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TrackerBot · 09-24-2009, 11:30 AM

Over the last few weeks, I’ve had several opportunities to attend Q & A sessions with the Obama administration’s drug czar, Gil Kerlikowske. Increasingly, the audiences are asking him about the cartels in Mexico.A typical question goes something like this: “Wouldn’t ending marijuana prohibition in the U.S. wipe out the drug cartels like the 21st [...]

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DirtySlurpee · 09-24-2009, 11:58 AM

I dont think it would affect the cartels one bit. They seem to think that thats all they are importing...we have to remember they still have Meth, Coke, and Heroin coming in. It'll put a little dent in there income but thats not they're only source. Does anyone even buy any mexican weed anymore?

BrattonBasher · 09-24-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtySlurpee

I dont think it would affect the cartels one bit. They seem to think that thats all they are importing...we have to remember they still have Meth, Coke, and Heroin coming in. It'll put a little dent in there income but thats not they're only source. Does anyone even buy any mexican weed anymore?

I agree!

coldfire23mj · 09-24-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtySlurpee

I dont think it would affect the cartels one bit. They seem to think that thats all they are importing...we have to remember they still have Meth, Coke, and Heroin coming in. It'll put a little dent in there income but thats not they're only source. Does anyone even buy any mexican weed anymore?

um...you would be surprised. I've heard around over 60% of their profits are from marijuana sales.

IMO it would affect the drug cartels. They are in arizona making most of their profits and they are probably driving right threw cali and our medical marijuana. knowing what they got cant compete with our high grade medicine.

BrattonBasher · 09-24-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by coldfire23mj

um...you would be surprised. I've heard around over 60% of their profits are from marijuana sales.

IMO it would affect the drug cartels. They are in arizona making most of their profits and they are probably driving right threw cali and our medical marijuana. knowing what they got cant compete with our high grade medicine.

You are referring to an organized group of heartless mass murderers. They are not going to just throw their hands in the air and say " I guess I gotta get a job at a gas station". To many in the legalization crowd dream that we can just sign legalization papers and poof, the criminals disappear. Not gonna happen. They will find a way. I am not against legalization, I am for it, but I am realistic about what it will accomplish.

MiddleOfNowhere · 09-24-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

To many in the legalization crowd dream that we can just sign legalization papers and poof, the criminals disappear. Not gonna happen. They will find a way.

Do you still see the mafia selling bootleg liquor?

BrattonBasher · 09-24-2009, 02:15 PM

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Do you still see the mafia selling bootleg liquor?

Do you envision MJ will be handled like booze? Did the repeal of prohibition destroy the mafia?

kennabis · 09-24-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MiddleOfNowhere

Do you still see the mafia selling bootleg liquor?

winner! great observation.

free cannabis!

***Pico+Barrington Collective*** · 09-24-2009, 02:20 PM

if we legalize marijuana it would hit their pockets; Perhaps, it could be the start of chipping away at their cartel.

kennabis · 09-24-2009, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

Do you envision MJ will be handled like booze? Did the repeal of prohibition destroy the mafia?

crooks will always find a crooked way too get by, that is the balance of nature, and our experience here on planet earth. they just don't need to do it with "cannabis" any more. there are many other rocks they can uncover for their wicked ways....

best wishes basher boy!

BrattonBasher · 09-24-2009, 02:26 PM

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winner! great observation.

free cannabis!

This guy wins? LOL He made a weak analogy. People don't brew booze themselves, and it's doubtfull MJ will be marketed and handled like alcohol. I'm a realist who sees criminals, and a Darwinist. The cartels will evolve...

silvercloud · 09-24-2009, 02:59 PM

Cartel land will eventually disappear thru the relentless perserverance of IRS ,as soon as US annexes Mexico ,just like Capone fell in the 30's ~ only the IRS will 'spend a $$$thousand$$$' to 'chase a $hundred$' ~ besides controlling cartels ,Mexico's vast resources will help build strategic reserves ,along w/Canada to form the new NA

Alliance ~ that is all

BrattonBasher · 09-24-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kennabis

crooks will always find a crooked way too get by, that is the balance of nature, and our experience here on planet earth. they just don't need to do it with "cannabis" any more. there are many other rocks they can uncover for their wicked ways....

best wishes basher boy!

I agree! I just want to be the winner sometimes... Best to you my gloved friend!

MiddleOfNowhere · 09-24-2009, 03:54 PM

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This guy wins?

Heh, I never win anything.

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Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

LOL He made a weak analogy. People don't brew booze themselves

The hell they don't. You'll find a home brewing shop in most malls these days, it's not even uncommon. Distilling higher proof liquor is uncommon, but people certainly do it.

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and it's doubtfull MJ will be marketed and handled like alcohol.

Why on earth not? Alcohol was once just as illegal as MJ is now, now you have lots of major companies marketing it and making lots of money.

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I'm a realist who sees criminals, and a Darwinist. The cartels will evolve...

Sure, but if you take away a major source of funding, that makes a big dent. Consider again my mafia analogy. Sure, they aren't dead, but do you think they have anywhere near the power and influence they had during the prohibition era?

kennabis · 09-24-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

This guy wins? LOL He made a weak analogy. People don't brew booze themselves, and it's doubtfull MJ will be marketed and handled like alcohol. I'm a realist who sees criminals, and a Darwinist. The cartels will evolve...

you're skirting what i believe he meant, that once you remove the prohibition, the gangsters would fall away from "cannabis"

gansters aren't makin booze, is what i believe he meant!

time will tell dear basher, whether or not mmj will be treated like alcohol. many regular folk treat it like alcohol everyday, they call it "weed" or just plain ole "marijuana", where over here, we call it medicine...

and, the cartels are just an "illusion", just like what we are experiencing this very moment, an illusion....

peace buddy

coldfire23mj · 09-24-2009, 05:51 PM

gangmembers and the drug cartels and dispensary owners all recognize the demand for marijuana. if it ever becomes legalized itll need to be considerably cheaper as to move the gangmembers and drug cartels onto a different drug and away from the profitless market of marijuana.

X Runner · 09-24-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by coldfire23mj

gangmembers and the drug cartels and dispensary owners all recognize the demand for marijuana. if it ever becomes legalized itll need to be considerably cheaper as to move the gangmembers and drug cartels onto a different drug and away from the profitless market of marijuana.

Legalized marijuana will also be highly taxed marijuana. Just like cigarettes, semtruck loads will be smuggled across state lines to beat these taxes. However, I like this scenario better than cartels making big dough off of semi-bunk marijuana.

coldfire23mj · 09-24-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by X Runner

Legalized marijuana will also be highly taxed marijuana. Just like cigarettes, semtruck loads will be smuggled across state lines to beat these taxes. However, I like this scenario better than cartels making big dough off of semi-bunk marijuana.

if its highly taxed, that wont discourage the marijuana black market.. people will still buy from the street. which is why I think the government would be wise to tax it, just not heavily. maybe charge 30-35 bucks an 1/8th total, 200 for an oz of medicine. if it does get legalized, id expect nothing less or forget it. ill grow my own. just my 2 cents. :)

bushka · 09-24-2009, 08:01 PM

They'll just thieve & sell the goods still make a profit somehow :)

ScrewyLewy · 09-25-2009, 03:10 AM

OK Picture this. A man walks into a stop~n~go and says gimmie a pack a GDP 100's and oh yea a pack of Virgina Slims Menthol Indica's. What year is it? I wish soon!

***weedtracker*** · 09-25-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BrattonBasher

People don't brew booze themselves..

people brew their own beer and wine everyday and there are still moonshiners in the backwoods of georgia and kentucky.

tanja · 09-25-2009, 11:45 AM

I brew beer for my hubby AND buy mex. pot( we call it stress' cause thats about all you get lol) the market for a whole new product has been opened almost legally, whtas to come of that? It wont go away that I can say for sure.
one love T

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TrackerBot Automatic Posting robot Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,880 Rep Power: 47841	Mexican Cartels Continue To Illustrate Our Point Over the last few weeks, I’ve had several opportunities to attend Q & A sessions with the Obama administration’s drug czar, Gil Kerlikowske. Increasingly, the audiences are asking him about the cartels in Mexico.A typical question goes something like this: “Wouldn’t ending marijuana prohibition in the U.S. wipe out the drug cartels like the 21st [...] To read more, visit the MPP Website by clicking here..

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DirtySlurpee Hi, Im New! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coachella Valley Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 49 Rep Power: 1181	Re: Mexican Cartels Continue To Illustrate Our Point I dont think it would affect the cartels one bit. They seem to think that thats all they are importing...we have to remember they still have Meth, Coke, and Heroin coming in. It'll put a little dent in there income but thats not they're only source. Does anyone even buy any mexican weed anymore?

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*Pico+Barrington Collective* WT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Co-Op: Yes Vendor: No Patient: Yes Posts: 1,660 Rep Power: 40635	Re: Mexican Cartels Continue To Illustrate Our Point if we legalize marijuana it would hit their pockets; Perhaps, it could be the start of chipping away at their cartel. Pico+Barrington Collective says..I volunteer for Pico+Barrington Collective with pleasure ;)

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silvercloud WT Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: venice beach Co-Op: non Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 2,103 Rep Power: 36071	Re: Mexican Cartels Continue To Illustrate Our Point Cartel land will eventually disappear thru the relentless perserverance of IRS ,as soon as US annexes Mexico ,just like Capone fell in the 30's ~ only the IRS will 'spend a $$$thousand$$$' to 'chase a $hundred$' ~ besides controlling cartels ,Mexico's vast resources will help build strategic reserves ,along w/Canada to form the new NA Alliance ~ that is all silvercloud says..Try to keep an open To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "3rdEye" wherever ,whenever ..... "If life doesn't wait ,why wait on life" ... ?/? .....

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coldfire23mj A somewhat experienced user Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oceanside/San Jose Co-Op: No Vendor: No Patient: Yes Posts: 551 Rep Power: 4914	Re: Mexican Cartels Continue To Illustrate Our Point gangmembers and the drug cartels and dispensary owners all recognize the demand for marijuana. if it ever becomes legalized itll need to be considerably cheaper as to move the gangmembers and drug cartels onto a different drug and away from the profitless market of marijuana.

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ScrewyLewy I'm Tired! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 3rd rock from the sun Co-Op: NO Vendor: NO Patient: YES Posts: 669 Rep Power: 54391	Re: Mexican Cartels Continue To Illustrate Our Point OK Picture this. A man walks into a stop~n~go and says gimmie a pack a GDP 100's and oh yea a pack of Virgina Slims Menthol Indica's. What year is it? I wish soon! ScrewyLewy says.."Happy Smoke for Happy People" "Let's get small" Please adopt a new friend To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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tanja WT Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: baking hot BFE Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: yes Posts: 336 Rep Power: 23148	Re: Mexican Cartels Continue To Illustrate Our Point I brew beer for my hubby AND buy mex. pot( we call it stress' cause thats about all you get lol) the market for a whole new product has been opened almost legally, whtas to come of that? It wont go away that I can say for sure. one love T tanja says..you may see me tonite , with that illegal smile, it dont cost very much , but it lasts me awhile. Please tell the man I didnt kill any one . Im just trying to have me some fun. J. P. circia 2007 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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