[windsor74]

According to a banner ad here, the doc who issued my rec had his med licsense revoked.
The banner ad suggests that my rec will be invalid soon.
My old docs website states that he left to join another organization and that another doc is taking over. The LA office is stated as closed on a "temp" basis but one is in so orange county.
Wondering if my rec is good until it expires in nov?
I'm thinking that this may impact alot of folks here. Its very upsetting to me.
Not sure about rules on posting the docs name.

[zbestwun2001]

Originally Posted by windsor74

According to a banner ad here, the doc who issued my rec had his med licsense revoked.
The banner ad suggests that my rec will be invalid soon.

If you doctor doesn't have a valid license to practice medicine then your rec. would be invalid also, this has happened before unfortunately to others.

zb1

[windsor74]

OK.
Looks like I have until 4/24(when the liscence is revoked) to find a renewal.
I've been spoiled(until now) with easy verification and am looking for easy again.
What a shame for his patients.

[gar3618]

the banner gave a link for another cheaper renewal for patients recommended under that doctor.. but not sure if you want to stay with the same company.

[mikebig 9078]

docs name ?

[windsor74]

The docs name is Alfonso Jimenez and I imagine that he has many recs that are current.

[KuShRoCC]

What the freak, that's my doc too.

[windsor74]

I'm surprised that this isn't getting more attention because it affects alot of patients.

[allorganic]

You can see the CA Medical Board's official ruling on Doctor Jimenez HERE

If you are curious about the state of any other physician's license, you can look them up at the CA Dept of Consumer Affairs website HERE

[Medpatient]

I feel bad for anyone who went through jimenez but that is what happens when you are concerned about getting a cheap rec. If any of you would have done your homework prior to running down to him you would have known that he has been investigated for some time now and this was coming.

I am sorry but not doing your homework is your own faults.

[satch]

So when a doctor loses his license what he did while practicing is void?
I know a rec is different than a prescription but would a prescription be voided too? I would think that if it were written while he was legally practicing it would still be valid for the full term.

[In_Hollywood]

Thanks for posting this site, for people o check their Drs. out! =Judy=
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[Nailhead]

Originally Posted by windsor74

My old docs website states that he left to join another organization and that another doc is taking over. The LA office is stated as closed on a "temp" basis but one is in so orange county.

I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but if the doctors at the orange county location are with the same company, shouldn't they give you a free renewal, at least to extend it to the time it was due to expire under the previous doctor. That would be fair and that's what I'd seek, just don't pay them any money because they should do it for free. If they ask to see your wallet I'd just give them your middle finger and go elsewhere.

[RelaxationExpress]

Originally Posted by satch

So when a doctor loses his license what he did while practicing is void?
I know a rec is different than a prescription but would a prescription be voided too? I would think that if it were written while he was legally practicing it would still be valid for the full term.

The problem is the same, if a doctor losses his license to practice on Tues and you went to him and got a script for blood pressure med's on Mon and waited till Wed to take it in to get filled, I am pretty sure you would be denied and need to see another doctor for your blood pressure med's. But if you had gotten the meds on Monday then it's not like you have to take them back on Wed.

[zbestwun2001]

Originally Posted by RelaxationExpress

The problem is the same, if a doctor losses his license to practice on Tues and you went to him and got a script for blood pressure med's on Mon and waited till Wed to take it in to get filled, I am pretty sure you would be denied and need to see another doctor for your blood pressure med's. But if you had gotten the meds on Monday then it's not like you have to take them back on Wed.

That's probably true, but if that medication had refills on it would they be honored?
Being that the rec. is usually for a one year period, if the MD lost his ticket during that year, everything from when he lost it would be null and void I think?

[ZSIRCHER]

Everybody relax. They have been targeting the good ole' doc for years. He is by far the most compassionate doctor around. He is a big part of the MMJ movement and is not a fly by night doc. He will make it right for everyone. He is in the works of correcting this. fight(legal isssues)

All patients he will(has) made it right.-he has already completed an addendum.

All shops should expcept rec. with the addendum attached.

[hellcat]

Fortunately this was not my doctor but does anyone know WHY they pulled his license. It takes a lot to revoke a doctors license.

[naimad1234]

That sux, i'm checking my docs status asap

[Ivy]

Thanks to the head's up from another member of this community I have been in touch with Dr. J. Here is a letter that he requested to be shared with his patients on this site.

Dear Patients, Lawyers, Collectives, Dispensaries and Delivery Systems,

Some of you probably already know that Dr. Jimenez Medical License has been revoked. Please note that all Medical Marijuana Recommendations, issued by Dr. Jimenez DOESN’T NEED to be replaced, as Dr. Bob Blake, MD agreed to continue to monitor Dr. Jimenez patients’ conditions and provide advice on their progress while on Medical Marijuana. This is the common practice in the medical community, and happens when a doctor retires, or leaves a medical practice. Therefore, Dr. Jimenez’s Medical Marijuana recommendations are still valid and should be honored by any Dispensary, Collective, or Delivery System and law enforcement. (If you have any question, please contact Bruce Margolin, Esq. at 1-800-420-LAWS.)

If still desiring a replacement for whatever reasons, Dr. Blake has agreed to replace all unexpired Dr. Jimenez Medical Marijuana Recommendations free of charge. All Recommendation Replacements require the patient to come to the office in person. There is no appointment necessary. Walk-ins are accepted on Thursdays or Saturdays at Orange County Office:

Medical Marijuana of Orange County/San Diego/Los Angeles/Santa Barbara (MMOC/MMSD/MMLA/MMSB)
28 Monarch Bay Plaza
Suite L
Dana Point, CA. 92629
Telephone: 1.888.215.HERB
Email: drjimenez@drjimenez.org
Fax: 1.808.440.0019

What Happened?

It is a well-known fact that Cannabis Doctors were targets during the era of President Bush Administration. Dr. Jimenez was one of the pioneer doctors of the Marijuana world. He ignored threats from the DA Office, and San Diego police, and continued to write Medical Marijuana Recommendations.

During 2005-2006 years undercover agents from San Diego and Laguna Beach walked into Dr. Jimenez office, and pretended to be patients. An accusation lawsuit was filed against Dr. Jimenez. Later, Dr. Jimenez was offered a settlement. It would allow Dr. Jimenez to practice medicine in exchange of promise to stop doing Medical Marijuana Recommendations. Most physicians had agreed to this, but Dr. Jimenez declined the settlement. Instead, Dr. Jimenez found that it is important to continue doing Medical Marijuana Recommendations. His idea was to build “An Army of Medical Marijuana Supporters.” He believed that every Medical Marijuana Recommendation he made recruited at least ten believers. Dr. Jimenez was able to achieve his goal and wrote 10,000 recommendations which converted to 100,000 supporters of Medical Marijuana movement.

Today, under the President Obama administration, radical changes are happening in the Marijuana world. Dr. Jimenez is proud that he could help to contribute to those changes.

Because of his disagreement to settle, Dr. Jimenez found himself involved into an unfair law suit, which caused the revocation of his Medical License as of April 24, 2009, and prohibited Dr. Jimenez from the medicine practice.

Currently, Dr. Jimenez is appealing the Medical Board decision, and expects to win the appeal. This will result in regaining the right to practice medicine, and to continue the issuance of Medical Marijuana Recommendations.

In addition, Dr. Jimenez is suing the Attorney General’s Office, San Diego DA office, San Diego Police, Laguna Police, and Medical Board in hopes to give Cannabis Doctors protection at a State level. Currently, under Conant V Walters Case Law physicians are protected only at a federal level for issuance of Medical Marijuana Recommendations

We would like to reassure you, that All Patients records have been kept confidential. Our clinics comply with HIPAA-National standards to protect the Privacy of Personal Health Information (http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/hipaa/). It is the policy not to release personal or health information to anyone except to the patient. If medical records are requested, the Patient is required to come in person with a proper identification.

We are happy to report that the clinic is open and now operated by Dr. Blake. If you have any question, please contact Dr. Jimenez office at 1-888-215-HERB or email www.drjimenez@drjimenez.org

Dr. Jimenez appreciates your loyalty and support.


Thank you!
P.S. Attached is the letter of complaint against the DA Attorney of San Diego.
To: Scott J. Drexel
Chief Trial Counsel
The State Bar of California
1149 South Hill Street
10th Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90015-2299

President Barack Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Email: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

From: Dr. Alfonso Jimenez
9663 Santa Monica Blvd., Suite 999
Beverly Hills, CA 90210
TEL: 619-301-4036
Email: drjimenez@drjimenez.org

Subject: COMPLAINT ON SAN DIEGO DISTRICT ATTORNEY BONNIE MICHELLE DUMANIS, # 74343 AND DAMON CRAIG MOSLER, CHIEF OF NARCOTICS DIVISION OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY’S OFFICE, # 150692

Dear Mr. Drexel and President Obama,
I am a physician practicing in the States of California and Hawaii. I am a board certified family practitioner with the American Board of Family Practice, and a Fellow with the American Academy of Family Practice. I also have an extensive background in the Medical Marijuana field.
This is my second formal complaint against DA Bonnie Michelle Dumanis, San Diego District Attorney, # 74343 and Damon Craig Mosler, Chief of Narcotics Division of San Diego County District Attorney’s Office, #150692 regarding misleading comments made to the general public about Medical Marijuana. On October 26, 2006 I wrote a letter to Attorney Dumanis, asking her to stop making comments diminishing the legal status of Medical Marijuana; also I wrote my first formal complaint to your attention (Mr. Drexel), informing the bar about misleading statements about Medical Marijuana made by San Diego District Attorney Dumanis and Chief of Narcotics Division. Importunely, no disciplinary action of any kind was made to stop Attorney Dumanis. Writing this second formal complaint is stressful for many reasons, but patients’ pleading “do something" forces me to be their advocate. This time I am sending the copy of the letter to President Obama.
Attorney Dumanis persistently continues to misinform the general public. Recently she announced a “Big Drug Bust”, where she grouped Medical Marijuana patients with crystal methamphetamine, cocaine and heroin drug offenders. (http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/33-Busted-in-Operation-Endless-Summer.html).
I am strongly supporting the movement towards getting the crystal methamphetamine, cocaine and heroin off the street. Unfortunately, MANY of the arrested people were Medical Marijuana patients. They were entrapped by policemen, who represent themselves as "qualified Medical Marijuana patients.” Undercover policemen fraudulently obtained Medical Marijuana Doctor’s recommendation, pretended they are patients looking for their herbal medicine, purchased small amounts from a legal caregiver/collective delivery service, and then raided the homes of the delivery service owners. I’ve heard from those collective delivery service owners, that police destroyed their property, and took all money they found at the property.
Those raids were done just recently, under President Obama’s new administration, even though Attorney General, Eric Holder, has announced the end of the raids on medical cannabis providers (i.e., Dispensaries, Co-op and Delivery systems). Now it is a GOVERNMENT POLICY!!!
Medical Marijuana is LEGAL. Do we REALLY want our DA to continue destroying the lives of Medical Marijuana patients?
Below is the plea from one of the collective delivery service owners I’ve received last week:

"On Tuesday morning I was thrown on the floor, butt-naked, while 10 cops walked over me… 30 minutes later I was given a towel. They found 35 plants and 3 oz… They charged me with cultivating and possession … with intent to sell. My wife was given the same charges.. She sold some Medical Marijuana to an undercover officer, who had a valid recommendation… She even called his doctor to verify the recommendation (which we always do). They took my son, who is 6 years old, and my daughter, who is 5, to a shelter… They took our kids from us, saying that we had chemicals in the house… even though I grow strictly organic Medical Marijuana. They took my son’s Xbox 360 and his 3 games, took my moms clock, 2 bottles of cologne, 5 of my wife's shirts, if you can believe that... They even ate my kids Popsicles and dropped the wrappers all over the house, and ate a 6 pack of trail mix from our pantry. The only money they found was $1,800 which was my rent that had to be paid that day. They clammed my wife was making profit off selling Medical Marijuana… even though we still have not paid the second deposit on the house, and have $200 dollars in the bank… We are barely making it.. While helping medical marijuana patients my wife was constantly looking for a job, but every time she got it, she was fired 3 months later due to the economy…. We don’t even have our own car, we are renting one.... We are crying out for help to the whole community of San Diego. We have to get our kids back as soon as possible. My wife used to work as an office administrator, and I am also in the medical field (billing insurance)…I also worked with behavior challenged teenagers and Alzheimer's patients… My name is Joey, and my wife is Diana…. We really need the help now..”


During his presidential campaign, President Obama indicated that he would support the controlled use of marijuana for medical purposes, saying he sees no difference between Medical Marijuana and other pain-control drugs. “My attitude is if the science and the doctors suggest that the best palliative care and the way to relieve pain and suffering is medical marijuana, then that’s something I’m open to,” President Obama said in November 2007 at a campaign stop in Audubon, Iowa. “There’s no difference between that and morphine when it comes to just giving people relief from pain.” White House spokesman Nick Shapiro hinted at the policy shift shortly after the California raids, telling The Washington Times that the dispensaries were legal in California and that the Obama administration’s stance was that “federal resources should not be used to circumvent state laws.” (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29433708/)
Currently, Dr. Sterner and myself are suing (law suit attached) DA Attorney Dumanis and staff, San Diego Police Department and Medical Board for a conspiracy against the Medical Marijuana Laws. We found out that the Board of Supervisors (especially Bill Horn) of San Diego Police, San Diego DA's office and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives are acting and working together against the doctors who recommend Medical Marijuana.
On October 20, 2008 we did the deposition of Kimber Bonilla (Case # 00-2006-001760, copy of deposition enclosed). She admitted being trained by the Federal Government (ATF) to "get doctors who are recommending Medical Marijuana during a long-term investigation called “Green-Med Operations.” This is a direct violation of Conant vs. Walters Case Law which gives physicians protection from investigation solely because they issue Medical Marijuana recommendations.
San Diego County is still refusing to implement the Medical Marijuana Laws. The San Diego's DA office, San Diego Police and San Diego Board of Supervisors, and ATF have closed all dispensaries, Co-ops and delivery systems in San Diego. I strongly believe and warn my patients that Medical Marijuana should not purchase from a “Drug Dealer” or from the “Black Market” for their own safety. Now San Diego Medical Marijuana patients are forced to drive to LA or Orange County to obtain their Medical Marijuana.
I recommend conducting the full investigation to reveal the possible conspiracy against the Medical Marijuana Laws. I believe that conspiracy exists in a San Diego District Attorney’s Office (Attorneys Dumanis and Mosler), San Diego Board of Supervisors (Mr. Horn), San Diego Police Department, and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
I also believe you will find acts of Prosecutorial Misconduct with Attorneys Dumanis and Mosler, Civil Rights violations at San Diego Police Department, misuse of Public Office power by Mr. Horn (San Diego Board of Supervisors), and violation of Conant vs. Walters Case Law by the ATF.

Sincerely,
Dr. Alfonso Jimenez
Diplomate, American Board of Family Practice
Fellow, American Academy of Family Physician
Expert Witness
Cannabis Specialist

[danktsebad]

GOOD LOOKING OUT 4 PATIENTS OF HIS. WAY TO B ON TOP OF THE 411 GUYS. 2 LEGIT 2 QUIT! DO THE HOMEWORK B 4 LEAPING.MANY UNAWARE I BET.

[Hymie]

Dr. J's letter wasn't totally clear. I haven't gone to a dispensary since 4/20, so I don't know if the recs still work.

So has anyone successfully used Dr. J's recomendation since 4/24/09? Are they still valid? Do I need to get them replaced?

[medpotwatch]

Wondering just what Jimenez did (or didn't) do and why he lost his license? Check out the Osteopathic Medical Board of California's Case against him - http://medpotcrisis.com/

Good ridens to "doctors" like Jimenez who think they 'help the cause' by 'legalizing' so many patients... NEWS FLASH: those patients were never legal! Sure, they *might* have been able to get into a pot club for a while, but certainly nothing that would actually hold up in a court of law.

Unfortunately, the Jimenez case reveals this sad trend continues—a supposed "good doc" - Dave Bearman - testified on behalf of Jimenez, and totally made a fool of himself and his supposed "gold standard" of care (he could not iterate what his standard was, but he made it clear that his standard was lower than the Medical Board of California's standard—which happens to be the legal standard. Not only was he declared a non-credible witness by the Board, he admitted his own guilt and failing to meet the minimum legal standards defined by the Medical Board... so how long before his case comes before the board?

Worse, Bearman appears to have pushed his less-than-legal standards out to his newly-formed organization, the 'professional' sounding American Academy of Cannabinoid in Medicine group of doctors. Hopefully the legitimate ones bail from this one before they too fall prey to these shoddy practices and anyone who promotes them.

More at:

http://medpotcrisis.com/

[evilstevo]

dr jimenez rec held up in court when i had a possession charge.

Originally Posted by medpotwatch

Wondering just what Jimenez did (or didn't) do and why he lost his license? Check out the Osteopathic Medical Board of California's Case against him - http://medpotcrisis.com/

Good ridens to "doctors" like Jimenez who think they 'help the cause' by 'legalizing' so many patients... NEWS FLASH: those patients were never legal! Sure, they *might* have been able to get into a pot club for a while, but certainly nothing that would actually hold up in a court of law.

Unfortunately, the Jimenez case reveals this sad trend continues—a supposed "good doc" - Dave Bearman - testified on behalf of Jimenez, and totally made a fool of himself and his supposed "gold standard" of care (he could not iterate what his standard was, but he made it clear that his standard was lower than the Medical Board of California's standard—which happens to be the legal standard. Not only was he declared a non-credible witness by the Board, he admitted his own guilt and failing to meet the minimum legal standards defined by the Medical Board... so how long before his case comes before the board?

Worse, Bearman appears to have pushed his less-than-legal standards out to his newly-formed organization, the 'professional' sounding American Academy of Cannabinoid in Medicine group of doctors. Hopefully the legitimate ones bail from this one before they too fall prey to these shoddy practices and anyone who promotes them.

More at:

http://medpotcrisis.com/

[cllindner]

Originally Posted by windsor74

According to a banner ad here, the doc who issued my rec had his med licsense revoked.
The banner ad suggests that my rec will be invalid soon.
My old docs website states that he left to join another organization and that another doc is taking over. The LA office is stated as closed on a "temp" basis but one is in so orange county.
Wondering if my rec is good until it expires in nov?
I'm thinking that this may impact alot of folks here. Its very upsetting to me.
Not sure about rules on posting the docs name.

This one is easy.... The physician who signed your "doctor's letter" aka "physician's recommendation" must be a physician "in good standing" with a valid not suspended physician's license. If your doctor's license got revoked, your letter is no good in court. Get a new physician's letter, NOW. Do not wait for a replacement physician at the old address. Get a new doctor NOW if you plan to keep smoking legally. Your current recommendation has become worthless.

Charles L. "Chuck" Lindner
Attorney at Law
Santa Monica
cllindner@yahoo.com

[swar]

I also had a rec from Dr. J.
I renewed with a great new doc.
I did see some patients being turned away from the farmacy with Dr. j recs.