[Greenbud]

WT's,

Occured to me that peanut butter is near liquid when hot. Could it not be used as a fat-soluble medium if heated as butter or oil? Would like to make medicated peanut butter without adding infused oil or butter to the mix. Figure it could work. Any one have experience with peanut butter?

Hoping someone has some info...thanks in advance!

GB

The recipes i've seen use ISO (alcohol) hash oil stirred into hot peanut butter.

My guess is your idea would work but it wouldn't get all the goodies out unless you kept it hot for many hours.. Hence adding the iso oil.

[dpla]

Ah, PB&J.
Fond memories of my first edible.
My recipe:
Heat favorite bud to temperature not greater than 315 degrees Fahrenheit for 15 minutes. This boils off any undesirable aspects of eating bush type plant matter.
Grind up backed bud.
Mix 3/4 teaspoon of ground bud in my PB&J stuff.
Eat sandwich.
Go for walk.
One and one half hours later, not sure of surroundings, I was born here but maybe not.
Is this Oz?

[13ongie420]

Do you mean Medicated Peanut Budder?

Originally Posted by dpla

Ah, PB&J.
Fond memories of my first edible.
My recipe:
Heat favorite bud to temperature not greater than 315 degrees Fahrenheit for 15 minutes. This boils off any undesirable aspects of eating bush type plant matter.
Grind up backed bud.
Mix 3/4 teaspoon of ground bud in my PB&J stuff.
Eat sandwich.
Go for walk.
One and one half hours later, not sure of surroundings, I was born here but maybe not.
Is this Oz?

Firecrackers, eh? I used to like those! Quick and easy.

You can decarb at 190 and not lose as much actives. But eating plant matter will upset a lot of peoples tummies! Plus if you have a digestive disorder, it could land you in the ER.

Just a caveat to those who stomachs are sensitive. Edibles with butter, infused oil, bubble are well tolerated. But raw cannabis is bad mojo for some. (IBS, Chrons, Colitis, ulcers)

[dpla]

Originally Posted by kwicky

Firecrackers, eh? I used to like those! Quick and easy.

You can decarb at 190 and not lose as much actives. But eating plant matter will upset a lot of peoples tummies! Plus if you have a digestive disorder, it could land you in the ER.

Just a caveat to those who stomachs are sensitive. Edibles with butter, infused oil, bubble are well tolerated. But raw cannabis is bad mojo for some. (IBS, Chrons, Colitis, ulcers)

212 F. is boiling for water and qualifies plant matter as a cooked vegetable.
The additional temperature, 315, boils off most of the terpenes (the hydro carbons) so as to make your meds more tolerable as well as chemically activated for the two or three desired cannabinoids.

Those who know know what they can not eat.
First timers should maybe limit a dose to more like one half teaspoon depending on the potency of the bud and ones tolerance.
It can get a little strange and mysterious out if you eat too much bud, and possibly scary, or stupid but I never heard of anyone dying from it.
I got my neighbor to eat a teaspoon full and he only thought he was going to die.
My other neighbor, the big guy, says two thirds tsp was too much for him and I prefer one half tsp.
Peace

Originally Posted by kwicky

Firecrackers, eh? I used to like those! Quick and easy.

You can decarb at 190 and not lose as much actives. But eating plant matter will upset a lot of peoples tummies! Plus if you have a digestive disorder, it could land you in the ER.

Just a caveat to those who stomachs are sensitive. Edibles with butter, infused oil, bubble are well tolerated. But raw cannabis is bad mojo for some. (IBS, Chrons, Colitis, ulcers)

Originally Posted by dpla

212 F. is boiling for water and qualifies plant matter as a cooked vegetable.
The additional temperature, 315, boils off most of the terpenes (the hydro carbons) so as to make your meds more tolerable as well as chemically activated for the two or three desired cannabinoids.
--snip--

Oh my! Boiling vegatables? Did you know that won't remove the sharp cystolith hairs that could land a GI patient in the ER?

You may want to look into EVAPORATION and boiling points of terpines.
Or not.... I just don't want to see anyone waste actives or end up in the ER. Do you?

You say you are removing the terpines??. How many are gone at 315f? Just ONE.. read on:

Phytocannabinoids, their boiling points, and properties

D-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)
Boiling point: 157*C / 314.6 degree Fahrenheit

cannabidiol (CBD)
Boiling point: 160-180*C / 320-356 degree Fahrenheit

Cannabinol (CBN)
Boiling point: 185*C / 365 degree Fahrenheit

cannabichromene (CBC)
Boiling point: 220*C / 428 degree Fahrenheit

cannabigerol (CBG)
Boiling point: MP52

D-8-tetrahydrocannabinol (D-8-THC)
Boiling point: 175-178*C / 347-352.4 degree Fahrenheit

tetrahydrocannabivarin (THCV)
Boiling point: < 220*C / <428 degree Fahrenheit

---- >>>Terpenoid essential oils, their boiling points, and properties

ß-myrcene
Boiling point: 166-168*C / 330.8-334.4 degree Fahrenheit

ß-caryophyllene
Boiling point: 119*C / 246.2 degree Fahrenheit

d-limonene
Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit

linalool
Boiling point: 198*C / 388.4 degree Fahrenheit

pulegone
Boiling point: 224*C / 435.2 degree Fahrenheit

1,8-cineole (eucalyptol)
Boiling point: 176*C / 348.8 degree Fahrenheit

a-pinene
Boiling point: 156*C / 312.8 degree Fahrenheit

a-terpineol
Boiling point: 217-218*C / 422.6-424.4 degree Fahrenheit

terpineol-4-ol
Boiling point: 209*C / 408.2 degree Fahrenheit

p-cymene
Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit

Flavonoid and phytosterol components, their boiling points, and properties

apigenin
Boiling point: 178*C / 352.4 degree Fahrenheit

quercetin
Boiling point: 250*C / 482 degree Fahrenheit

cannflavin A
Boiling point: 182*C / 359.6 degree Fahrenheit

ß-sitosterol
Boiling point: 134*C / 273.2 degree Fahrenheit

[dpla]

Originally Posted by kwicky

I just don't want to see anyone waste actives or end up in the ER. Do you?

I appreciate your concern for our sisters and brothers with digestive tract disorders and would never suggest anyone with such disabilities do something they know would harm them.
I did find discrepancies in your vapodata list. I'm simply using Wikipedia as my resource.
They show 392 F. as the boiling point for THC (200 °C (392 °F) 0.02mmHg).
I can find only limited info on the worth of all the cannabinoids.
I did find out about the Terpenes, THC, CBN, THCV and some of the remaining non-psychoactive cannabinoids and how certain cannabinoids block THC from being attached to a brain receptor.
There is some info I found that shows how in an acid state these anti THC caccabinoids can be converted to THC.
The concentrated resins from cannabis using the alcohol extraction method is the best for a cannabis eater, from what I found out but, I'm on fixed income and want to keep my inability to inhale my meds less costly then it already is in it's raw unprocessed state.
It works great for me, a catastrophically disabled person.
Not for everyone I assure you; I recommend reading: http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/Ludlow/THE/index.html

[dpla]

Take a dose of the ground baked bud and sprinkle it around in your peanut butter sandwich.
Grill the sandwich.
Don't burn your mouth.
Grilled peanut butter and bacon sandwiches were always good.

[dpla]

Originally Posted by kwicky

Phytocannabinoids, their boiling points, and properties

Where can I find an oven that could hold a couple of ounces and be accurate enough to get close to, without vaporizing, the psychoactives (i.e. THC & CBN)?
It looks like I need to go up to 360 F., no more.

[ddub420]

Originally Posted by dpla

212 F. is boiling for water and qualifies plant matter as a cooked vegetable.
The additional temperature, 315, boils off most of the terpenes (the hydro carbons) so as to make your meds more tolerable as well as chemically activated for the two or three desired cannabinoids.

Those who know know what they can not eat.
First timers should maybe limit a dose to more like one half teaspoon depending on the potency of the bud and ones tolerance.
It can get a little strange and mysterious out if you eat too much bud, and possibly scary, or stupid but I never heard of anyone dying from it.
I got my neighbor to eat a teaspoon full and he only thought he was going to die.
My other neighbor, the big guy, says two thirds tsp was too much for him and I prefer one half tsp.
Peace

Yeah I had a friend eat too much one time and woke up in a hospital trying to figure out why he had a tube up his package and why his mom looked so pissed.

[dpla]

Originally Posted by ddub420

Yeah I had a friend eat too much one time and woke up in a hospital trying to figure out why he had a tube up his package and why his mom looked so pissed.

What the hell did he do to get in that situation? Panic attack is the most I seen from over consumption of weed.

[dpla]

So, using KWICKY's information as corrected (i.e. THC boiling point), it looks like you could safely boil off everything below 350 or even 360 if you had an accurate enough oven or vaporizer. Grind it, put as much as is comfy in the peanut butter, make a peanut butter sandwich with jelly or something sweet, I understand sugars may aid in absorption of the THC. If you made a whole jar of the stuff I would imagine the THC would start leaching out into the peanut oils. Remember, if you have digestive track disorders you are better off using hash or other concentrates in your peanut butter, otherwise, bon appétit.