[raddatatpat]

I have been diabetic for 13 years. Sometimes, it is an uphill battle with producing insulin and keeping sugar levels in check. The pain comes with the battle of your limbs. Often times just walking to the restroom is unbearable. Every day heavy meds gave nausea and headaches although not frequent as they use to be. I am a patient with a recommendation. My problem is recreational users. My problem is the dispensaries operating dirty. My problem is the ease to obtaining a recommendation. My major problem is our City Attorney and the District Attorney. Recreational users represent a big part of Users of MJ. So were on earth were you people during the rally? I see this group as our strength rather than a weakness. With so many of them ranging in the age of 18-26 none of these people were not even old enough to vote for Proposition 215, much less understand what it took to get here. Most recreational users have no business smoking or consuming MJ. Some want to show their friends how cool it is to go in come out scoring. Some are so intelligent to bring an underage friend to wait in the car. RECREATIONAL USERS are the problem unless they are properly educated before they receive education the hard way by local law enforcement. With so many dispensaries popping up all over with all this heated debate, one might think that they would be on their P’s & Q’s. I have been to dispensaries all over California. I have found that some dispensaries are obviously breaking laws and or treating patients with the shittiest attitudes over the amount of a patient donation. Some of them seem like the local gangs are running them. Really, the purpose of dispensaries is to provide SAFE access to our medication. Dispensaries should not be located in areas known for gang violence at all. They should not be located in dangerous parts of our cities. Safe access means: Going to a dispensary that is in a safe neighborhood were you could walk at night. Some dispensaries were clueless when asked if they will join the rallies last week. Just like those hideous neon lights that are killing us, so is the ease of obtaining a recommendation. The guideline to recommendations should have more requirements, with the more terminally ill being exempt. Maybe even raise the age limit to 30. The City Attorney and the District Attorney wants to shut us down. They have raised a big stink. They see Recreational users, Co-ops, dispensaries, and Dr. recommendations as illegal. Illegal? I could have sworn that I helped vote for Prop. 215. The point I am making is WE must fight within ourselves before we can fight them (City Attorney & District Attorney). It is our duty as patients to save our right to medicate. If we see someone putting this law at risk, it should be our responsibility to do something about it. This goes for all of us. Weigh in on your thoughts.
RADDATATPAT

[ScrewyLewy]

I really don't know what to say. Yours is a very familiar voice. I blame the State for not getting with the program and working way to slow with MMJ advocates. Now it has exploded in our faces. The city not providing guide lines has led to the poop we are in now with a pot shop every other block in real bad areas. Problem is we all know what would be the ideal way like the DA and City attorney pretend they support. It is just impossible to change the way it is to how it should be without all of us getting hurt in the mess. Only thing is it ain't boring...

[greensleeves]

P, why do they need 4 or 5 dudes waiting in the car or hovering around?

[ScrewyLewy]

Originally Posted by greensleeves

P, why do they need 4 or 5 dudes waiting in the car or hovering around?

Isn't LEO paid to in force loitering laws? There are signs posted at liquor stores. Not MMJ's fault.

[raddatatpat]

Some of these youngsters want to show their coolness or just show off. Sometimes these guys will use a patient friend to purchase/donate.

[raddatatpat]

Some of these youngsters want to show their coolness or just show off. Sometimes these guys will use a patient friend to purchase/donate.

[Eden Therapy]

Originally Posted by ScrewyLewy

Isn't LEO paid to in force loitering laws? There are signs posted at liquor stores. Not MMJ's fault.

we have posted signs and lot security to enforce them; including no loitering, reselling or medicating......our neighbors looooooove us!

[toutvabien]

Originally Posted by raddatatpat

I have been diabetic for 13 years. Sometimes, it is an uphill battle with producing insulin and keeping sugar levels in check. The pain comes with the battle of your limbs. Often times just walking to the restroom is unbearable. Every day heavy meds gave nausea and headaches although not frequent as they use to be. I am a patient with a recommendation. My problem is recreational users. My problem is the dispensaries operating dirty. My problem is the ease to obtaining a recommendation. My major problem is our City Attorney and the District Attorney. Recreational users represent a big part of Users of MJ. So were on earth were you people during the rally? I see this group as our strength rather than a weakness. With so many of them ranging in the age of 18-26 none of these people were not even old enough to vote for Proposition 215, much less understand what it took to get here. Most recreational users have no business smoking or consuming MJ. Some want to show their friends how cool it is to go in come out scoring. Some are so intelligent to bring an underage friend to wait in the car. RECREATIONAL USERS are the problem unless they are properly educated before they receive education the hard way by local law enforcement. With so many dispensaries popping up all over with all this heated debate, one might think that they would be on their P’s & Q’s. I have been to dispensaries all over California. I have found that some dispensaries are obviously breaking laws and or treating patients with the shittiest attitudes over the amount of a patient donation. Some of them seem like the local gangs are running them. Really, the purpose of dispensaries is to provide SAFE access to our medication. Dispensaries should not be located in areas known for gang violence at all. They should not be located in dangerous parts of our cities. Safe access means: Going to a dispensary that is in a safe neighborhood were you could walk at night. Some dispensaries were clueless when asked if they will join the rallies last week. Just like those hideous neon lights that are killing us, so is the ease of obtaining a recommendation. The guideline to recommendations should have more requirements, with the more terminally ill being exempt. Maybe even raise the age limit to 30. The City Attorney and the District Attorney wants to shut us down. They have raised a big stink. They see Recreational users, Co-ops, dispensaries, and Dr. recommendations as illegal. Illegal? I could have sworn that I helped vote for Prop. 215. The point I am making is WE must fight within ourselves before we can fight them (City Attorney & District Attorney). It is our duty as patients to save our right to medicate. If we see someone putting this law at risk, it should be our responsibility to do something about it. This goes for all of us. Weigh in on your thoughts.
RADDATATPAT

I agree, but let's take it one step further and limit access to only those that are terminally ill (which would also eliminate the murky gray area regarding patient qualifications as far as ailments are concerned). I'm certain that would not only take care of the young punks, but the old stoners as well.

[VooDoo Chile]

Originally Posted by toutvabien

I agree, but let's take it one step further and limit access to only those that are terminally ill (which would also eliminate the murky gray area regarding patient qualifications as far as ailments are concerned). I'm certain that would not only take care of the young punks, but the old stoners as well.

Wow. So people with chronic conditions and nonterminal cancer patients, HIV patients, etc. should be denied access to medicine that improves their quality of life?

Good thing the laws are working against you. WTF.

[toutvabien]

Originally Posted by VooDoo Chile

Wow. So people with chronic conditions and nonterminal cancer patients, HIV patients, etc. should be denied access to medicine that improves their quality of life?

Good thing the laws are working against you. WTF.

Whoosh.

[Eden Therapy]

Originally Posted by toutvabien

Whoosh.

there are collectives for terminally ill only with closed memberships, especially up north............that doesn't stop the other collectives from serving patients like me, who is gratefully not terminal, but definately sick.....and i'll get high regardless.....prohibtion won't stop me; it didn't before....but it will increase crime

[toutvabien]

I wasn't being serious, merely extending the original poster's parameters on who "deserves" to use MMJ and who does not (anyone under 30 years of age for instance).