[MadRiverTurtle]

Do you have one?

If so, what conditions do you listed?

If so, who is your Executor?

If not, why don't you have one?

[Eazy]

I don't have one because...I don't want to go there, yet. I've already told my family what to do with my stuff when I'm gone! They know how and where I want to be buried! ...I guess I'm trying to force the notion I won't die anytime soon and if I inadvertantly do...it really won't matter what happens to my stuff, it's just stuff and I'll be dead.

If I had a lot of stuff and it were complicated stuff, I'd get a will for sure to make life easy for my family in the event of an unexpected event.

Why?

[MadRiverTurtle]

Why? Why not?! :)

A friend recently designated me as her Executor. And I think it's a legitimate question and worthy of conversation. Technology in the medical field is moving fast, providing us more and more options with end of life care and extending life longer. I was also curious to see the answers as the majority of people here have serious illnesses and great concerns for their health care. I wanted to see if it was more prevalent for MMJ users (most recent stat I could find was 29% of Americans have them- Pew Research, 2006).

Plus, we all die. Might as well face the inevitable.

[spings]

I have one, its about 20 yrs old and needs to be updated, alot has changed in 2o years. Having seen 2 relatives die, one with a will and one with a trust, the trust is the way to go.

[shecky7]

I don't have one planning mine now, my decedent has terminal economic flu. How can someone get sick that's dead already?

Wait... I have a public trust.

That works also or should. should. should. should.

Anyway, We could also utilize a family trust. They can avoid probate courts I think. Probate courts are for wills of decedents who never made claim to the public administrated trust via the name. So probate has power of attorney over that. So they tax and levy, rape and pillage the decedent!

Family Trust can be used also but see how our name is already set up to this same function we just let the admins. claim us as guarantor when they are in fact. We are the grantor.Quite a good read this one. (points below) I am not advocating his service just the educational pointers on trusts. Which can be implied not express. Think about that. (takes bong hit deeeply):drool:

Definition of a Trust

In general, a "trust" is a legal entity that is able to own property and other assets. It is one of the oldest and best defined relationships known in the law. The Babylonians used trusts, and every society since then has used some sort of trust relationship. Essentially, it is established by a legal agreement defining how assets are going to be managed and distributed. Property can legally be transferred into the trust and have the trust own it. Different trusts have different types of classifications in the law and for tax purposes.

Roles in a Trust

One person (the "grantor") gives up property or "grants" property to another person (the "trustee"), who is "trusted" by the grantor. The trustee is trusted to take care of the property and use the property, not for himself, but for the "benefit" of a third person (the beneficiary). The terms "trustee" and "beneficiary" are standard in every trust. However, the term "grantor" is often times replaced by "settlor", "creator", or "trustor". Often times, one person takes on more than one role in the trust (and in a Revocable Living Trust, you will probably be the grantor, the trustee, and the beneficiary all at the same time).

The trust document tells the trustee what he or she is supposed to do with the property, and the trustee is bound by law to follow the exact instructions given by the trust. The trustee is bound by a "fiduciary duty" to handle the property exactly as the trust directs (sometimes the trustee is referred to as a "fiduciary".

The Revocable Living Trust (or Family Trust)

A Revocable Living Trust (also known as a Family Trust or Living Trust) is used primarily to avoid probate, reduce estate taxes, preserve your privacy, and manage your financial affairs.

A Revocable Living Trust is a trust established while you are living. It is revocable, so you are able to make changes whenever you want, as well as reclaim the property transferred into it. It describe how your property should be managed while you are alive, and how it should be distributed upon your death. It is often called a family trust.

Avoiding Probate and Protecting Privacy with a Trust

Normally, if a person without a trust dies, there must be a probate process to determine how to distribute all of the property held solely in the decedent's name. A Will can help the probate court to determine where the property should go, but does not avoid the probate process. In fact, one primary purpose of probate is to validate the "last will" if one exists. Probate is a public procedure and opens up an estate's distribution to the public eye.

When you have correctly set up and used a Revocable Living Trust, upon your death there will be no probate process. This is because the owner of the property (the Trust) did not die; just the person in the role of the grantor and trustee (you). The new successor trustee will be able to take over without the long probate process.

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Our legal name is (re)presenting us as men in the fiction world to administer the public trust. We never claim this and get keelhauled daily because we submit as trustees not the principle, which we of course are. They need a guarantor, and don't want to pay the bills.If we can honor this fact in law we can gain standing and have standing to access the public trust or estate which we have had all this time and never quite got the meaning of truly. We always believed the ad men and bankers selling 'dreams'. Isn't this reality enough? We have to walk around dreaming too? wake up men and women and claim your right as what you are. State is Estate. The United Estates, a corporation formed by Abraham Lincoln with all property held in abeyance in and for the people and the hundred year plus raping of us by the banksters is ongoing. Learn what is happening and be a part of history, or watch history be made.

[Eazy]

Originally Posted by MadRiverTurtle

Why? Why not?! :)

Plus, we all die. Might as well face the inevitable.

True. Good question!

[MadRiverTurtle]

I think I worded this a bit wrong. Living will is another word for advance health care directive. Such as, "If at any time I should have a terminal condition I direct that the application of life-sustaining procedures to my body be withheld or withdrawn and that I be permitted to die". In short, what you want to have happen when you're a vegetable and can't speak for yourself.

[shecky7]

Oh in that case, my bad- forget that last rant. he he you know I get typing and all.

[Bemysnugglemate]

Originally Posted by MadRiverTurtle

I think I worded this a bit wrong. Living will is another word for advance health care directive. Such as, "If at any time I should have a terminal condition I direct that the application of life-sustaining procedures to my body be withheld or withdrawn and that I be permitted to die". In short, what you want to have happen when you're a vegetable and can't speak for yourself.

Me I don't want to be hooked to a life device lying in a bed waiting for time to pass... Not the quality of life I am seeking. The Doctors and Hospitols have it on record as well as my parents.

There is also a book out there I read a long long time ago on how to go about assisting a person who only wants you to be there for them when they do it to them selves. I don't remember the name of the book but I had to read it at the time...

Huggies

[Eazy]

Originally Posted by MadRiverTurtle

I think I worded this a bit wrong. Living will is another word for advance health care directive. Such as, "If at any time I should have a terminal condition I direct that the application of life-sustaining procedures to my body be withheld or withdrawn and that I be permitted to die". In short, what you want to have happen when you're a vegetable and can't speak for yourself.

oh. A living will. Now that's a thought provoking question...I haven't thought about that too much. But, I will. My primary health ailment comes with a high incidence of injuries, stroke, and heart attacks so...my initial thought now that I'm thinking about it...this is something I should do. damn. Very, very good question!

I know for sure I'd want to be on life support in the event they figure out a way to save me. ...somebody will have to come read WeedTRACKER to me everyday to keep my spirits up. What else...an IV of THC in case I know what's going on but can't respond, at least I'll be medicated enough to tolerate that... hmmm...feed me hemp milk and hemp protein...wow. So much to prepare for. ...I want somebody to wheel me out for fireworks every 5th of July, love America and Independence day...my independence day is July 5th -- the day I got my rec, I'll settle for the 4th...what else...if you are gonna blow smoke up my nose, Bluedream, please. Keep me neat and tidy and clean and comfy. I want my DNA to be preserved so that I can be cloned when it is possible to do so. Every few days...put a guitar in my hands and make me play something...like a puppet. Last but not least...do people usually get erections in comas??? If so...ummm...who...will...guard Mr. Happy??? hmmm...time to find a wife.

THANKS! :001_wub:

Yes, I have an AHCD that is on file with my Doctor and the 2 hospitals I use.

I do have a card stating I do have a AHCD and who my appointed Exec. is.... the Ex wife. Why? Because she likes me (won't pull the plug 3 seconds after I'm unconscious) and she is the mother of my adult child.

Most people don't want to "tempt fate" (fear of death, 2nd tier 'security' - Maslow's hierarchy of needs) and never see the reason for having one.

My conditions don't matter but I will say that after the 12th time in a year that I was asked "Do you have an Advanced Directive?" and had to check a box and sign "no". I figured, I had better look into one.

I don't want my body used by stoners to smoke for THC when I'm gone. ;)

[superface13]

Originally Posted by Elroy Jetson

I don't want my body used by stoners to smoke for THC when I'm gone. ;)

:thumbup: I always figured my friends would smoke me when I'm gone.