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Old 04-15-2008, 06:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Vap Residue for Butter?

I have an ounce of vap leftovers, is there any use for it in cooking? Perhaps just to make butter, or? Any recipes out there? Keep it basic, I am a newbie here and a better cook than baker.
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Re: Vap Residue for Butter?

Yes absolutely you can make cannabutter out of the vapor poo (that's what I call it). Use the same method of making cannabutter that you would normally use and make it into cookies or some such.

It won't be as potent as an ounce of shake or leaf, but it will be useful. I tend to get a lot of body effects from volcannabutter. Oooh I coined a term.

Last time I made sugar cookies, and they turned out OK, again, very good body effect, though you did have to eat two or three of them to get any results. I might have used too much butter for the amount of poo that I had. Your mileage may vary.


Generally two sticks of butter per 1/2 oz of poo will make a decent cannabutter. More poo will make it even better.

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Re: Vap Residue for Butter?

Most def cook it up . It will not be that potent ,but it should do something . What temp did you vape these herbs ? (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies) with support from a grant from the MPP (Marijuana Policy Project).

The study, conducted by Chemic Labs in Canton, Mass., tested vapors from cannabis heated in an herbal vaporizer known as the Volcano® ( manufactured by Storz & Bickel GmbH&Co. KG, Tuttlingen, Germany www.storz-bickel.com) and compared them to smoke produced by combusted marijuana. The Volcano® is designed to heat material to temperatures of 130° to 230° C (266° to 446° F) where medically active vapors are produced, but below the threshold of combustion where smoke is formed.

The vapors from the Volcano® were found to consist overwhelmingly of THC, the major active component in marijuana, whereas the combusted smoke contained over 100 other chemicals, including several polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), carcinogenic toxins that are common in tobacco smoke. The respiratory hazards of marijuana and tobacco smoke are due to toxic byproducts of combustion, not the active ingredients in the plant, known as cannabinoids.

The study suggests that medical marijuana patients can avoid the respiratory hazards of smoking by using a vaporizer. In its 1999 report on medical marijuana, the Institute of Medicine recommended against long-term use of smoked marijuana because of the health risks of smoking. However, the IOM failed to take account of vaporizers.

Previous studies have found that vaporizers can reduce harmful toxins in cannabis smoke. However this is the first study to analyze the gas phase of the vapor for a wide range of toxins. A previous NORML/MAPS study conducted by Chemic Labs found that a vaporizer known as the M-1 Volatizer® (www.volatizer.com) completely eliminated three specific toxins (naphthalene, benzene and toluene) in. the solid phase of the vapor (D. Gieringer, "Cannabis Vaporization: A Promising Strategy for Smoke Harm Reduction," Journal of Cannabis Therapeutics Vol. 1#3-4: 153-70 (2001); http://www.canorml.org/healthfacts/v...erstudy1.html).

The new study used a gas chromatograph mass spectrometer (GCMS) to examine the gas components of the vapor. .The analysis showed that the Volcano® vapor was remarkably clean, consisting 95% of THC with traces of cannabinol (CBN), another cannabinoid. The remaining 5% consisted of small amounts of three other components: one suspected cannabinoid relative, one suspected PAH, and caryophyllene, a fragrant oil in cannabis and other plants. In contrast over 111 different components appeared in the gas of the combusted smoke, including a half dozen known PAHs. Non-cannabinoids accounted for as much as 88% of the total gas content of the smoke.

The study used standard NIDA cannabis with 4% THC content. A quantitative analysis found that the Volcano® delivered 46% of the THC into vapor following three 45-second exposures of the sample to the heat. This compares favorably with the typical efficiency of marijuana cigarettes as observed in other studies, which depending on conditions can fall below 25% due to loss of THC in sidestream smoke. An important feature of the Volcano® is that it uses a balloon to capture the vapor, thereby avoiding leakage to the air. It is possible that higher THC efficiencies could have been reached with the Volcano® by stirring the sample around and exposing it to more heat.

The combusted sample achieved a relatively high THC efficiency of 78% upon complete combustion. The high efficiency seems due to the fact that the sample was completely consumed by combustion, and that smoke leakage was effectively prevented by the laboratory setup. Similar conditions do not obtain under normal circumstances when a marijuana cigarette is smoked and much of the THC is lost to the air or left in the unburned "roach."

Two other cannabinoids , cannabidiol (CBD) and cannabinol (CBN), were detected in the NIDA cannabis in trace amounts of 0.1%. Both the Volcano® and combustion delivered an apparent increase in CBD and CBN, but the variance of the data was too high to reach statistically significant conclusions.

Sponsors believe that the study results lend support for wider use of vaporizers by medical marijuana patients and researchers. At present, the only FDA-approved method for administering marijuana to human research subjects is via smoking NIDA cigarettes. NORML and MAPS are supporting efforts to have vaporizers approved by the FDA. As a first step in this effort, Dr. Donald Abrams of the University of California, San Francisco, has submitted a grant proposal to the California Center for Medical Cannabis Research in San Diego to test the Volcano® in human subjects. If the protocol is funded and the Volcano® approved by the FDA for human research, it will be the first human study using a vaporizer. If the FDA requests additional laboratory data about the Volcano@, additional funding may be necessary.

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Re: Vap Residue for Butter?

I vaped at 6 to 8. So 2 sticks of butter and heat in pan? Any particular temp or time?
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I vaped at 6 to 8. So 2 sticks of butter and heat in pan? Any particular temp or time?
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I just read another thread, if my request breaks forum rules, disregard and apologies to WT staff.
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I vaped at 6 to 8. So 2 sticks of butter and heat in pan? Any particular temp or time?
dude no talk of making it. google it , make cannabutter.
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Re: Vap Residue for Butter?

if you use a pan double boil it, meaning put a pot of water on low then put a smaller pot with butter and water inside the bigger warm water bath, idea being not to burn the butter. You melt it add the vape tailings and low cook for a few hours if you can go 4 hrs. it is best, then strain and chill. Take the butter off the water and your golden. Hope it helps to ease what ails ya.

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Re: Vap Residue for Butter?

I took advice of others and visited a site that described a 22-24 hour slow extraction. I thought my timing appropriate, completing the process today, April 20.

I'd like any blogger advice that will direct me to a site where I can see the final product. My butter smells right, but looks like pea-colored soup made of pure grease. Not exactly appetizing, but it is just infused butter.

Tomorrow, I'll buy brownie mix and bake for next weekend. Thanks to all helping momma churn butter. I'll report result later this week.

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Yeah, that sounds about right.
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Guess I'm the only one to say,throw that stuff away,ok?
 
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I have an ounce of vap leftovers, is there any use for it in cooking? Perhaps just to make butter, or? Any recipes out there? Keep it basic, I am a newbie here and a better cook than baker.


IT IS GOING TO TASTE HORRIBLE !!!!
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Re: Vap Residue for Butter?

Please report how it turned out. My Dr. recommended to me to make butter with my vape remains to get the CBD content out of the remains. He says this is what I need for my Crohn's. Very curious to see how it works for you.


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I took advice of others and visited a site that described a 22-24 hour slow extraction. I thought my timing appropriate, completing the process today, April 20.

I'd like any blogger advice that will direct me to a site where I can see the final product. My butter smells right, but looks like pea-colored soup made of pure grease. Not exactly appetizing, but it is just infused butter.

Tomorrow, I'll buy brownie mix and bake for next weekend. Thanks to all helping momma churn butter. I'll report result later this week.

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Guess I'm the only one to say,throw that stuff away,ok?
Why? You're throwing away valuable cannibidnols that can be utilized. Throwing it away is like throwing away shake. It can still be used.




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IT IS GOING TO TASTE HORRIBLE !!!!
I have made cannabutter from vapor poo, and it taste just fine, just like cannabutter made from shake or leaf.

Besides which, half the reason to make edibles and especially making cookies/brownies/sweets is to mask the taste anyway.


Seriously there is absolutely no reason to discourage someone from using their vapor remains and making cannabutter. It WORKS.
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Guess I'm the only one to say,throw that stuff away,ok?
I would save it for a Rainy Day.. But, Cooking with it Will surely make you PUKE!
Smoking it is pretty Sad as well.. But, It does give a Mild High (Ad tastes like Sh--.)
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Why? You're throwing away valuable cannibidnols that can be utilized. Throwing it away is like throwing away shake. It can still be used.






I have made cannabutter from vapor poo, and it taste just fine, just like cannabutter made from shake or leaf.

Besides which, half the reason to make edibles and especially making cookies/brownies/sweets is to mask the taste anyway.


Seriously there is absolutely no reason to discourage someone from using their vapor remains and making cannabutter. It WORKS.
Maybe we have different tastes.. I happen to not like the Horrid Taste of Re-Vape (What I call it)..
Cooking with it is just WRONG if you care in any way about flavor..
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Re: Vap Residue for Butter?

Have you ever actually tried to make Cannabutter with Vapor Residue? I would agree I would not smoke it, but I have made Cannabutter, and it was pretty much exactly the same as the Cannabutter I've bought in dispensaries.

Perhaps the method you used to make the butter didn't work out right, OR you used too much residue. I dunno, but I know several dispensaries do the same thing with all their vapor residues from their vapor lounges (only they don't sell the resulting edibles to patients, only use them for themselves).
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Have you ever actually tried to make Cannabutter with Vapor Residue? I would agree I would not smoke it, but I have made Cannabutter, and it was pretty much exactly the same as the Cannabutter I've bought in dispensaries.

Perhaps the method you used to make the butter didn't work out right, OR you used too much residue. I dunno, but I know several dispensaries do the same thing with all their vapor residues from their vapor lounges (only they don't sell the resulting edibles to patients, only use them for themselves).
Interesting.. I have tried it.. I actually used to Make and Vend Canna Butter and Ghee. You get what you put into it.. I would rather use Mexi Brick weed 4 butter.. But, Hey, As long as it works for you.. More Power to you Wild Will.
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Yeah, I guess it's purely a personal taste. Like some people really like to clean their pipes and smoke the resin, and I wouldn't even DreAM of doing that anymore.
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I would save it for a Rainy Day.. But, Cooking with it Will surely make you PUKE!
Smoking it is pretty Sad as well.. But, It does give a Mild High (Ad tastes like Sh--.)
Finally baked today. I used a mix from Baker Mills, Kodiak Cakes, wholewheat extra chocolate brownies. And you know what? Very nice buzz, and tasty too! Not real strong, but definitely worth the effort. I still have butter left over too. eed to plan my next baking adventure...
Thanks to all for help and input.
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Yes absolutely you can make cannabutter out of the vapor poo (that's what I call it). Use the same method of making cannabutter that you would normally use and make it into cookies or some such.

It won't be as potent as an ounce of shake or leaf, but it will be useful. I tend to get a lot of body effects from volcannabutter. Oooh I coined a term.

Last time I made sugar cookies, and they turned out OK, again, very good body effect, though you did have to eat two or three of them to get any results. I might have used too much butter for the amount of poo that I had. Your mileage may vary.


Generally two sticks of butter per 1/2 oz of poo will make a decent cannabutter. More poo will make it even better.
Hi there I don't want to question you but... I vaporize alot & have more vaporized material than I can use, what else can you use it for. other cooking or milk what about oil for body pain or maybe for sleeping... thanks Peace & Love
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