatever makes him the most money the easiest is best for him. He should have read the law back in 2005 like the rest of us.

11-02-2009, 04:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
Da' Cookie Man Hi, Im New! Join Date: Sep 2009 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 22 Rep Power: 0	Re: Bruce Margolin interview on October raids, LA attorneys office I also liked that the video runs 4:20 min :-) Should be interesting to see what happens next and how busy he will be.

11-06-2009, 01:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
gmoney666 Bull @#$% Join Date: Oct 2006 Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES Posts: 616 Rep Power: 1630	Re: Bruce Margolin interview on October raids, LA attorneys office that lawyer is in it for the money. his right. but understand why he fights.

11-06-2009, 01:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
mikebig 9078 WT Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: san berdoo Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 144 Rep Power: 1176	Re: Bruce Margolin interview on October raids, LA attorneys office lawyers are necsasary evil,a person who represents himself in court has a fool for a client

11-06-2009, 02:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
E.T. Hi, Im New! Join Date: Oct 2009 Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	Re: Bruce Margolin interview on October raids, LA attorneys office Bruce Margolin did not defend me when I came to his office back in 1998 after I was arrested for cultivation. Why? Because I couldn't cough up enough money. Instead, he sent me to a nearby office where I was swindled by a lawyer (not going to name) who BS'd me for some money and this lawyer's license, I later found out, was revoked. Needless to say, I think Mr. Margolin is only in it for the money. If you don't have the money, even though you have a strong and potentially landmark case, he won't give a rat's a$$.

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rafghani I nEEd Ma GreenZ!!! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: so. cal Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Re: Bruce Margolin interview on October raids, LA attorneys office Very expensive!!!

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rafghani I nEEd Ma GreenZ!!! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: so. cal Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Re: Bruce Margolin interview on October raids, LA attorneys office lawyers r vampires & money is blood...

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labrat Reel stoned Join Date: Jan 2006 Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 4,149 Rep Power: 66455	Re: Bruce Margolin interview on October raids, LA attorneys office easy,and real fast !!! these high profile liers could get together and demand that we get our med!!! hahahahaha but if they did!!!! they would have to back to defending drunk drivers!!! real quick !!! ive been in manny a court cases regarding MMJ !!! the best lawyers i have had were public defenders!!!! they need to win cases !!!! and not just plea bargain out!!! sure some are ass holes !!! but you have a right to fire the P.D. if he is not doing his job!!!! and hire you a lier!!! lab rasta labrat says..GOLD LABLE 100 PROOF !!!!! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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