[SuhTeeVah]

Prior to my habitual use of medical marijuana, I was notorious amongst my friends for having the most far-out, detailed and trippy dreams that anyone could ever have...it was a highlight of all wake and bake road trips to school...I'd get in the car, take a rip, and begin with, "Dude, last night,............" and proceed to tell a 10 minute long story about what I had dreamt the night before. It was so much fun, I'd have them laughing their asses off, or totally shocked, or whatever have you, in addition to sparking up their memories of their own dreams, all in all great conversation and introspection amongst friends.

However, after about 4 years of continuous use, I gradually began to remember less and less of my night adventures, until finally, they became nonexistent. I had been smoking pot for so long, and the dream loss had happened so gradually, that I never correlated the two. Pot smoking, to me, had always had nothing but postive affects on my psyche, and thus, my lack of dreaming simply could not have had anything to do with my lack of REM...or so I though.

It wasn't until I took a much needed break from the herb (I had a bad case of black lung and was coughing up a whole lotta you know what) that I began to start recalling my dreams again. After my cough and throat began to patch up, I started smoking again, habitually....and once again, my dreams became nonexistent...it was then that I realized that smoking pot was keeping me from dreaming!

I've mentioned this to several of my friends who smoke every day, and a lot of them were totally shocked when they recalled their history and found that they too had not been dreaming since their habit formed.

Now, I know for a fact that the REM phase is supposed to be the point in the sleep cycle where you are in your deepest state of sleep, and thus the most reparative. So, is this to say that pot smoking keeps one from reaching that deep slumber?..or that it just represses one's ability to recall?

Let me know what you think.

[Medpatient]

yea I find that I dont have a problem dreaming, never really had vivid dreams but for a couple but I still find I dream all the time.

There is a study and its a fact that if you medicate before bedtime , you are prone to dream far less . Myself I found I do not dream hardly ever , compared to before I started to smoke marijuana . You sleep more sound and deep on mj .

[SuhTeeVah]

Originally Posted by xsk8rdoodx

Hmmm...I notice somtimes I will wake up exhausted after smoking too much the night before...but I still have some of the most fucked up dreams you could possibly imagine...lots of bad dreams actually....

I've noticed this too...especially after smoking a really heavy indica, or a hash...I'll wake up and feel like the whole night's rest was pointless, because I feel exhausted and kinda achey all day.
I also forgot to mention in the original thread that smoking sativas seems to keep dreams going...it is mainly on an indica streak that I get that super heavy sleep without dreams.
That being said, indicas really aren't my thing anymore...
Hence my name, SuhTeeVah

[Donkey Slut]

I dont sleep well to begin with but when i do i have bad ass dreams very vivid. I medicate allways before bedtime or i will wake up constantly though out the night. I never have had a problem with MMJ taking my dreams away.

[SuhTeeVah]

Originally Posted by Donkey Slut

I dont sleep well to begin with but when i do i have bad ass dreams very vivid. I medicate allways before bedtime or i will wake up constantly though out the night. I never have had a problem with MMJ taking my dreams away.

Interesting...I guess it is safe to say that, as with most every medication available, everything is a personal matter, as people have different chemistries, compostitions and reactions to things. I think that among the many research topics that are going on in the name of medical marijuana, that usage correlated to sleep patterns would be a very worthwhile study.

[Medpatient]

Originally Posted by SuhTeeVah

I've noticed this too...especially after smoking a really heavy indica, or a hash...I'll wake up and feel like the whole night's rest was pointless, because I feel exhausted and kinda achey all day.
I also forgot to mention in the original thread that smoking sativas seems to keep dreams going...it is mainly on an indica streak that I get that super heavy sleep without dreams.
That being said, indicas really aren't my thing anymore...
Hence my name, SuhTeeVah

I think you have stumbled onto something here. It is just the same as being awake I think. Smoking a heavy indica during the day makes you groggy and not wanting to do anything especially think, so it relaxes everything including your mind where as with sativa's it is more cerebral so you mind is still working and going.

Think there may very well be a connection there.

[Big K R]

Wow thats something I didn't think about, mmj right before bed= less dreams. Looking back that has been my case. Thank you, KR

[SuhTeeVah]

For sure KR!
Like I said though, everything is a personal matter, so this should get a lot more interesting an inclusive once more people have replied to the post...I can't wait to see where this goes!

Peace.

smoking reduces my dreaming also,but if eat a good strong edible I have vivid clear dreams all night, and sleep great, I tested this more than twice

[STEVE-O]

Wow !! So Im Not " The Lone Ranger "

This Has Mos Def Always Been The Case With Me. I Am Unfortunately
Prone To Very Bad Dreams. A Sad Byproduct Of An Abusive Childhood. I Hate My Dreams.

Anyway, As A Long Time Mmj User ( Approaching 30 Yrs.) I Rarely Dream ( Thank God ). I Have However Found, That When I Went Thru Rehab For Meth, 3 Times At The V.a. Hospital. Each And Every Time I Was Sober From Mmj, I Had Awful Dreams & Slept Like Shit.
( Of Course The V.a. Was More Than Happy To Prescribe A Half Dozen Pills I Could Take For The Sleep / Anxiety ) No Thanx !!!!

I Am Of Course Sober From Meth Now, August Is 3 Years, And I Feel Great. I Dont Dream Much At All, And I For One, Dont Miss Them-

Great Thread, Very Bold & Thought Provoking, Kudos-

Steve-o

[Medpatient]

Originally Posted by STEVE-O

Wow !! So Im Not " The Lone Ranger "

This Has Mos Def Always Been The Case With Me. I Am Unfortunately
Prone To Very Bad Dreams. A Sad Byproduct Of An Abusive Childhood. I Hate My Dreams.

Anyway, As A Long Time Mmj User ( Approaching 30 Yrs.) I Rarely Dream ( Thank God ). I Have However Found, That When I Went Thru Rehab For Meth, 3 Times At The V.a. Hospital. Each And Every Time I Was Sober From Mmj, I Had Awful Dreams & Slept Like Shit.
( Of Course The V.a. Was More Than Happy To Prescribe A Half Dozen Pills I Could Take For The Sleep / Anxiety ) No Thanx !!!!

I Am Of Course Sober From Meth Now, August Is 3 Years, And I Feel Great. I Dont Dream Much At All, And I For One, Dont Miss Them-

Great Thread, Very Bold & Thought Provoking, Kudos-

Steve-o

Congratulations on kicking the habit. From one ex meth user to another. That was the best thing you could ever do for yourself.

[949Kush]

Originally Posted by SuhTeeVah

Prior to my habitual use of medical marijuana, I was notorious amongst my friends for having the most far-out, detailed and trippy dreams that anyone could ever have...it was a highlight of all wake and bake road trips to school...I'd get in the car, take a rip, and begin with, "Dude, last night,............" and proceed to tell a 10 minute long story about what I had dreamt the night before. It was so much fun, I'd have them laughing their asses off, or totally shocked, or whatever have you, in addition to sparking up their memories of their own dreams, all in all great conversation and introspection amongst friends.

However, after about 4 years of continuous use, I gradually began to remember less and less of my night adventures, until finally, they became nonexistent. I had been smoking pot for so long, and the dream loss had happened so gradually, that I never correlated the two. Pot smoking, to me, had always had nothing but postive affects on my psyche, and thus, my lack of dreaming simply could not have had anything to do with my lack of REM...or so I though.

It wasn't until I took a much needed break from the herb (I had a bad case of black lung and was coughing up a whole lotta you know what) that I began to start recalling my dreams again. After my cough and throat began to patch up, I started smoking again, habitually....and once again, my dreams became nonexistent...it was then that I realized that smoking pot was keeping me from dreaming!

I've mentioned this to several of my friends who smoke every day, and a lot of them were totally shocked when they recalled their history and found that they too had not been dreaming since their habit formed.

Now, I know for a fact that the REM phase is supposed to be the point in the sleep cycle where you are in your deepest state of sleep, and thus the most reparative. So, is this to say that pot smoking keeps one from reaching that deep slumber?..or that it just represses one's ability to recall?

Let me know what you think.

I have the same thing happens to me.. Only for me it is a good thing. I always have super violent nightmares.

[STEVE-O]

Originally Posted by Medpatient

Congratulations on kicking the habit. From one ex meth user to another. That was the best thing you could ever do for yourself.

THANX A MILLION BRUDDAH !! I THANK GOD I WISED UP B4 TOO LATE.

SEEMS AS THOUGH MMJ WORKS QUITE EFFECTIVELY AS A DREAM SUPPRESSANT, FOR THOSE OF US THAT DESIRE THAT. NEVER GAVE IT ALOT OF THOUGHT BEFORE, BUT I GUESS IT'S JUST ONE MORE WAY THAT MMJ HAS IMPROVED MY QUALITY OF LIFE !! GOD BLESS MOTHER NATURE !!

STEVE-O

[Medpatient]

Originally Posted by STEVE-O

THANX A MILLION BRUDDAH !! I THANK GOD I WISED UP B4 TOO LATE.

SEEMS AS THOUGH MMJ WORKS QUITE EFFECTIVELY AS A DREAM SUPPRESSANT, FOR THOSE OF US THAT DESIRE THAT. NEVER GAVE IT ALOT OF THOUGHT BEFORE, BUT I GUESS IT'S JUST ONE MORE WAY THAT MMJ HAS IMPROVED MY QUALITY OF LIFE !! GOD BLESS MOTHER NATURE !!

STEVE-O

The healing power of the herb never ceases to amaze me.

On a side note now that I have given some good thought to it, I also find that I do not dream as much as I used too. I know they definately are not as vivid as I have had in the past.

[SuhTeeVah]

Originally Posted by STEVE-O

Wow !! So Im Not " The Lone Ranger "

This Has Mos Def Always Been The Case With Me. I Am Unfortunately
Prone To Very Bad Dreams. A Sad Byproduct Of An Abusive Childhood. I Hate My Dreams.

Anyway, As A Long Time Mmj User ( Approaching 30 Yrs.) I Rarely Dream ( Thank God ). I Have However Found, That When I Went Thru Rehab For Meth, 3 Times At The V.a. Hospital. Each And Every Time I Was Sober From Mmj, I Had Awful Dreams & Slept Like Shit.
( Of Course The V.a. Was More Than Happy To Prescribe A Half Dozen Pills I Could Take For The Sleep / Anxiety ) No Thanx !!!!

I Am Of Course Sober From Meth Now, August Is 3 Years, And I Feel Great. I Dont Dream Much At All, And I For One, Dont Miss Them-

Great Thread, Very Bold & Thought Provoking, Kudos-

Steve-o

Thanks Steve-O!
Congrats on kickin the monster to the curb, that takes willpower of the highest degree...

So at this point it is safe to say that we are at about a 50/50 rate of people who do and do not dream after smoking...what else is interesting is that within this 50/50 is another 50/50 of those who enjoy and don't enjoy the dreamless sleep...

[The Urban Spaceman]

Originally Posted by SuhTeeVah

For sure KR!
Like I said though, everything is a personal matter, so this should get a lot more interesting an inclusive once more people have replied to the post...I can't wait to see where this goes!

Peace.

i guess it really does depend on your personal makeup. If I smoke sativas ever 3-4 hours before bed, I can't sleep at all because my mind is just going too fast.
I smoke purps before bed and I dream all the time. regular dreams, vivid dreams, good and bad dreams. I don't always remember the details of my dreams but i do remember dreaming, cannabis has no effect on my dreaming at all. the only time i don't get into REM sleep is when i'm having one of those nights when i wake up every hour or i just can't fall asleep at all (no matter how much i smoke!)

much love
spacey

[STEVE-O]

Originally Posted by SuhTeeVah

Thanks Steve-O!
Congrats on kickin the monster to the curb, that takes willpower of the highest degree...

So at this point it is safe to say that we are at about a 50/50 rate of people who do and do not dream after smoking...what else is interesting is that within this 50/50 is another 50/50 of those who enjoy and don't enjoy the dreamless sleep...

EXCELLENT OBSERVATIONS !! KINDA SUPPORTS THE FACTS, THAT MMJ WORKS DIFFERENTLY ON DIFFERENT PEOPLE. HAS ALOT TO DO WITH PERSONAL BODY CHEMISTRY & MENTAL PSYCHE.

STEVE-O

[Crohnie]

If I don't have my MMJ I have bad nightmares and can't sleep. With MMJ, no dreams and sleep like a baby.

[trackstar]

Originally Posted by STEVE-O

Wow !! So Im Not " The Lone Ranger "

This Has Mos Def Always Been The Case With Me. I Am Unfortunately
Prone To Very Bad Dreams. A Sad Byproduct Of An Abusive Childhood. I Hate My Dreams.

Anyway, As A Long Time Mmj User ( Approaching 30 Yrs.) I Rarely Dream ( Thank God ). I Have However Found, That When I Went Thru Rehab For Meth, 3 Times At The V.a. Hospital. Each And Every Time I Was Sober From Mmj, I Had Awful Dreams & Slept Like Shit.
( Of Course The V.a. Was More Than Happy To Prescribe A Half Dozen Pills I Could Take For The Sleep / Anxiety ) No Thanx !!!!

I Am Of Course Sober From Meth Now, August Is 3 Years, And I Feel Great. I Dont Dream Much At All, And I For One, Dont Miss Them-

Great Thread, Very Bold & Thought Provoking, Kudos-

Steve-o

When I had to kick meth, the first few days were like hell. I would have some crazy bad dreams and a fever throughout the night. I'm glad that i kicked that shit outta my life a long time ago, and happy that my bros here kicked that shit too. As for dreaming, I believe i lost my dreams after the years of medicating, becuase i don't dream anymore. I've been thinking that its related to the meds also.

I forget the exact numbers but cannabis is suppose to raise your melatonin levels by like 400%, which I think is taken into account for the "burnout" some smokers get. I think it would also do a lot to your dreams. Personally I used/use cannabis to suppress my dreams when I have episodic nightmares caused from PTSD or general anxiety, stress, and my health habits not being up to par.

[steveadams203]

I notice when I smoke heavy and eat a meal, I normally have multiple dreams.

Also the dreams are always very heavy with and influencial. They say its not good to eat before you sleep. But its the only thing that will make me sleep, a big dinner and a couple BhO hits.. -steve

[silvercloud]

Since it's nearly impossible for this patient to dream while asleep ,can catch up w/ DayDream = bluedream/3rdeye ,lol ... that is all ..... :smile2:

[mrscucudookie]

I agree with a lot of you!!!! Very thought provoking thread!!!!

buuuuuuuuuutttt.... This sounds like a lot of "jibby-jab" nonsense!!!


I mean correct me if Im wrong PLEASE!!!! but everyone dreams!! its called REM sleep and it happens everynight reguardless of what you smoke... in fact, isnt it impossible to exist without REM sleep.>?


I've smoked everyday all the time for years!!!!! no problem in the dream department.. depending on what hour or particular cycle of sleep I've woke up during; usually effects my recollection of that dream....

sometimes I dont remember shit ...sometimes its very lucid

[happyjack]

Originally Posted by Donkey Slut

I dont sleep well to begin with but when i do i have bad ass dreams very vivid. I medicate allways before bedtime or i will wake up constantly though out the night. I never have had a problem with MMJ taking my dreams away.

^^^ Same here.

I've never been so lucky as to be able to escape dreams - they're like a shadow sewn onto my feet.
No matter what type of "medication" I try, they don't go away. I thought with MMJ names like Herojuana and Coma I'd have better luck, but nooooooo...

Dream journaling did make them go even more crazy vivid for a while tho - with more lucid dreams too - so I stopped doing that pretty quickly