[Greenbud]

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Not sure what is worst, the Minn. Sup. Crt. ruling this way based on the idiot narc's opinion, or the opinion of the idiot narc that users are known to keep bong water to drink or inject. The court bought it hook line and sinker.

Here's article in case link fails:

MINNEAPOLIS — Bong water can count as a controlled substance, the Minnesota Supreme Court ruled Thursday in a decision that raises the threat of longer sentences for drug smokers who fail to dump the water out of their pipes.

In a 4-3 decision Thursday, the state's highest court said a person can be prosecuted for a first-degree drug crime for 25 grams or more of bong water that tests positive for a controlled substance.

The decision, which reverses two lower court rulings, came in the case of Sara Peck. Items seized during a search of her Rice County home in 2007 included a glass bong — a type of water pipe often used to smoke drugs — that contained 37 grams — about 2 1/2 tablespoons — of a liquid that tested positive for the presence of methamphetamine.

The Supreme Court said that unambiguously counts as a drug "mixture" under the wording of state law and sent the case back to Rice County District Court for further proceedings. The decision, authored by Justice G. Barry Anderson, noted that the liquid wasn't plain clear water, but had a pink color and fruity odor, and that a narcotics officer had testified that drug users sometimes keep bong water to drink or inject later.

The statute defines a drug "mixture" as "a preparation, compound, mixture, or substance containing a controlled substance, regardless of purity." When the language of a statute is unambiguous, the high court said, precedents prohibit courts from disregarding the letter of the law under the pretext of pursuing the letter of the law.

In a sharply worded dissent, Justice Paul Anderson said the majority's decision "does not make sense, and borders on the absurd." He said it isn't consistent with what the Legislature intended when it wrote the state's drug laws. And he blasted Rice County authorities for charging Peck with such a serious crime.

If bong water is considered a drug mixture, and it weighs enough to raise the crime to a first-degree drug offense, the presumed sentence for a first-time offender is seven years and two months in prison, and a felony drug offense goes on his or her record, Paul Anderson wrote.

But if the bong water is treated as part of the drug paraphernalia, as the lower courts held, he wrote, the same defendant would face no more than a $300 fine and the petty misdemeanor conviction would not go on his or her record.

Justices Alan Page and Helen Meyer joined in Paul Anderson's dissent.

Attorney Bradford Delapena, who represents Peck, said he had not yet had a chance to discuss the ruling with her, but he said the dissent correctly pointed out the problems the ruling raises.

"They're treating Ms. Peck, who had two tablespoons of bong water, as if she were a major drug wholesaler," he said.

Delapena said Peck's case now goes back to the trial court, where he said prosecutors could use the ruling to try to extract a guilty plea to a more serious offense with a stiffer sentence than a $300 fine on a petty misdemeanor. He laughed at the suggestion that it means dope smokers should empty their bongs promptly.

"I wouldn't presume to draw that lesson," he said. "I would just stick with the legal lessons."

Come to think of it, makes sense I found it on Farce News Network, but to be fair to them, it's all over the web and on the AP wire so everyone picked it up.

Folks, however distant this incident may seem, unless you eat Lutefisk, these events in MN bear a direct relationship to us in CA.

That is, everyone is watching what we're doing in LA and CA. I think everyone will follow some of our better examples and in a sense are waiting for CA to bring some common sense to all this reefer madness.

Fruity Odor? I want to fart in that judge's face.

Best,

GB

[DankJews]

LOL That's Funny As Shit! What Is Wrong With These Peeps? Haha, THC Isn't Even Near Water Soluble, All They Are Prosecuting Is People With Nasty Water In Their Pieces!?!?!? Is This Constitutional? Step It Up Minnesota.

.:Stay Medicated:.

[cephas]

Damn.....I could be injecting my bong water?

...been wasting it all these years.....

Thankfully the Justice system hasn't let me down, and informed me of this terrible waste.

...I knew a guy who saved his bong water, first dude I ever smoked with. He would save it in his fridge. When he smoked with a "newbie" he would wait till they were really medicated, then he would pull out a cold glass of bong water and tell the "newbie"..... "Hey man, drink this down and it will really put ya over the top!" Then he would hand the person the glass, for them to take a drink........

....He was evil though....but I do agree that what he did to me should be considered a crime.....that ish tasted terrible...made me puke....

[katzore]

It's so funny about this stupid idea that the water actually filters the THC. All the water does is lower the temperature of the smoke. WE know this, but the majority doesn't. They think you can get high off it... The color change is only due to the ash snapping through. The only way to get high off that, is if you snap like 15 bowls but not completely burning the buds..then you boil it with milk and MAYBE that will. very gross.

[QPHYSICS8]

So who arrests the wineries for storing wine to age in their oak barrels? // the situation... Water aged, grapes aged, and then ?

[ShiningSkull]

From Morpheus....

"3. No waterpipes – While water or ice can reduce throat irritation from smoking, it also removes more THC and other cannabinoids than it reduces the amount of tar. In fact, water-filled bongs are actually less efficient than joints in delivering THC. So, unless throat irritation is a big concern for you, forget ice or water in your bong, though ice is better than water..."


http://www.weedtracker.com/forums/co...one-33510.html

[cal.valley]

wow, people need to find other things to do with their time. Maybe worry about meth heads instead!!!!!

[otisblue]

Note to Court: "It's waste-water stupid!".

[BrattonBasher]

I thought it was only a crime to SPILL bong water!

[ScrewyLewy]

Reading this may cause someone to loose their lunch. O it's nasty.

[Smilodon]

This is essentially why I left Minnesota 25 years ago. Anyone who would eat Ludefisk would probably drink bong water.

[babykush]

Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

I thought it was only a crime to SPILL bong water!

I thought So 2

[Geist]

I thought was going to be a link to the onion...

[toutvabien]

Originally Posted by Geist

I thought was going to be a link to the onion...

Hahaha, indeed.

[tikitorch]

Originally Posted by Geist

I thought was going to be a link to the onion...

No kidding. Truth is sometimes stranger-or in this case, stupider- than fiction.

[the1scar]

In a 4-3 decision Thursday, the state's highest court said a person can be prosecuted for a first-degree drug crime for 25 grams or more of bong water that tests positive for a controlled substance.

The bong water tested positive for meth, so if my bong water only tests positive for marijuana I'm still not okay in MN. The rest of the article is BS about how the officer found it or that people drink and inject it like heroin.

[MCMUFFIN08]

well I've tried this b4 and it works wonders guys, since I started smokin I came with the idea of injecting this smelly disgusting fluids into my body. I bet a retarded cop tried this, just like the one that tried brownies with weed he confiscated. The good thing is if law enforcement does show up all u have to do is spill the water Well if 25 grams is illegal it's easy just fill up 24 grams and remember people to get the full effect of the medicine we must drink our depository water from our bong yup. What a load of crock.

[chrondon1989]

wow thats gona change everything, can smoke and drink ur drug of choice now. groooooosssssssss!

[xanadeau]

stay the fuck out of Minnesota

[maryjayne kush]

I flush my bong water down the toilet or in the garbage disposal followed by a lemon. Bong water is not a controlled substance it is stinky trash. Who would drink bong water? Keep your bong clean.

[adyingbreed]

Originally Posted by maryjayne kush

I flush my bong water down the toilet or in the garbage disposal followed by a lemon. Bong water is not a controlled substance it is stinky trash. Who would drink bong water? Keep your bong clean.

Its wworse than stinky trash, I plain just wash my hands of it

[katzore]

Originally Posted by ShiningSkull

From Morpheus....

"3. No waterpipes – While water or ice can reduce throat irritation from smoking, it also removes more THC and other cannabinoids than it reduces the amount of tar. In fact, water-filled bongs are actually less efficient than joints in delivering THC. So, unless throat irritation is a big concern for you, forget ice or water in your bong, though ice is better than water..."


http://www.weedtracker.com/forums/co...one-33510.html

And what evidence supports this idea? The same contradicting evidence that THC is NOT water soluble.?

[Geist]

Originally Posted by ShiningSkull

From Morpheus....

"3. No waterpipes – While water or ice can reduce throat irritation from smoking, it also removes more THC and other cannabinoids than it reduces the amount of tar. In fact, water-filled bongs are actually less efficient than joints in delivering THC. So, unless throat irritation is a big concern for you, forget ice or water in your bong, though ice is better than water..."


http://www.weedtracker.com/forums/co...one-33510.html

I've only read a few pages of the link, but there's a lot of interesting and informative information in that thread.
I'm going to have to read a lot of past posts from morpheus...I have so much to learn. Thank you for posting
the link Shining Skull.

[fish2find]

May be left field, but ...

I understand to think that most bong users would not drink the water for a high, but the tweakers Ive known over the years. Um ... Im thinking there are tweakers that would indeed drink "tweak water" for the high.

Just playing the devils advocate, I think the courts are screwed to make such a stretch. But in response to folks that think a tweaker would not drink the water ...

[Pico+Barrington Collective]

Newest sign for anyone in that office....