The Los Angeles City Council will vote on an ordinance regulating medical cannabis collectives next week, and we need you to help us make it workable. There are some provisions in the draft ordinance that are simply unacceptable. If these are adopted and enforced, many of the city’s collectives will be forced to close.

Can you take a moment today to call your representative on the Los Angeles City Council and ask him or her to make the changes listed below? It does make a difference! City Councilmember’s have already responded to community input by making big improvements in the draft ordinance.

You can find your City Council representative by typing your address in the “My Neighborhood” box at The Official Web Site of The City of Los Angeles - Home or by calling (213) 978-1020.

Don’t live in Los Angeles? No problem! May we recommend you contact City Council President Eric Garcetti at (213)-473-7013?

Tell you representative: “I am support sensible regulations for medical cannabis in Los Angeles. I want you to adopt the changes recommended by advocates on Friday, November 20. Specifically, I want you to…”

(Pick two or three points here that are most important to you)

• Protect patients’ rights by keeping records confidential
• Adopt buffer zones of 500 feet or less between collectives and sensitive uses
• Let collectives share an alley with residential uses
• Reject a narrow definition of a collective that requires on-site cultivation
• Allow a sufficient number of collectives to serve the growing number of
patients in the city – at least two hundred

Make these calls now so that City Councilmember’s know what patients need before Tuesday’s vote.

Thanks for helping!

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I have a hardship exemption for my Collective in Chatsworth, is that piece of documentation going to become worthless when the City Council vote on the new ordinance Tuesday? The hardship exemption Collectives should be given a chance to comply with the new ordinances or at the very least given our constitutional right of appearing before the PLUM Committee and pleading our cases individually.

Next issue, do you think that the city will have another delay on Tuesday or do you think that they will finally vote on it?

If they do vote on it and it passes, wont about half of the original 186 Collectives/ Dispensaries have to close due to zoning issues? ex: schools, 1000ft away from another Collective, etc. We should all stand united as Collectives in the face adversity however, I realize that everybody is looking out for themselves which is very unfortunate.

I admit that I am hoping that the Council votes to let the hard-ship exemption Collectives stay in operation. (Remember there are over 500 of us) We do have legal recourse we can take and sue the City since we won the Dispensary Ban 2 weeks ago. I am also hoping, wishing, and praying that our community stays in tact and that the 100% legitimate Collectives get to stay in operation. That's all for now.

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David Nutt, removed as chair of the British government’s Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs for daring to speak the unwanted truth that marijuana is safer than alcohol, is speaking out again, this time in the pages of The Lancet, one of the world’s top medical journals. Unfortunately, you can read only the first [...]

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the long beach "beachcomber" local newspaper, is asking how we feel about medical cannabis dispensarys operating in long beach?!? for or against,
go to : Welcome to the Beachcomber Newspaper and vote.
then email your comments to:
editor@longbeachcomber.com

all long beach patients should chime in!
and even some non long beachians as well, that will be swell :thumb:...

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It's a little old, but it describes the kind of person he is:

YouTube - #5 Drug Cartels Corruption District Attorney Steve Cooley

My guess is that he's got powerful interests that are "encouraging" him
to attack MMJ.

Who is this @hole?

http://www.latimes.com/videobeta/?wa...b-f41879c3a271

And what is wrong with the LAtimes? Mocking the ill.

How hateful and shameful.

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So two potheads have been charged with possession :-( and both plead "no contest." The judge decides to be lenient on them and not give them any time if they spend the next 24 hours reforming evil drug users. (Must have been a first offense.) They return to the courthouse the next day and the judge asks them how many people they've gotten off drugs. The first guy says, "Twenty-four!" "Amazing," says Hizzoner, since that's about 12,000 times better than the statistics. "How'd you do it?" "Simple," says the head. "I just show them: 'O' - This is your brain; 'o' - this is your brain on drugs." "Impressive," says the judge. Turning to the second head, he says, "And how did you fare?" "Yer honor, I saved 233 souls from the bonds of the evil weed." "And how did you manage that?" "Kinda the same as the other guy, 'cept I told people: 'o' - this is your asshole; 'O' - THIS is your asshole in prison.". :whistle:

Hey guys, love AEC! have been to many collectives but i always go to AEC nowadays. I was wondering if you ever get any og kush clones? or any type of kush? thanks a lot!:tortue-musique:

Does anyone have any suggestions on telling which strain will be the best when your in the clubs? I usually just look at the price, hairs, white crystals, and check the smell. Any other ways to tell?

Pot dispensary employee shot
CRIME: Two men attempt to rob clinic on Magnolia Avenue.
By Tracy Manzer
Staff Writer
Posted: 11/18/2009 01:38:39 PM PST

LONG BEACH - And here we always thought marijuana was supposed to help you mellow out.

Turns out that wasn't the case Monday afternoon when two armed bandits shot a 41-year-old employee of a Long Beach medical marijuana clinic during a robbery at the location, police said Wednesday.

The robbery began at about 2:10 p.m. when two armed men entered the medical marijuana clinic in the 2600 block of Magnolia Avenue, said Nancy Pratt, a Long Beach Police Department spokeswoman.

One of the armed men pointed a handgun at an employee and threatened him while the other robber gathered all the marijuana on hand, Pratt said.

During the robbery, a scuffle broke out between one of the gunmen and a customer in the dispensary and the employee was shot in the lower body, she said.

The two armed men then fled the business on foot. It was not clear in which direction they traveled, she said.

The victim, a 41-year-old male, was taken to a local hospital with a non-life-threatening injury, Pratt said.

The robbery comes on the heels of a string of armed robberies in the Lakewood and Long Beach area, but this incident does not appear to be related to the recent spree, Pratt said.

"It's a different suspect description," she explained.

Anyone with information is asked to call Detective Don Collier at 562-570-7464.

Hey I'm about to move to Long Beach and want to know the growing laws. Right now I'm growing 9 plants (3 immature, 6 mature) and have a garden extension from my doctor to grow 15 plants total at a time. The last thing I want to do is get in trouble with the law so I'm wondering if they respect the garden extension or not. Please let me know if you have any suggestions. Thank you!

Oh look. Steve Lopez wrote about one of my favorite ladies. Possible bias aside, she's a nice doctor who examined me and asked questions when I had seen her as a patient.

High fashion in the medicinal high business -- latimes.com

Dr. Sona Patel, who worked as a model while going to medical school, is not your ordinary medical marijuana specialist. Her ads and her appearance emphasize glamour.

By Steve Lopez
November 18, 2009

The physician was wearing high heels, a tight-fitting white lab coat and lots of gold jewelry, which is not quite what you expect to see when you visit a pot doctor. Nor do you expect to see a chandelier the size of a Christmas tree in a waiting room decorated like an Indian palace.

Dr. Sona Patel told me that's just who she is. Her Melrose Avenue office, she said, is designed in much the same way as her home in Hollywood.

You may be wondering what I'm doing in the office of yet another cannabis specialist, given my fruitful encounter last month with a physician in Glendale. That doctor had told me he knew nothing about back problems because he was a gynecologist, but he wrote me a marijuana recommendation after a 10-minute "exam."

But in California, you're entitled to a second opinion, and I had some more questions. I was wondering how and why a doctor goes from conventional to herbal medicine, and I called Patel, intrigued by her glamorous ads in local publications. The whole California marijuana adventure seems like an herb-fired hallucination, but what must her story be?

Before I visited Patel, I called state regulatory officials to discuss my Glendale experience. Much has been written about the explosion of dispensaries, particularly since Los Angeles has made such a mess of things, allowing several hundreds of storefront pot outlets to open without permits. But far less has been written about the doctors.

Is there any oversight for those who appear to be running patients through mills at $100 or more a pop, faster than you can open your mouth and say, "Ahhhh?"

Not a great deal.

A spokeswoman for the Medical Board of California told me that only 81 complaints have been made against marijuana doctors since 1996, and investigations have led to disciplinary action against just 10 doctors. The medical board is expected to consider early next year whether to be a little more proactive, and re-establish guidelines for conducting exams and issuing "recommendations."

Frank Lucido, an Oakland physician, has been speaking out for doctors who fear they're all being tainted by unprofessional colleagues who are rubber-stamping marijuana recommendations.

"I schedule 45 minutes for a first-time patient and 30 for a repeat patient," said Lucido, who suggests that California has become the "Wild West," with thousands of dispensaries, hundreds of doctors and varying laws from one city to the next.

Lucido said he's trying to hold the middle ground between drug war partisans who oppose marijuana altogether, and those who are ready to party on the other side, faking medical need so they can light up recreationally.

Where does Dr. Patel stand?

Her office, which doesn't look like much from the outside, sits across the street from Melrose Organic Pharmacy, where I purchased some Skywalker buds as part of my research last month. Good for back pain, said the clerk.

At Patel's office, Shannon, the office manager, was also in high heels. All right, what is this, a modeling agency or a doctor's office?

The high fashion is just a style preference, said Dr. Patel, 34, who uses her own image in advertising materials, often in different hairstyles.

But is the glamour about creating a marketing niche -- she'll fix what ails you, and she looks like a beauty queen, to boot! -- in a crowded field?

No, Patel said. But as a matter of fact, she worked as a model to help pay medical school bills, and the glam shots she uses were actually meant to market a cosmetics line that never got off the ground.

So how did she get into herbal medicine?

Patel said she grew up in Chino Hills and went to medical school in the Caribbean, having wanted to be a doctor from the time she was 5.

She ran a family practice and clinic in Hollywood, but grew weary of prescribing pharmaceuticals with potentially serious side effects to patients suffering from diabetes, AIDS, migraines and other maladies. Some of those patients asked if she would recommend marijuana instead.

"I began to research it and incorporated it into my practice," Patel said.

To her surprise, patients often got greater relief from pot than from prescription drugs -- and they reported no side effects. In 2007, she shut down her family practice on Sunset and went herbal all the way on Melrose. Her answer to the obvious question? Yes, the money is better.

Patel told me she worked briefly in San Francisco and was the subject of an unflattering TV news story in which two TV producers said that getting a recommendation from her was laughably easy. The story, which I later checked, also noted that Patel was in hot pants and high heels on materials advertising her business, and that she used the name Doc 420, the 420 being street slang for marijuana. We've come a long way since Marcus Welby.

The story was a distortion, Patel insisted.

Well, whatever. I still find the high heels and lab coat a little strange, but it also seems weird that I can legally buy buds in virtually every corner of the city because a gynecologist said I could.

Patel said she now sees 15 to 20 patients daily and said she generally spends 30 minutes or so with each, and she reviews their medical records before recommending marijuana. On average, Patel said, she denies recommendations for between two and five patients daily who don't prove a medical need.

I should note here that before I met Dr. Patel, I got an e-mail from a patient who was upset about her denying him a recommendation, and that was one reason I wanted to meet her.

Patel said that if you haven't been previously diagnosed with a condition that has existed for at least six months, and you haven't tried conventional medicine, don't bother making an appointment with her.

But she's convinced that marijuana, used properly, is improving the quality of life for many patients who got no such relief from prescription drugs.

If marijuana becomes completely legal, regulated and taxed in California -- which is where we ought to go, if you ask me, ending the bogus drug war and the dispensary/recommendation charade -- it might mean the end of Dr. Patel's business.

If so, she said, she won't go back to conventional medicine. She might instead go back to school and study various Eastern and alternative medicines.

That would cost a ton.

But modeling got her through school once, and she's still got the high heels.

steve.lopez@latimes.com

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Nice, but has naughty lapses. High marks in the good deeds department. Better than average manners. Hopefully, thoughtfulness will continue to be as good as last month. Neatness needs improvement!

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lets try to the get whole medical marijuana community and family and friends to boycott partnership for a drug free America sponsor which include the tobacco,alcohol and pharmaceutical companies.the only way to show them we mean business is to hit them where it hurts ,in the pocketbook.so maybe we can plan 1 day a week not to purchase tobacco and alcohol.plus if partnership for a drug free America really cared about our health they would want nothing to do with companies that are responsible for millions of peoples deaths every year.

Another Justice Department Web site with a cute name is hanging on to misinformation about the American Medical Association’s position on medical marijuana. From JustThinkTwice.org: The American Medical Association has rejected pleas to endorse marijuana as medicine, and instead has urged that marijuana remain a prohibited, Schedule I drug, at least until more research is done. It’s false, [...]

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ONE SENATOR'S CHOICE: OBAMACARE OR REELECTION

By DICK MORRIS

Published on DickMorris.com on November 19, 2009

A Zogby Poll this week illustrates the stark choice facing Senate Democrats as they have to decide whether or not to vote for ObamaCare. The poll shows that Arkansas Sen. Blanche Lincoln, high up on the list of vulnerable Senate Democrats seeking reelection in 2010, literally faces a choice between being reelected and voting for the bill.

The Zogby Poll shows Arkansans opposed to the Obama/Reid bill by 28-64, with 50 percent "strongly opposed" to the legislation. To swim in the face of such a current of public opinion is risky business for a U.S. senator.

Lincoln's most likely Republican opponent, state Sen. Gilbert Bennett, is hot on her heels in the poll, trailing by only 41-39. But asked who they would support if Lincoln votes for ObamaCare, Arkansas voters switch to Bennett, giving him a 49-36 victory. That Lincoln goes from two points ahead to 13 points behind over one Senate vote illustrates the potency of the opposition to healthcare changes.

Most Arkansans don't know how Lincoln will vote. Forty-two percent predicted that she would back the bill, but 24 percent said she was more likely to oppose it. Thirty-six percent did not know.

Her fellow Arkansas senator, Mark Pryor (D), is also in play on this legislation. Thirty-five percent of his voters think he will vote yes, while 18 percent think he will vote no and 47 percent don't know.

While Pryor is not up for reelection this year, he is also almost certainly signing his political death warrant if he votes for the bill.

This survey, taken by Zogby, was funded by the League of American Voters as part of its efforts to influence swing senators and defeat the healthcare legislation. The League has been running ads in Arkansas aimed at explaining the costs of the bill both for the old and the young. The polling shows that the ads are working.

The League has run ads in Indiana, North Dakota, Nebraska, Louisiana, North Carolina, Virginia, Maine, Montana, Colorado, Florida and Connecticut to push swing senators to oppose the bill. It will retain Zogby to do surveys in many of these states to bring home to their senators how strongly those they represent do not want this bill to pass.

As part of the League's work against the bill, Dick went to Arkansas on Thursday, November 19th to tour the state and to publicize the findings of the Zogby Poll. In three press conferences (in Little Rock, Conway, and Hot Springs), Dick warned Senator Lincoln about how strongly her constituents feel about the bill.

The recent decision of the federal government to recommend that women abstain from annual mammograms illustrates well, exactly how Obamacare would force a deterioration in the quality of medical care, particularly for the elderly.

The panel evaluating the effectiveness of mammograms did not find that they don't work or that they do not save lives. Rather, it found that the lives they save are not "worth" the cost of annual testing. This bureaucratic balancing of human life and financial cost lies at the core of the government managed health care in the Obama Bill.

To maximize your chances of avoiding breast cancer, women over 50 should, of course, be tested annually. But to save the government money and to conserve scarce resources, the government would like them to increase their chances of becoming sick and get screened only every other year.

Under our current health care system, the government can only recommend such changes. But under Obamacare, it can and will require them.

This rationing of health care, of course, primarily effects the elderly since it is they who need care the most. Who could ask for a better illustration of how this system would work than the government's sudden discovery that saving lives through mammograms is not worth the cost?

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Senior Health Care SolutionSo you're a senior citizen and the government says no health care for you, what do you do? Our plan gives anyone 65 years or older a gun and 4 bullets. You are allowed to shoot 2 senators and 2 representatives. Of course, this means you will be sent to prison where you will get 3 meals a day, a roof over your head, and all the health care you need! New teeth, no problem. Need glasses, great. New hip, knees, kidney, lungs, heart? All covered.



And who will be paying for all of this? The same government that just told you that you are too old for health care. Plus, because you are a prisoner, you don't have to pay any income taxes anymore.



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Yep... what do you think. I asked a fellow citizen, if he thought cannabis should be legalized, his response was:
Prostitution should be legalized, because it would save marriages and make money....
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BBC News : Somali woman stoned for adultery


Somali woman stoned for adultery



A 20-year-old woman divorcee accused of committing adultery in Somalia has been stoned to death by Islamists in front of a crowd of about 200 people.

A judge working for the militant group al-Shabab said she had had an affair with an unmarried 29-year-old man.

He said she gave birth to a still-born baby and was found guilty of adultery. Her boyfriend was given 100 lashes.

It is thought to be the second time a woman has been stoned to death for adultery by al-Shabab.

The group controls large swathes of southern Somalia where they have imposed a strict interpretation of Islamic law which has been unpopular with many Somalis.

'Lenient'

According to reports from a small village near the town of Wajid, 250 miles (400km) north-west of the capital, Mogadishu, the woman was taken to the public grounds where she was buried up to her waist.

She was then stoned to death in front of the crowds on Tuesday afternoon.

The judge, Sheikh Ibrahim Abdirahman, said her unmarried boyfriend was given 100 lashes at the same venue.

Under al-Shabab's interpretation of Sharia law, anyone who has ever been married - even a divorcee - who has an affair is liable to be found guilty of adultery, punishable by stoning to death.

An unmarried person who has sex before marriage is liable to be given 100 lashes.

BBC East Africa correspondent Will Ross says the stoning is at least the fourth for adultery in Somalia over the last year.

Earlier this month, a man was stoned to death for adultery in the port town of Merka, south of Mogadishu.

His pregnant girlfriend was spared, until she gives birth.

A girl was stoned to death for adultery in the southern town of Kismayo last year. Human rights groups said she was 13 years old and had been raped, but the Islamists said she was older and had been married.

Last month, two men were stoned to death in Merka after being accused of spying.

President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, a moderate Islamist, was sworn in as president after UN-brokered peace talks in January.

Although he says he also wants to implement Sharia, al-Shabab says his version of Islamic law would be too lenient.

The country has not had a functioning national government for 18 years.

Its not just in Somalia

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Who is this competition everyone talks about? Are they in it for the $$$ or to help us. I think the price will climb because the clubs won’t be flood with marijuana from people in it for just the $$$ or off the black market. Be real we all know it happens. Those are the ones that will go away when they have to start paying there share of the taxes. That’s the sad true. Do we want these people to stay? Just because they limit club doesn’t mean the supply should go away unless it’s from people right now that are only in if for the $$$ or the black market so there will be less in the clubs.

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I attended both City Council meetings this week, and one great public comment came from a lady, saying that the State Board of Equalization is collecting "SALES tax" from the Collectives. If so, this would seem to be PROOF POSITIVE that the State recognizes "sales transactions" at Collectives.

Can any of you Collective owners confirm that you do, indeed, charge sales tax and then pass it on to the State Board of Equalization? If so, I think we have a great point from which to argue our case.

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Reputable MDs Buy NorCal Health Care
By FRED GARDNER

Doctors Philip A. Denney and Michael Gitter and businessman Omar Salah are buying NorCal Healthcare, the chain of cannabis-consultation offices whose founder, Hany Assad, has had his license revoked. Denney, 61, will be seeing NorCal patients in Oakland as of today (Nov. 19). He is past president of the Society of Cannabis Clinicians, and widely respected within the field. Denney will continue to see patients two days a week in Carmichael at the office he shares with Robert Sullivan, MD.

Gitter, 65, who has offices in Redding and Lake Forest, will recruit more doctors to help staff NorCal. Assad had been the sole MD, flying from city to city in his own small plane. He employed a nurse practitioner in Oakland and Ukiah, and a physician's assistant in Arcata to examine patients and update charts. Assad saw patients himself in Bakersfield, and it was in this context that he conferred an ADD diagnosis on an 18-year-old after a work-up that the medical board deemed inadequate.

"The reason NorCal needed to be rescued was not because of the mid-level practitioners," says Denney, referring to the nurse practioner and PA. "The use of mid-levels in a cannabis practice is perfectly appropriate. There's still a stigma that keeps physicians away from the field, and perhaps millions of patients who could benefit from cannabis as medicine and need the service [a consultation leading to a doctor's approval]." Denney will supervise NorCal's mid-levels to ensure that patients are examined and records kept according to accepted medical standards.

The medical board insists on a "good-faith examination" prior to a cannabis recommendation. This is how Dr. Denney interprets that vague requirement:

"The patient sits down and you take a history. 'How old are you? What do you do for a living? What medical problem brings you to see us today? Do you have a history of other illness? Have you had previous surgeries? Are you currently taking medications? What are you allergic to?' Etc., etc. With a new patient you have to ask about family history and do a brief 'review of systems.' That involves asking, 'Do you have any vision problems? Hearing problems? Headaches? Knee problems? Any problems with your teeth? Back problems? Chest problems? Cough?' You go down the list. I like doing it verbally because the interaction with the patient can be revealing. Most doctors do it by questionnaire.

"After taking a history and reviewing what records are available, the practitioner conducts a physical examination. It can be fairly focused and brief. It includes complete vital signs -height, weight, temperature, blood pressure, pulse rate and quality, pain assessment and body-mass index. My practice involves a head-to-toe -and this is what the mid-levels will do for NorCal under my supervision. For a new patient I look in your throat, I look in your ears, I check your pupils, I check your scalp, I check the range of motion in your eyes, I palpate your neck, I look for thyroid lymph nodes. Depending on the circumstances I may listen to your carotid arteries. I will certainly listen to your chest, your heart, check your peripheral reflexes and strength. I typically do a Romberg exam, meaning you stand up with your eyes closed and your feet together. I ask patients to squat. If you have back pain I'll do a straight leg-raising test and test the strength and sensation in your toes. If you have a history of chronic Hepatitis C I'm going to lay you down and feel your liver. I only occasionally do a genital exam. I have done one rectal exam -on a patient who had had extensive rectal surgery.

"Then I -or the mid-level- would have a discussion with the patient about cannabis. 'How much do you use? How does it help you? Adverse effects Has it ever gotten you in trouble? Any current issues with it? Etc. etc.' We typically have a discussion about the benefits and alternatives. We have to formulate a treatment plan- another vague term. I typically write 'Okay for cannabis for one year. Continue primary care. Call or come in if any questions or problems.'

"And then of course the exam has to be properly recorded in the patient's chart."

Under Assad, NorCal was charging new patients $125; renewals, which were available by phone, cost $100. The new owners plan to charge new patients $150 -"for superior service," says Denney- and have yet to define their policy on renewals. The ballpark price for a medical practice is one year's net income. Assad was reportedly asking $1.2 million.

Assad Defends His Approach

Hany Assad, MD, the prolific issuer of cannabis approvals whose license was revoked Oct. 23, emailed a response to our account of his downfall in CounterPunch (which, he acknowledged, "did not depart from the facts.") His English is funky but some of his points are well taken. The first refers to SW, an 18-year-old alcoholic whose cannabis use Assad authorized after diagnosing him with Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD). SW's parents complained to the Medical Board of California (MBC) which, after an investigation and a hearing before an administrative law judge (ALJ), determined that Assad had not conducted a proper exam to support the ADD diagnosis. (The parents pressured the kid into testifying against Assad. Could the family dynamic have something to do with his problems?)

1 RE the charge of the way I have approached for evaluating and then making the new diagnosis of ADD. The patient while under oath announced, as a surprise to the ALJ and to everyone at the court at that time, that a diagnosis of ADD was made 4 months (about 19 months after my diagnosis was made) prior to that hearing through an expert psychiatrist out of Kaiser with tests that complies with the "Standard of Care". That was not taken into consideration by the judge. Did she missed or just ignored it? Is there any questions will be asked why that diagnosis was missed by his treating psychiatrists at Kaiser for many years till Hany Assad can make it without following the standard of care???

2 RE charge of failure to obtain 'Medical Records' from treating physician. It is a known fact that the previous medical records for a patient are only critical within first 12 hours of treatment on emergency setting ER or ICU.

3 Charge of illegible hand writing in the records. Still I prefer to have my treating physician caring about my health and the best to be done at the time allowed vs caring to have nicely written medical records for the satisfaction of the MBC.

4 It is a fact that if the case against a physician after investigation initiated by a consumer is closed no cost recovery will be done. On the other hand, if MBC can find a way to file charges through their paid AG Office they can request cost recovery to be paid by the physician as a condition of his probation. YES cost recovery of exaggerated expenses. I have to admit that I had mine at that time at a sale price with discount of 50% so I had to pay only $50,000 initially then $4000 for each year of probation. I found accepting a deal of that nature instead of going to a trial by an administrative Judge paid by MBC is the least harmful of the two options. FYI MBC had to stop that "Bully" strategies after the Precedential case of Dr Mikuriya.

5 The only interview by MBC for me in the presence of my attorney was conducted by 2 ignorant investigators asking me how did I evaluate my patient. Yes two ignorant police officers reading questions from a piece of paper in their hands. I got the impression that one of the Gods (one of the 12 members of MBC) dictated them these questions in a hurry while awaiting for the elevator. It is sad and actually disgusting to find interrogation of a physician by an agency licensing already almost 200,000 physicians could not find one of them to conduct that meeting.

6 RE safety for the patients. I have to clarify that for 30 years as a physician who treated thousands of patient each year there was not even one case RE safety of the patient. Many of them in ICU or ER, before that case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sincerely,
Hany Assad

PS So if doctors at Medicann and other clinics are not doing hands on evaluations what the future hold for them???:kiss:

How sad for all the kids. This has been a tradition since 1954. What more will they be taking away from us.....

Return to Sender: Santa's Mail Canceled - CBS News

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(AP) Starry-eyed children writing letters to the jolly man at the North Pole this holiday season likely won't get a response from Santa Claus or his helpers.

The U.S. Postal Service is dropping a popular national program begun in 1954 in the small Alaska town of North Pole, where volunteers open and respond to thousands of letters addressed to Santa each year. Replies come with North Pole postmarks.

Last year, a postal worker in Maryland recognized an Operation Santa volunteer there as a registered sex offender. The postal worker interceded before the individual could answer a child's letter, but the Postal Service viewed the episode as a big enough scare to tighten rules in such programs nationwide.

People in North Pole are incensed by the change, likening the Postal Service to the Grinch trying to steal Christmas. The letter program is a revered holiday tradition in North Pole, where light posts are curved and striped like candy canes and streets have names such as Kris Kringle Drive and Santa Claus Lane. Volunteers in the letter program even sign the response letters as Santa's elves and helpers.

North Pole Mayor Doug Isaacson agreed that caution is necessary to protect children. But he's outraged North Pole program should be affected by a sex offender's actions on the East Coast - and he thinks it's wrong that locals just found out about the change in recent days.

"It's Grinchlike that the Postal Service never informed all the little elves before the fact," he said. "They've been working on this for how long?"

The Postal Service began restricting its policies in such programs in 2006, including requiring volunteers to show identification.

But the Maryland incident involving the sex offender prompted additional changes, even forcing the agency to briefly suspend the Operation Santa program last year in New York and Chicago.

The agency now prohibits volunteers from having access to children's family names and addresses, said spokeswoman Sue Brennan. The Postal Service instead redacts the last name and addresses on each letter and replaces the addresses with codes that match computerized addresses known only to the post office - and leaves it up to individual post offices if they want to go through the time-consuming effort to shield the information.

Anchorage-based agency spokeswoman Pamela Moody said dealing with the tighter restrictions is not feasible in Alaska.

"It's always been a good program, but we're in different times and concerned for the privacy of the information," she said.

Moody stressed that kids around the world can still send letters to Santa Claus. The Postal Service still runs the giant Operation Santa Program in which children around the world can have their letters to Santa answered, and the restrictions do not affect private organizations running their own letter efforts.

But what will change are the generically addressed letters to "Santa Claus, North Pole" that for years have been forwarded to volunteers in the Alaska town. That program will stop, unless changes are made before Christmas.

Losing the Santa-letter cache is a blow to the community of 2,100 people, who pride themselves on their Christmas ties. Huge tourist attractions here include an everything-Christmas store, Santa Claus House, and the post office, where visitors can get a hand-stamped postmark on their postcards and packages if they ask for it.

Another issue raising the hackles on some locals is separate recent change. Anchorage - 260 miles to the south - is now processing the thousands of requests for North Pole postal cancellation marks on Christmas cards and packages from outside the state. It's a job long handled by nearby Fairbanks, about 15 miles away.

Moody said with as many as 800,000 items processed last year, Fairbanks is not equipped to handle the overload. Anchorage is the only city in Alaska with the high-speed equipment necessary to do the job without delay. Moody disagreed with the mayor's belief that the process creates a false postmark.

Santa Claus House, built like a Swiss chalet and chock full of all items Christmas, sells more than 100,000 letters from Santa and one of the lures is the postmark.

Operations manager Paul Brown believes his business will be affected under changes to the volunteer Santa letter program because tens of thousands of letters are addressed to Santa Claus House, North Pole, Alaska.

Those letters will still be forwarded to volunteers but it's unclear yet if anything will be done with them. Those intercepted by the postal service will probably eventually be shredded.

Brown worries about misinterpretations of the changes, such as people believing it's no longer possible to get individual pieces of mail graced with the North Pole postmark.

ANAHEIM - Three billboards located within a block of Magnolia High school for a network of medical marijuana dispensaries will be removed and replaced by public service announcements, officials with a billboard company said today.

The billboards were erected within the past few weeks for MediCann, a San Francisco-based network of clinics aimed at providing marijuana to patients suffering from chronic illnesses.
The billboards, located near the corner of Ball Road and Gilbert Street, originally depicted a man described as a plumber who was able to return to work after suffering from back pain because he used marijuana. The ad described the man as "A Typical Stoner," and also said "Marijuana Works."

Those billboard signs were replaced last week by others that just displayed MediCann, with the company Web site and toll free phone number.

A MediCann dispensary sits about four miles away on Ball Road and Anaheim Street.

Mike Cossota, a sales manager with Lamar Advertising, the company that owns the billboards, said advertisements for MediCann should have never gone up so close to a school.

MediCann officials did not immediately return phone calls.

Cossota said his company inherited the billboards after Lamar Advertising took over Vista Media, the billboard company that originally contracted with MediCann.

"Our company policy is not to have any adult-themed billboards next to schools or churches," he said. "We are going to take them down within the next 48 hours."

Cossota said Lamar Advertising, which operates thousands of billboards across the country, has a policy against placing any advertisements for alcohol, medical marijuana, or other content not suitable for children within 1,000 feet of schools or churches.

Lamar Advertising was unaware the billboards it inherited from Vista Media for MediCann were adjacent to the school, Cossota said.

Linda Padilla, a grandparent of a student at nearby Savanna High School, said she saw the billboards while driving by and was "outraged."

"My concern was that this advertisement was so close to the school," she said. "We're trying to send a message to our children that drugs are bad, but then they see signs like these ones."

Deputy DA Admits Membership In Medical Pot Collective - San Diego News Story - KGTV San Diego



How is it that the Deputy D.A. can use MMJ legally and be a Collective memeber ? But San Diego Patients have to worry and look over there shoulders?


Stay Green!!

Pot Farm Found Behind Police Station


Police busted a sophisticated marijuana farm inside an industrial building 25 feet from the back door of the Topanga Community Los Angeles Police Station. Michael Brownlee has the video report.

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Dope of the Day http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/news/local/pot-farm-police-station-20091118


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Jesse, please retire. I know how much you love to see yourself on T.V.
but you are tiresome. Funny though how you still hate Jews, remember when you called New York "Hymietown"? Of course you were forgiven just like a certain senator from West Virginia who was a KKK member. So, calling out people on their skin color again?

Jesse Jackson: 'You can't vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man' - TheHill.com


Jesse Jackson: 'You can't vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man'

The Rev. Jesse Jackson on Wednesday night criticized Rep. Artur Davis (D-Ala.) for voting against the Democrats’ signature healthcare bill.

“We even have blacks voting against the healthcare bill,” Jackson said at a reception Wednesday night. “You can’t vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man.”


The remark stirred a murmur at the reception, held by the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) Foundation as part of a series of events revolving around the 25th anniversary of Jackson’s run for president. Several CBC members were in attendance, including Chairwoman Barbara Lee (D-Calif.), who’d introduced Jackson.


Davis, who is running for governor, is the only black member of Congress from Alabama.

He is also the only member of the CBC to have voted against the healthcare bill earlier this month.

Davis referred to Jackson’s 1988 run for president in a statement, issued through his office, that said he would not engage Jackson on his criticism.

“One of the reasons that I like and admire Rev. Jesse Jackson is that 21 years ago he inspired the idea that a black politician would not be judged simply as a black leader,” Davis’s statement said. “The best way to honor Rev. Jackson’s legacy is to decline to engage in an argument with him that begins and ends with race.”

Jackson said later that he "didn't call anybody by name and I won't."

He added that he wasn't saying that black lawmakers must vote a certain way. Instead, they should vote the interests of the people in their districts, and he said the healthcare bill would help Alabama because it's one of the poorest states in the country.

"The poorest people need healthcare protection," Jackson said. "They have the highest infant mortality and the lowest life expectancy. They're dying from lack of access."

Other members of the CBC found no fault in Jackson's words. Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) was in the audience. He called Jackson's criticism of Davis "accurate," but said he did not hear Jackson say "You can’t vote against healthcare and call yourself a black man."

"If it is an issue that disproportionately impacts black folks, race has to be considered," Cleaver said. Jackson, he added, "is expected by his constituency to call balls and strikes."

Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) called the remarks "vintage Jesse Jackson," but said Davis's vote against healthcare was consistent with a voting record more conservative than many CBC members.

"Artur Davis has a more conservative constituency," Waters said. "Since he's running for governor of Alabama, he reflects an even more conservative constituency."

Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-Texas) said each man was doing what he considered the right thing.

"People have a right to vote their constituency, and people have a right to speak their conscience," Jackson-Lee said. "Both happened."

Davis’s Democratic primary opponent, Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks, highlighted Davis’s status as the lone African-American vote against the bill.

“He was the only Black Caucus member to vote against it. I don’t get it,” Sparks said last week, according to The Associated Press. Sparks is white.

Davis said he voted against the healthcare bill because "House leadership's approach is not the best we can do." He said he preferred a version passed by the Senate Finance Committee because it reduces subsidization of the healthcare industry, taxes high-value health plans instead of wealthy people, and is more effective in getting employers to help with health coverage.

Davis has countered that Sparks’s position on healthcare has changed over time, saying he’s being “deliberately dishonest.”

The primary will be June 1. All of the GOP candidates for governor have been critical of the healthcare legislation, according to the AP.

from the LA Times:

West Hollywood's medical marijuana success story

The small city enforces a strict ordinance and eliminates the drama that plagues L.A.

By John Hoeffel
November 16, 2009


A few miles from Los Angeles City Hall, a small experiment in marijuana regulation has been underway for years. While the state's largest city passed a flawed moratorium, failed to enforce it, debated proposed rules endlessly and watched flummoxed as dispensaries multiplied, West Hollywood pressed ahead.

Confronted with its own dispensary explosion in 2005, the city surrounded by L.A. imposed a moratorium on dispensaries, clamped interim rules on the ones that were open, passed a strict ordinance and capped the number allowed at four, all within two years.

When the West Hollywood City Council updated its ordinance earlier this month, the vote was unanimous, no residents spoke in opposition and the city's dispensary operators lined up in support.

Today, in contrast, two Los Angeles council committees will hold what is sure to be a boisterously contentious hearing as they try to finish an ordinance now in its fifth draft.

In West Hollywood, city officials say, it's been more than two years since a resident has complained about a dispensary. Neighborhood watch leaders say their streets are safer because the dispensary guards are required to walk nearby blocks. School officials welcome dispensaries as neighbors. And the L.A. County Sheriff's Department, which patrols the city, says there have been no recent crimes at dispensaries and no calls from agitated neighbors.

"We've been on top of this from Day 1," said Lisa Belsanti, a senior management analyst with the city who helped draw up its rules. "There's a problem, but it's in Los Angeles, it's not in West Hollywood."

Cities with no medical marijuana regulations, including Los Angeles, San Diego and Long Beach, have seen an outcry from neighborhoods upset that dispensaries open wherever they want, often in close proximity, and attract nuisances, such as traffic, and real dangers, such as robberies.

But some cities, notably San Francisco and Oakland, have tightly regulated their dispensaries, and officials there say they have had little or no trouble with them.

Although at 1.9 square miles and about 36,000 people West Hollywood is a fraction of L.A.'s size, it offers an example of how a city that adopted rules and enforced them has largely eliminated its problems.

"We've kept them on a short leash," said City Councilman John Duran, who has been involved with medical marijuana issues for years. "Today, we have minimal complaints, and they are acting responsibly."

West Hollywood -- with its large population of gays and seniors and its pride in its progressive politics -- welcomed medical marijuana as word spread that it can help AIDS patients and glaucoma sufferers. But it too experienced a neighborhood backlash as the number of dispensaries started to climb in 2004 and 2005.

Three appeared within a block of Fountain Day School. One, the Farmacy, was around the corner. Its customers lit up in a parking lot shared with the private school, upsetting parents.

"All of a sudden they started opening up boom, boom, boom, boom, boom," said Andrew Rakos, the school's general manager. "Our parent organization came to me and said we're not happy about this. There was an immediate influx of a lot of unsavory people."

The Farmacy is run by a pharmacist, JoAnna LaForce, who has treated critically ill patients with marijuana for more than 15 years. She contacted the school's parent organization, offered tours of her store, hired security and banned smoking in the parking lot. The Farmacy, like the other dispensaries, belongs to the Chamber of Commerce and its manager serves on a community advisory board.

"We're just part of the community, a part of the neighborhood. They don't see us as a risk," said LaForce, who has watched the situation in Los Angeles with dismay. She also has Farmacy dispensaries in Venice and Westwood that followed the rules to operate under the city's moratorium.

Rakos is now one of the Farmacy's most valuable supporters. Because it was within 500 feet of the school, the city wanted the Farmacy to move by the end of the year. But Rakos asked the City Council to make an exception, and it did. "We felt that it was important for the city to know that there are some businesses that are not only respectful, but listened to the needs of the community," he said.

In Los Angeles, a controversial draft ordinance has ping-ponged between the council and the city attorney's office. Neighborhood activists and dispensary operators have been largely excluded, except to speak at public hearings. West Hollywood officials, however, worked closely with residents, dispensary owners and the Sheriff's Department.

The West Hollywood ordinance restricts where dispensaries can open, sets security requirements, limits hours and bans on-site consumption. It goes further than the proposed Los Angeles ordinance to ensure that dispensaries are responsible neighbors.

The dispensaries must provide nearby residents with the name and phone number of a contact person. To discourage robberies, dispensaries must deposit each day's cash. Security guards have to patrol a two-block radius to prevent loitering and smoking, and guards must be unarmed. "We don't want the wild, wild West shootouts over marijuana and cash," Duran said.

The city also requires the dispensary operators to meet regularly with city officials to discuss problems. Those meetings are now very short. "We go in there for 10 minutes," LaForce said, "and they say -- the sheriffs in there -- any problems? No. Any concerns? No."

City officials were alarmed recently when Los Angeles County Dist. Atty. Steve Cooley said he believed most dispensaries were illegal and threatened to prosecute them. But Sheriff Lee Baca, who has advised cities to ban dispensaries, said he considers West Hollywood a model and even suggested Los Angeles adopt the same ordinance.

Baca said his deputies work closely with the city's dispensaries. "I know they're transparent, and I think the key is that our people can go in there at any time and look at their documentation," he said. "What we're interested in is organizations that try to blend commercial sales with medical sales. That's clearly illegal."

West Hollywood has four approved dispensaries, all on busy Santa Monica Boulevard.

Don Duncan, the area's most visible medical marijuana advocate as the California director for Americans for Safe Access, runs the unflashy Los Angeles Patients & Caregivers Group. A security guard is always on the sidewalk in front of the cannabis-green storefront.

"We haven't had a complaint in three years," Duncan said.

The Farmacy, unlike most outlets, leaves its door open, inviting passersby to check out its surf-and-Buddha-influenced vibe. Alternative Herbal Health Services, across the street, is more discreet, with a colorful sign much like those found at natural food stores.

Near the west end of town is the Zen Healing Collective, with an enormous neon cannabis leaf in the window.

A fifth dispensary, the Sunset Super Shop, which city officials want to shut down, occupies a metaphorical sweet spot on the Sunset Strip between the Hustler Hollywood boutique (sex) and the Whisky a Go Go (rock 'n' roll).

One issue still troubles some West Hollywood officials: that people exploit the state's medical marijuana laws to buy pot simply to get high or to resell. "There are a lot of people that hang around that look to us as undesirables, but we don't really get many complaints from the community," said sheriff's Lt. Dave Smith.

Duran believes the downside does not outweigh the benefit of giving truly sick people safe access to marijuana and creating a system that allows the city to monitor sales.

"We're the home of the Sunset Strip," he said. "We've had people smoking marijuana on Sunset since 1920. That's not going to change."


West Hollywood's medical marijuana success story -- latimes.com

Dems are finally admiting that Obama's policies and his economic team
have been helping Wall Street at the exspense of the American people.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/1 ... 63093.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/1 ... 62658.html

It's not Dems vs. Repubs, it's Wall Street vs the american people, and
it's been clear from day 1 which side Obama is on, and it's not
the American people.

WTF? The SEIU union needs a dome check.
They want to go after a scout who did a project for his Eagle Scout Badge.

Stupid, what do you think?

Pennsylvania Union Leader Criticized for Threatening Legal Action Over Boy Scout's Volunteerism

Wednesday, November 18, 2009

Diane Macedo



Aspiring Eagle Scout Kevin Anderson, 17, says he cleared a walking path in an east Allentown, Pa. park so people could enjoy walking along the river.


A Pennsylvania union leader has come under fire after threatening legal action against the city of Allentown for allowing a Boy Scout to voluntarily clear a walking path in a local park.

Nick Balzano, president of the Service Employees International Union's Allentown chapter, said last week that the union might file a grievance against the city for allowing 17-year-old Kevin Anderson to clear the hiking trail, instead of paying some of the 39 recently laid-off SEIU members to do the work.

Balzano's office did not return messages left by FoxNews.com, but the Morning Call quoted him as telling the city council that the union would be "looking into the Cub Scout or Boy Scout who did the trails … There's to be no volunteers."

SEIU spokesman Matt Nerzig called Balzano's comments "completely unauthorized and insensitive" and said the union was "not at all" considering a grievance in this case.

"Not sure if it was out of context or just a bad moment, but we've got no intention of doing anything like that," Nerzig told FoxNews.com. "Not sure where he got the idea but he certainly doesn't have the authority to do so."


Anderson, a member of Boy Scouts Troop 301 of Center Valley, spent more than 200 hours creating the 1000-foot path in Kimmets Lock Park along with fellow scouts, friends and parents.

The junior at Southern Lehigh High School said he took on the project in an effort to earn an Eagle Scout badge and allow others to walk along the river while avoiding the busy road nearby.

In the process, he said, he and his team also transformed what was once a run-down section of the park into something residents and visitors can enjoy.

"The volunteers and I removed trash, many old tires and recyclables from this former illegal dump-site," Anderson told FoxNews.com.

"My trail will become a part of the 165-mile Delaware and Lehigh (D&L) Heritage corridor," he added.

Allentown Mayor Ed Pawlowski said Anderson's work was a "great service to the community."

"We would hope that the well-intentioned efforts of an Eagle Scout candidate would not be challenged by the union," he told the Morning Call.

In a letter written Tuesday to Balzano, U.S. Rep. Charlie Dent of Pennsylvania said the union official owes the teen an apology.

"I am astounded, that you would threaten to file a grievance against the City of Allentown because the administration wisely chooses to make volunteer opportunities available," Dent said. "Especially when this type of frivolous grievance could add to the tax burden of the citizens."

"An apology both to the scout involved and to the public would be appropriate," he added.

The SEIU has been the only Allentown union to suffer layoffs amid the ongoing economic crisis.

Anderson's troop leader Tony Martocci declined to comment for this story.


Gee, what next, go after volunteers for Habitat for Humanity?

The week started off with a bang, as Americans for Safe Access (ASA) Chief Counsel Joe Elford threatened to file a lawsuit against Los Angeles if the city banned medical marijuana “sales.” The threat was in response to public statements made by City Attorney Carmen Trutanich that over-the-counter sales of medical marijuana are illegal under [...]


Read the rest of this article on Americans for Safe Access Website by clicking here.

Man could get life in pot bust | clarionledger.com | The Clarion-Ledger


Heather Civil • heather.civil@clarionledger.com • October 31, 2009

A 33-year-old Jackson man accused of growing marijuana in his apartment could get up to life in prison if convicted.

In the case of Ronald Christopher Sekul, the Mississippi Bureau of Narcotics intends to ask prosecutors to apply a law called the "kingpin" statute, MBN Director Marshall Fisher said.

The statute can be applied to Sekul's case because he allegedly had a drug operation for longer than 12 consecutive months and had more than 10 pounds of marijuana, Fisher said.

Sekul was arrested Wednesday for allegedly growing 4-foot marijuana plants in the back bedroom of the fourplex he lives in at 1510 Myrtle St., according to MBN.

He is out of jail on $50,000 bond.

"It was a pretty sophisticated operation," Fisher said.

Sekul is charged with manufacture of marijuana and possession with intent to distribute and possession of two handguns and an assault rifle, Fisher said.

Authorities found 51 marijuana plants growing under florescent lights with a system set up to keep humidity levels optimal for growing in the room, Fisher said.

The plants could have produced 10 pounds of processed marijuana with an estimated $50,000 street value.

Sekul also was allegedly in possession of eight pounds of processed marijuana.

Agents seized growing materials usually seen in indoor marijuana operations, a .40-caliber handgun, a .22-caliber handgun and a .223-caliber semi-automatic rifle.

Investigators from the Jackson Enforcement Team were told about Sekul's alleged operation by an anonymous tipster, Fisher said.

JET, formed in August 2008, is funded by part of a $3.5 million federal grant.

"It's valuable to have different levels of expertise (with JET)," Jackson Police Department Assistant Police Chief Lee Vance said. "I think JET is a successful venture."

Sekul is the second Jackson person arrested in as many weeks with an alleged indoor marijuana-growing operation.

Fisher said indoor growing operations might be on the increase, but only slightly.

"We've seen a steady downward trend on outdoor growing over the years," he said.

On Sept. 18, the home of Zachary Alexander, 33, at 378 Naples Road, was raided and plants with an estimated street value of $325,000 were seized.

He is charged with manufacture and felony possession of marijuana. He is out on $5,000 bond.

washingtonpost.com



By Steve Hendrix
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, November 16, 2009

Smoking pot isn't what it used to be for Joe Lee, a 62-year-old vintage-record dealer in Rockville.
Back in the late 1960s, as an art student in Baltimore, he kept his landlord in a constant state of suspicion, with clouds of marijuana smoke poorly masked by clouds of incense.

These days, after four decades of regular use, cannabis is a smaller deal. Lee takes a few hits every other day or so, when he wants to listen to music or laugh with a few friends on the porch. And he's happy to talk about it.

"There's gotten to be greater tolerance, that's for sure," said Lee, the son of one-time acting Maryland governor Blair Lee III. "I know literally hundreds of people my age who smoke. They are upright citizens, good parents who are holding down jobs. You take two or three puffs, and you're good to go. I'm not a Rastafarian; I don't treat this as some holy sacrament. But pot is fun."

A federal survey of Americans' drug use shows that Lee and his friends are not the only baby boomers approaching the age of retirement much as they departed the Age of Aquarius -- with an occasional case of the munchies. The government's most recent survey showed that the share of marijuana users ages 50 to 59 increased from 5.1 percent in 2002 to almost 10 percent in 2007.

Some of those users are empty-nesters, returning to the drug decades after their pot habits gave way to raising children and building careers. Others, like Lee, have kept using pot all along, researchers said.

"We're concerned by the public health impact of this," said Peter Delany, who heads the office in the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration that conducts the survey. Marijuana could present special problems for older users, he said, including unknown interactions with prescription drugs. "Doctors need to be more sensitive to it," he said. "They may ask older patients about alcohol now but not think to ask about illicit drug use."

But some older marijuana users say they are living evidence that smoking pot does not preclude a normal life, and more older smokers seem more comfortable than at any point since their teen years with going public -- a tribute, they say, to a big boost in public tolerance of marijuana use.

Mainstreaming marijuana

In parts of California, licensed medical marijuana dispensaries have become as common as In-N-Out Burger stands. At least 13 other states allow some form of pot use for medicinal purposes, and the Obama administration announced last month that federal prosecutors would no longer go after medical users in those states, a policy shift that activists hailed as a watershed.

Last week, in a reversal, the American Medical Association called for a review of marijuana's status as a Schedule 1 hard drug alongside LSD and PCP and for more study of its medicinal potential.

In May, California's Republican governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, said it was "time for a debate" on the merits of legalizing and taxing the drug. Nationally, support for legalization has jumped to its highest level in 40 years, up in a Gallup poll from 31 percent in 2000 to 44 percent last month.

In much of American pop culture, the taboo against smoking pot lies largely in ashes -- in ubiquitous references in hip-hop music and in TV programs such as Showtime's "Weeds." Even iconic potheads Cheech Marin and Tommy Chong are in vogue again, back on the road with their 22-city "Light Up America" comedy tour.

All of which adds up to what some commentators see as marijuana's steady march into the mainstream. Conservative pundit George Will recently declared the drug "essentially legalized" in California and predicted that the rest of the nation would follow suit.

That shift in atmosphere has encouraged more older users to take their pot habits public.

"I don't think more people in their 50s are smoking marijuana. I think we are just more comfortable talking about it," said Rick Steves, who writes travel guidebooks and hosts a public TV series on travel. At 54, the clean-cut guru of mass-market European tourism has begun to present himself as the hard-working, successful face of the longtime smoker.

"Even my pastor knows I smoke pot," said Steves, who was recently named Lutheran activist of the year for his work on international poverty relief.

"It's just not that big a deal anymore. It's another recreational drug, like alcohol."

For Steves, the starkest sign of pot's growing acceptance is the annual Hempfest, which draws tens of thousands of marijuana enthusiasts each summer to a park in his home town of Seattle. But he said he has detected a change in more straitlaced cities, including the District, which he visited last week to see his daughter at Georgetown University.

"When I stepped out of my daughter's apartment, a couple of guys were passing a bong on the front stoop," Steves said. "They weren't self-conscious at all."

Although young users generally go to some lengths to keep their pot use under wraps, those of a certain age -- especially those not in danger of being kicked out of school or subjected to workplace drug tests -- seem more likely to talk about their usage.

"It seems the stereotype of the marijuana user as a goofy teenage boy has begun to change," said Shelby Sadler, 48, a freelance editor from Rockville. She described a wide circle of professional friends in the Washington area, many of them women, who use the drug socially. "They are less inclined to hide it now. The kids are gone, and they no longer have to worry about losing their jobs because they're the ones doing the hiring."

Sadler, who was journalist Hunter S. Thompson's longtime editor and works on books with historian Douglas Brinkley, said she smokes a few times a month, usually with friends. The only difference now, compared with when she started at Cornell University, is the clothing.

"Then, it was Crazy Horse crewneck sweaters and oxford shirts," said Sadler, who is editing a history of pot by Keith Stroup, founder of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws. "Now I dress like Hillary Clinton."

Police, others disagree

Drug counselors bemoan the softening views on marijuana, saying that it complicates their efforts to steer addicts away from illicit substances.

"It's more of a struggle for us when the parents just see heroin or cocaine as the dangerous drugs and sort of turn their heads with marijuana," said Carol Porto, who runs an inpatient drug treatment center in Calvert County.

Most Washington area police departments enforce the laws that make marijuana illegal, officials said. A Montgomery County police spokesman would not comment other than to say that the department has seen no spike in marijuana use by older residents and is not targeting those users.

One older smoker who doesn't mind outing herself is Florence Siegel, an 88-year-old artist from New York who has been smoking regularly since her early 50s. That's when the family's pediatrician suggested they try marijuana together to see "what the kids were so excited about." The pediatrician didn't feel a thing. Siegel said she never stopped.

Now her routine is to sit in her favorite chair each evening, listen to Bach and take a few hits from one of her many pipes. Marijuana boosts her creativity and helps with joint pain that has come with aging, she said.

Siegel smokes occasionally with her daughter Loren Siegel, 64, a recently retired lawyer. But does her 93-year-old husband ever join her?

"Oh, no," she said. "Well, only very rarely."

Ex-U.S. attorney: Time to change pot laws

Ex-U.S. attorney: Time to change pot laws

Last updated November 16, 2009 11:32 p.m. PT
By LEVI PULKKINEN
SEATTLEPI.COM STAFF

Three years ago, former U.S. Attorney John McKay was somewhere near the front lines of the nation's drug war.

Directing federal prosecutions in Western Washington before he was fired in 2006 by the administration that appointed him, McKay's office sent marijuana smugglers and farmers to prison on decade-long terms. It indicted a loudmouth Canadian pro-pot activist for selling cannabis seeds by mail order.


So the crowd at an Edmonds auditorium could have been forgiven its surprise on Monday when McKay stood on stage with travel author and decriminalization advocate Rick Steves and declared that, of course, he is "against stupid laws."

"I think there has to be a shift in the paradigm," said McKay, now a professor at Seattle University. "The correct policy change would be a top-to-bottom review of the nation's drug laws."

McKay joined a panel as part of an effort by Steves and the American Civil Liberties Union to, in their view, return rationality to discussions about the nation's drug laws. They were joined there by Egil "Bud" Krogh, a former official in the Nixon White House who gained notoriety during the Watergate scandal, and state Rep. Mary Helen Roberts, an Edmonds Democrat who joked Monday about being dubbed by her colleagues the "Marijuana Queen of Northwest Washington" for her efforts on medical marijuana law reform.

While the panelists did not agree on all points, each said they see the need for substantive change in the way marijuana is regulated and offenders are punished. They also each spoke about the fears, or lack of courage, of elected officials in addressing issues surrounding the drug.

Steves and the ACLU launched the initiative last year partly as a response to that fear. The effort, built around an infomercial "Marijuana: It's Time for a Conversation," is aimed at encouraging citizens to discuss the issue openly.

"This is an issue that's scary for people," Steves said. "I have friends who oppose what I do on this issue because they're worried about their kids. What they don't understand is that so are we."

Addressing the audience, a group mixed in age and outward appearance, Roberts argued that the law as it stands takes an unjust toll on minority communities. In essence, she said, it leaves law enforcement agencies to pursue people who are easiest to catch while their efforts could be more productively spent elsewhere.

At the same time, she said, lawmakers -- even those who believe the laws to be unjust with regard to marijuana -- are afraid of being branded soft on crime.

"As a community and a society, we're afraid of crime," Roberts said. "And if what you're doing is being referred to as 'soft on crime,' even without details, legislators respond negatively to it."

Roberts also said the Legislature must revisit the state's medical marijuana law, which, in her view, fails to adequately protect patients.

McKay, though, said such changes fail to address the larger problems with marijuana laws in the country.

Even as the Obama administration has adopted medical marijuana rules similar to those he advocated while U.S. Attorney -- specifically, that federal agents not interfere with state medical marijuana regulations -- McKay said that simply having federal agencies ignore the laws enacted by Congress does not go far enough.

"Federal law makes the possession of any amount of marijuana a crime," McKay said. "So, even if you've got a certificate from your doctor, a federal officer could arrest you. That's just bad policy."

McKay faulted Congress for failing to take initiative on the issue. It is not the place of federal prosecutors or law officers to make policy, he said, nor should the White House go it alone.

In the end, he argued, marijuana should not be lumped in with cocaine, methamphetamine and heroin as part of the war on drugs. Marijuana law, McKay said, "should look a lot more like alcohol (regulations) and a lot less like cocaine and methamphetamine (laws)."

In Redding we are fighting to keep our collectives open as well ( i watched the la feed this morning, good luck guys) within the past few months redding and red bluff california have been attempting to make there own laws regarding marijuana. Going so far as to propose only allowing us access to one club within the county and making clones illegal to sell in a collective. please take a little time and read a few articles about our situation.


redding.com and redbluffdailynews.com are our too newspaper sites and news sources for the area.

today: Redding police prepare to inspect marijuana collectives Redding Record Searchlight

redding council approves tougher regulations: Redding council approves tougher medical marijuana regulations Redding Record Searchlight

another: Redding council will consider tough new medical pot ordinance Redding Record Searchlight

and for red bluff:

puts pot ban on hold: Red Bluff puts pot ban on hold - Red Bluff Daily News Online

collective forced to vacate: Mother Earth Medicine collective vacated - Red Bluff Daily News Online

theres tons more articles in these papers if you wish to browse thru them, and thank you for your time.

mike. :hippie:

I have a Problem seeing one of the tests :oops:

Earlier this month, the New Mexico Department of Health issued its long overdue regulations for state-licensed, nonprofit medical marijuana providers, making it the first state to do so. Advocates say the new rules will allow for expanded access to medical marijuana for qualified patients. Not everyone is happy.

The process was long and involved, with numerous state agencies and law enforcement entities, as well as patients and advocates all trying to ensure that their interests and concerns were met. Originally mandated to be done by October 2007, the regulations were only finalized this month, with the Department of Health making late revisions based on public comments to earlier versions.

Under the newly promulgated regulations, nonprofit providers can grow no more than 95 plants, including both mature plants and seedlings, and can possess an amount of medical marijuana “that reflects current qualified patient needs.” The nonprofits must sell medicine at constant unit prices and without volume discounts.

In order to apply for provider status, the nonprofits must provide copies of their articles of incorporation and bylaws, a list of all people involved in operating the facility, a list of all people who have a 5% or greater ownership in the facility, and have a board of directors that includes at least one health care professional and three qualified New Mexico medical marijuana patients. All of these people must also undergo a criminal background check.

But wait, there’s more. As the regulations state:

All applicants must develop, implement and maintain on the premises policies and procedures relating to the medical cannabis program. At a minimum, the policies and procedures will include the following criteria:

* Distribution criteria for qualified patients or caregivers appropriate for medical cannabis services.
* Distribution criteria must include a clear identifiable photocopy of each registry identification card of a qualified patient and the patient’s caregiver (if applicable) who are served by the nonprofit.
* Policies and procedures relating to an alcohol and drug free workplace program.
* A job description or employment contract developed for all employees, which includes duties, authority, responsibilities, qualifications and supervision.
* A personnel record for each employee that includes an application for employment and a record of any disciplinary action taken.
* On-site training curriculum, or enter into contractual relationships with outside resources capable of meeting employee training needs, which includes but is not limited to:
a) Professional conduct, ethics and patient confidentiality.
b) Informational developments in the field of medical cannabis.
* Training in security measures and specific instructions on how to respond to an emergency, including robbery or a violent accident.
* All nonprofits will prepare training documentation for each employee and have employees sign a statement indicating the date, time and place the employee received training and topics discussed, to include the name and title of presenters. The nonprofit will maintain documentation of an employee’s training for at least six (6) months after termination of employment.

The new regulations also require patients who are growing their own to submit an application. Patients can grow up to four flowering plants and 12 seedlings. They can also possess up to six ounces of usable marijuana.

“We have worked hard to create a medical cannabis program that will be viable and meet the needs of patients in New Mexico,” said Health Secretary Dr. Alfredo Vigil when the regulations were announced. “Now patients can get medical cannabis for their chronic health conditions in a way that is safe and legal under state law.”

“I think the regulations will serve the patients of New Mexico well,” said Melissa Milam, administrator of the Medical Cannabis Program in the state Department of Health. “I’m really happy that we are moving forward; I think that’s better than to continue having this drawn-out debate over the regulations.”

The first application by a nonprofit organization was accepted last week, said Milam. “We expect several more soon,” she added. One hold-up, she said, was the requirement that all members of the nonprofit’s board of directors pass a background check. “We’re asking them to do that through the state Department of Public Safety, and those take about two weeks to process,” Milam said.

Advocates are hoping the new regulations are a first step only. “We were able to get a lot of the changes we wanted into the regulations, so we’re glad that the governor’s office was receptive, but we didn’t get everything we wanted,” said Reena Szczepanski, head of the Drug Policy Alliance New Mexico office, which worked closely with Gov. Richardson for years to push medical marijuana through the legislature. “There will be room in the future to look at things like the regulations on nonprofits and plant limits.”

That’s because the regulations call for an annual evaluation report, Sczcepanski said. “We were able to get that yearly evaluation in there, and that will give us a chance to look at revisions in the future in light of how well the program is meeting the needs of patients. We also wanted state-run providers and didn’t get that. That’s another thing we can look at in coming years,” she said.

Some advocates wish the department had gotten it right the first time around. Bernie Ellis, MA, MPH, an epidemiologist with more than 20 years experience in substance abuse-related research and administration, is one of them. Ellis has worked for medical marijuana in New Mexico for years, dating back to the days of Gov. Gary Johnson. Ellis also brings with him the bitter experience of a federal medical marijuana prosecution in Tennessee where he currently resides. He submitted detailed recommendations on the regulations during the public comment period last year, which interested readers can obtain by contacting him via the link above.

“The biggest frustration that I share with other medical marijuana activists nationally is that the New Mexico legislation could have been the gold standard for administering medical cannabis programs, but instead it has turned out to be just one more ’same old-same old’ program with unrealistically low limits on the amount of cannabis patients can possess and providers can grow,” said Ellis. “Limiting patients to no more than six ounces of medicine means that patients who grow outdoors will face arrest for possessing any more cannabis than their first six weeks supply. Limiting providers to 95 plants, including those in vegetative growth, means the producers will be able to produce medicine for no more than six patients apiece.”

According to Ellis, there are at least 46,000 New Mexicans whose medical conditions currently make them eligible for the state’s program, and the state is now considering adding more qualifying conditions. “With these regulations, we are talking about the potential need to license about 7,500 producers (or more) to serve a population like that, instead of licensing a smaller number of producers who could produce at a more realistic level,” he said.

Ellis had argued for much larger state-licensed medicinal grows. “I have done preliminary cost and staffing estimates for providers growing an acre of cannabis, which would serve several hundred patients,” he said. “There is no state better than New Mexico to do this right. The population there has centuries of medicinal use of this substance, the cultural climate is very favorable for success, and Gov. Richardson put a considerable amount of his own political capital to work to get this passed. But now, after a fifteen month delay releasing the program regulations, we have a program with unrealistically low limits on patients and providers, which will allow patents to be ‘legal’ only a few months of the year.”

“The federal government doesn’t seem to get involved with less than 99 plants or 99 pounds; that’s where that number comes from,” said Milam. “It is a measure to protect providers.”

More importantly, said Milam, the patients seem satisfied. “No patients have complained to me about the plant limits,” she said. “If they don’t have a problem with it, I don’t either.”

The regulations contain a safety valve for patients, Sczcepanski noted. “If a need is indicated by their medical provider, patients can apply to possess amounts over the limit,” she pointed out.

The limits on providers also have another negative consequence, Ellis argued. “With those sorts of limits, producers will not have the ability to reduce the price for medical cannabis below the current illicit price, which would defeat the goals of a program like New Mexico’s,” he said. “If you tell a nonprofit it is limited to 95 plants and it has to set up an elaborate security system and staff the effort commensurate with the security and horticultural needs, I don’t see how they will be able to reduce the market price doing that. A larger, properly staffed facility could bring those prices down. Right now, the few providers I’ve talked to in New Mexico say they’re just buying cannabis for patients from the illegal market and paying $200-$500 an ounce for it. I think if it were done right, we could get the cost down to around $50 an ounce.”

“We’re a very poor state, and many of the patients are on Medicaid or disability,” said Milam. “California may have dispensaries everywhere, but they’re charging black market prices. Our patients can’t afford to pay $400 an ounce on top of their other medications. We’re trying to set it up so marijuana is an affordable medication,” she said, adding that she was sure licensed growers could beat black market prices.

“The state of New Mexico said it wanted to make cannabis available on demand to patients,” Ellis continued, “but the way they’re treating medical marijuana patients is analogous to telling a patient with a major infection that she needs penicillin immediately, and then handing her a loaf of bread and instructions on growing her own antibiotics. If a cancer patient has to undergo chemotherapy soon after diagnosis, he needs access to medical cannabis then, not five to seven months down the road when his first harvest might be ready.”

Milam didn’t disagree. “I’ve had doctors call me saying their patient needed medical marijuana on an emergency basis, and I have had to tell them to tell their patients to go find it themselves. This is a prime example of why the federal government needs to get marijuana rescheduled as Schedule II. The patients need to be able to go to the pharmacy and pick it up when they need it.”

Despite his litany of criticisms of the new regulations, Ellis took pains to emphasize he supports the New Mexico medical marijuana program. “I am a proponent of the New Mexico approach as outlined in their legislation, but an opponent of the current regulations. Martin Luther King once said he would not have had the success he did in the civil rights arena without [black radical] Stokely Carmichael and others agitating for change. I’m trying to be Stokely Carmichael on this. If we don’t watch out, they can incrementalize us, and too many patients, to death.”

There are currently 207 patients registered with the New Mexico Department of Health. Now, they will soon have the opportunity to procure their medicine through the nonprofits — or at least a few months after one actually gets up and running. In addition to the one application already in process, said Milam, at least two more are going through the criminal background check requirement and should be applying soon.

Whether and how well the new regulations will serve the needs of patients remains to be seen. “We will be monitoring the implementation, and we’ve been doing that through this whole process,” said Sczcepanski. “As these nonprofits are going forward, we will be watching to see if they are approved and if not, why not, and making sure the regs are being followed.”

Link: Feature: New Mexico Issues Regulations for Nonprofit Medical Marijuana Grows | Stop the Drug War (DRCNet)
Source: StoptheDrugWar.org

The Ventura City Council indicated this week that it’s willing to take a serious look at allowing medical marijuana collectives to operate legally in the city.

Medical marijuana patients hailed the decision, but top city and police officials cautioned that pot clubs could pose enforcement and regulatory challenges and bring increased crime.

After a long discussion and impassioned public input, the City Council voted unanimously Monday night to enact a yearlong moratorium on medical pot operations as it studies how to craft language allowing nonprofit collectives, which typically are operated by medical marijuana users and focused on patient care.

Pot dispensaries, on the other hand, are often run like for-profit stores and should not be considered, said Councilman Ed Summers, who made the motion.

“I really believe there are valid medical uses,” said Summers, who favored a yearlong ban to allow further study despite some people’s concerns that such a ban would send the wrong message.

Los Angeles has been overwhelmed with dispensaries capitalizing on loopholes because the city “didn’t do it right” when it drafted its rules, Summers said. Ventura’s temporary ban, he said, would “start the clock ticking while the city develops the right rules.”

No city or unincorporated area in Ventura County currently allows medical marijuana operations. Some cities, including Moorpark, Oxnard and Thousand Oaks, have adopted temporary moratoriums. Camarillo just extended its ban. Simi Valley enacted a permanent one.

The Oxnard City Council explored allowing dispensaries when it enacted a moratorium in November 2005 but later backed down because of unresolved conflicts between state and federal law.

Dozens of medicinal marijuana patients and supporters filled Ventura City Hall on Monday, urging the council to give them a fair shake.

Although their comments were limited to two minutes, patients shared stories of how medical pot has helped them cope with pain and lead productive lives. They complained about how they have to drive to Santa Barbara, Malibu or the San Fernando Valley to buy their medicine.

Backers, stressing the medical benefits and how legal outlets could provide a potential financial windfall for the city, urged the council to show compassion and create a regulated, taxed program for nonprofit marijuana collectives under Proposition 215, the Compassionate Use Act of 1996. The act permits patients to legally use medicinal marijuana in California.

Attorneys who specialize in medical marijuana laws volunteered to help the city devise rules.

“It can be done, it should be done, it needs to be done,” said Duke Smith, a longtime patient, former Los Angeles pot club operator and founder of Citizens for Safe Access, an advocacy group.

Although Mayor Christy Weir and Councilman Jim Monahan said they preferred a permanent ban on any form of pot outlet, both ultimately supported the moratorium and potential legalization process, which would have to return to the council for adoption by a majority vote.

Afterward, the mayor said pot clubs would be a “disservice” to the community and Police Department. “I’m usually in favor of shopping locally, but these establishments would do more harm than good in our community,” she said.

Council members Brian Brennan, Carl Morehouse and Neal Andrews disagreed, voicing support for the careful crafting of new regulations. It was time the city “treat the issue with the dignity and respect it deserves,” said Brennan.

Recent polling shows more than half of Californians support legalizing and taxing marijuana, and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder pledged in March to no longer take action against medical marijuana dispensaries if they comply with state and local laws.

Ventura City Manager Rick Cole expressed concerns about how the city would enforce new rules and warned that pot outlets, even ones run by well-intentioned owners, could cause complaints from neighbors and increased crime.

Police Chief Pat Miller told the council he didn’t have the resources to regulate or monitor a new program and that other communities have experienced problems with such clubs. “Any time you have a lot of money involved, you have a lot of people coming out the woodwork to make it and take it,” he said.

The California Police Chiefs Association has said that marijuana clubs across the state are little more than fronts for drug dealers.

Prosecutor Gregory Brose of the Ventura County District Attorney’s Office urged the city to develop rules to block dispensaries, which, he said, were illegal.

Pot patients agreed. Instead, they pointed to the four nonprofit collectives in Oakland that are operating legally and with city permits — and cited a new tax on them supported overwhelmingly last week by Oakland voters to help the cash-strapped city. They argued Ventura could charge higher licensing fees to pay for increased city and police oversight, require on-site security, and mandate that the clubs be far away from schools and homes.

After the council decision, some patients said they were so accustomed to rejection that they were unsure whether to believe Ventura was serious about creating a legal path, particularly with the mayor’s opposition. Others were encouraged, giving each other high-fives and hugs.

“I hope tonight’s vote was a serious and meaningful step to providing Venturans with lawful and safe access to medical marijuana,” said Jay Leiderman, a local criminal attorney who volunteered his services to the city. “One year is a long time to freeze an issue and study it, and I hope all the positives from tonight’s meeting don’t die a slow death in bureaucratic committee.”

Councilman Andrews, who worked in the healthcare industry for 35 years, said state law encourages local governments to help make distribution of medical marijuana safe and affordable for seriously ill patients.

“It’s time we take that direction, embrace it and find the right solution for our community,” he said.

Source: Ventura County Star (CA)
Copyright: 2009 The E.W. Scripps Co.
Contact: letters@venturacountystar.com
Website: Ventura County Star: Local Ventura, California News Delivered Throughout the Day.

Rejecting Advice to Ban Sales, L.A. City Concil Panels Endorse Patient’s Cash Contributions.

Two Los Angeles City Council committees rejected the advice of the city attorney and voted Monday to approve an ordinance that allows marijuana dispensaries to continue to sell the drug to people with a doctor’s recommendation.

The city attorney’s office has maintained for a year and a half that Los Angeles has no choice but to ban sales because state law and court decisions are clear that collectives can only cultivate marijuana. That opinion had stalled the council’s deliberations because dispensary operators insisted it would force them to close.

Four hours into a raucous hearing, frustrated council members decided to replace the provision with one that authorizes cash contributions as long as they comply with state law, which prohibits collectives from making a profit.

“When can we finally stop the merry-go-round?” said Councilman Dennis Zine, who urged his colleagues to discard the city attorney’s version. “We’re going to come back with another version and another version, and it’s going to be 2010, and then 2011 and 2015, and we’ll be dead by then and we won’t accomplish anything.”

The decision broke the major deadlock on the contentious issue. The planning and Public Safety committees sent the draft ordinance to the full council, which is likely to consider it Wednesday.

“We need something on the books now. There is no reason why we should delay,” said Councilman Ed Reyes, who has overseen the council’s effort to write an ordinance.

Don Duncan, a Los Angeles resident who is the California director of Americans for Safe Access, said he believed the decision would resolve one of the last obstacles. “It sounded like they were going to let a patient walk in and reimburse a collective for their medicine. We can live with that,” he said.

The council’s action came after a judge ruled last month that the city’s 2007 moratorium on new dispensaries was illegally extended, which essentially left the city with no rules that it could rely on to shut down the hundreds of stores that have opened in the last two years.

Some council members responded favorably to the city attorney’s suggestion to consider capping the number of dispensaries. Councilman Jose Huizar proposed a cap of 70, allowing two in each of the 35 community plan areas.

“Hopefully, that will allow us to control for the over-concentration,” he said.

Almost 400 people crowded into the main council chamber and about 70 spoke, most testifying passionately about the medical value of marijuana and the role dispensaries play. If the council members decide to ban sales, said Dege Coutee, who runs the Patient Advocacy Network, “You will create a black market overnight. You will turn good citizens into criminals overnight. And you will get the city involved in costly litigation for years to come.”

About a half-dozen neighborhood activists spoke. Their complaints about vandalism, noise, loitering and dispensary operators with criminal backgrounds drew thundering boos and persistent catcalls from medical marijuana supporters.

“This has become a public safety nightmare,” said Michael Larsen, the public safety director for the Eagle Rock Neighborhood Council. James O’Sullivan, the president of the Miracle Mile Residential Assn., advised: “Do the right thing. Protect your community.”

A vote for a sales ban would take Los Angeles into uncharted legal territory. Two organizations, Americans for Safe Access and the Union of Medical Marijuana Patients, have threatened to sue the city if the council adopts the provision.

Throughout the hearing, William Carter, the chief deputy city attorney, cited state law and court decisions and insisted they do not allow collectives to sell marijuana.

Several council members pointed out that West Hollywood has an ordinance that allows sales.

“There are other cities throughout the state that may not be complying with state law as we see it,” Carter said.

Reyes, who expressed exasperation with the city attorney’s office, said, “I think they are very, very narrow in that they’re taking their prosecutorial perspective.”

Zine urged the council to interpret state law in a way that would not disrupt how dispensaries now operate.

“Why don’t we push the envelope to the edge and see what we can do?” he said.

After the vote, David Berger, a special assistant to City Atty. Carmen Trutanich, said the council had the right to decide whether to accept the office’s legal advice. “Our duty is to advise them on what the law allows for, not to go on a whim,” he said. “They decided to go a different way.”

Source: Los Angeles Times (CA)
Copyright: 2009 Los Angeles Times
Website: Los Angeles Times - California, L.A., Entertainment and World news - latimes.com

The United States' first-ever Cannabis Café opened in Portland, Oregon last Friday, November 13, at 4:20 p.m. The concept behind the cafe, located at 700 N.E. Dekum St., is to serve as a catalyst for the normalization of marijuana as a medicine and thus the acceptance of users in the societal sphere.

The only people permitted in the Cannabis Cafe are those licensed to smoke who also hold membership in the lobbying group Oregon NORML. Patrons can bring their own weed or smoke "donated marijuana." This is because Oregon law states that medical marijuana may not be sold.

The café, formerly Cafe Rumpspankers coffee house, functions by way of a loophole in Oregon law allowing people to smoke weed as long as they aren't in view of the general public. So if you by any chance are an Oregon resident who just so happens to have your holds an official medical marijuana card as well you can head on down the the newly opened Cannabis Café.

Oregon's executive director of NORML, Madeline Martinez, said, "[t]his club represents personal freedom, finally, for our members. [...] Our plans go beyond serving food and marijuana, we hope to have classes, seminars, even a Cannabis Community College, based here to help people learn about growing and other uses for cannabis."

What do you think? Should the State's government shut down the café or just leave it alone and let the pot-heads be?


First Cannabis Café in United States Opens in Portland, Oregon | NowPublic News Coverage

Or is he saying that for his Chinese guest? I'm not sure, what do the rest of you folks think of this?

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Not really......This road sign can be found in Wisconsin.

But California could use it along it's boarders hopefully by 2012. :whoo:

The DA is wasting his time & ALL of our Tax $ on focusing on the MMJ arrests on any over the counter sale of mmj.

There are better uses of the DA's time & the money his office receives from our taxes

1. The DA should spend his time & our tax $ arresting Gang members who are on the streets selling to & children and teens. What about all the murders and severly injuring people from these gang drive by shootings. Put the street pushers out of business.

2. The DA should spend his time & our tax $ on all of the backlog of Rape and Murder evidence kits that sit in a warehouse, waiting to be processed.

3. Finish looking for all of those hit and run drivers that have killed, and crippled so many. The DA should be more focused in prosecuting drunk drivers, that are responsible for hit and runs, and many deaths. I see them getting off with a slap on the wrist, no jail???

4. The DA should spend his time, & our tax dollars to prosecute sex affenders, child molesters, and the parents or foster parents, whose children end up dead, because of abuse.

5. The DA should be thanking the mmj community. The mmj shops have helped put many corner drug pushers out of business.

We need new DA's that have compassion.

In my opinion both of the DA's are not doing their jobs very well. I am not seeing enough of the above criminals being sent to jail. The jails are sooo overcrowded. If they were to release all of the mmj offenders doing time out, there would be more room for long jail terms from the above group of criminals that I described.

STOP upsetting the MMJ Patients and there shops.

Thank you.

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There are some positive and negative aspects to carrying clones in a dispensary, so we thought we would take the question to the patients... what do you think? Clones or no clones??



~MedMar

No - I did not write this. This was written by a friend of mine who wanted me to share it on WT and get some support behind it. This proposal has been distributed to city council and the city attorney's office with the hopes that if the city can make money while gaining some control of the physical product and addressing all the issues that Trutanich/Cooley seem to be having tantrums over (including pesticides, cartels, gangs and the mafia), it will be a step closer to allowing the dispensaries to stay operating and add some legitimacy to the industry. The amount of money for fees and permits and plants per permit is bound to change should the city add this to the ordinance but politicians like to see numbers so they have an idea of what they're dealing with.
Should Marijuana be legalized in coming years, the permit system can stay in place as a base for health/safety regulations for those who wish to sell to dispensaries.

If you support this, please let your council members know, since this may be the only way the city attorneys will get on board and stop prosecuting.
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Proposal value for the city: $22,000,000 in immediate revenue

Proposal for Grower’s and Edibles Permits for the Marijuana Ordinance for Los Angeles



The majority of medical marijuana grown in Los Angeles happens indoors. There is also gang and cartel-related growing operations that currently supply dispensaries. This proposal not only chokes out gang and cartel involvement, but also creates new jobs and much-needed revenue for the city of Los Angeles without even taxing medical marijuana.

The reasons that marijuana is grown indoors is because the plant needs very controlled conditions in order to produce high-potency medicinal grade marijuana. The plant itself can grow anywhere. Growing is expensive and can be dangerous if done indoors. Outdoor growing means that marijuana can only be grown for a certain time of the year due to the amount of sunlight the plant requires. Indoor grows can yield 3-4 harvests a year as opposed to outdoors in which there is only 1 harvest per year.

For the Los Angeles ordinance, please consider the following to be included for a more well-rounded model that generates revenue for the city and eradicates crime as well as removing a monopoly that will be created by the other ordinance in only the dispensaries and collectives being allowed to grow large amounts.

*Include permits for the growers to be purchased from the city for $1200.00. This fee can be paid in cash. For a person who wishes to grow marijuana for a dispensary, they would be required to purchase this permit, and dispensaries would be required to keep records of the permit # of the people who supply them as well as additional records detailed below.

Each Permit issued will require that the grower’s facilities be inspected for fire safety since indoor operations (how the majority of growers do it) require lots of electrical components for lights, cooling systems, fans, etc. Many grows usually require an illegal 240 volt hook-up that many people install themselves. This is dangerous. Fire inspections should occur yearly or whenever an electrical modification has been made. Modification will be determined by the Fire Marshall at a later date. There can be re-visits and additional fees or the revoking of permits if the permit holder is unable to comply with fire safety.

*Require that every batch of marijuana provided to a dispensary be tested for THC content/potency and pesticides and contaminants in a laboratory. Right now there is one Laboratory called Harborside in Oakland , and it only requires 2 grams of marijuana and it costs $112.00 to be tested. (a pound of marijuana for comparison usually costs about $4,000 at “wholesale value” for a grower to recoup their costs when donating/trading with a collective. If testing is required, then this opens up a whole new industry in LA that the pharmaceutical companies can fill, opening up laboratories with new, high paying jobs for citizens. I have already spoken with a few laboratories who were very eager to look into setting up shop in Los Angeles immediately if an ordinance passes that requires testing. They will be happy to fill up empty storefronts in convenient locations. The pharmaceutical industry have been trying to figure out how to capitalize on the medical marijuana industry, and allowing them a small piece of the pie opens up to campaign contributions they will make as well as other contributions to support the city.

Testing will make sure that the marijuana distributed in dispensaries contains nothing dangerous and will remove the Mexican drug cartels from supplying Los Angeles dispensaries. This will also end the growing of marijuana in our state parks because it will not be permitted and thus a dispensary would not be able to carry it.
Testing for THC content will help regulate the medicine supplied to patients, so people can know exactly what they’re getting (like the difference between Tylenol and Extra Strength Tylenol). Right now, there is no way to tell other than the person at the dispensary telling you what they think works better. Many patients are duped into paying high “donation” amounts for sub-par medicine that doesn’t work as well as they were told and could have pesticides or other dangerous compounds.

Every Dispensary will have to maintain detailed records on each grower’s permit including the lab results – which should be made viewable to any of the patients. Patients naturally would prefer tested marijuana to untested.

If the dispensary is found to be distributing medicinal marijuana that has not been tested or comes from an unpermitted grower, they can also be fined $1,000 for the first offence, $5,000 for the second, and $10,000 for the third. The fourth offence results in forfeiture of their dispensary permit and other city permits which can then be auctioned off by the city to the highest bidder. That way the city and patients will not lose a medical marijuana dispensary. The permit value can be assessed anywhere between $200,000 – 1 million dollars. The dispensaries have 6 months to comply, and non compliance fees can result If testing does not occur.

Release a minimum of 10,000 permits. Part of the reason for the high number of permits is because a lot of marijuana grown is not medicinally good enough, and many crops fail or fall victim to pests, over/under fertilization, mold and electrical failure. Because of the testing, a lot of marijuana grown will also not pass standards for a dispensary to provide and will have to be destroyed. The testing of marijuana will also deter a lot of people from buying marijuana off the street because it will be untested and unregulated and considered dangerous.

10,000 permits at $1,200.00 each will result in $12,000,000.00 (twelve million dollars) in revenue for the city immediately. The permits will probably sell out within days. Background and criminal checks will have to be completed for each permit application, and only those who pass those checks will be issued a permit. People who fail the background check would be those who have any affiliation with gangs or organized crime, and those who have committed violent crimes. There also has to be a requirement that the person applying is a citizen of California with proper documentation.
The people who do not pass their background check, will receive a refund less filing and background check fees. Additional permits can be released if needed.

An environmental impact and records fee will have to be charged yearly. If each fee is $800.00 a year, that is an additional $8,000,000 (eight million dollars) a year, with a hardship application if the grower has been unsuccessful – indicative by the test results and by dispensary records. The grower will be responsible for maintaining those records for the life of their permit.

Each Permit will allow for 85 plants to be grown per permit.

Each dispensary will surrender the records of all product contained within the store (that includes permit # of suppliers and test results) at any given time. No patient information. It is the permit # that is recorded and not the person’s name and address, which the city will maintain in conjunction with the permits separately. This is for patient confidentiality.

There can be additional fees collected for noncompliance with fire code, and having more than 85 plants.
For every 10 additional plants over 85 discovered during inspection, a fine of $1000 can be issued.

Issue Permits for the makers of Edibles. Each cook/baker can obtain a permit for $175 and the number of permits issued can be unlimited. Each cook/baker must also have a food handler’s permit before they can apply for an Edible permit. Edible permits will be also subject to the same background checks as for grower’s permits.
The reason for the number of edibles permits being unlimited is that people are experimenting with new ways of using medical marijuana in cooking all the time, and we do not want to discourage those people from developing new and better recipes.

Edibles sold at Dispensaries need to have on the packaging: all ingredients listed and test results from the lab of the Marijuana used. Each package must also state clearly if it contains nuts or was prepared with equipment or in a facility that may have been in contact with nuts. Edibles packages must also have the permit number displayed of the baker. All records of testing of marijuana must be maintained for a period of two years. All edibles must be made in a commercial-grade kitchen, and must have a current health department rating of A or above. This is due to the fact that most patients that need to consume marijuana internally have weak immune systems.

There should be a 1-800 number hotline to report any violations of dispensaries, growing facilities, and edible facilities, etc.

Both the Edible permits and Growers permits will be subject for an additional $75.00 public health and safety fee to cover the costs of additional police and fire inspections.

The public health and safety fee will bring in a minimum of $750,000. This number is based on the 10,000 growers permits that will be issued in Los Angeles County.
By attaching the public health and safety fee of $75.00 to the edibles permit, too, it will allow for additional revenue. The number could be very high with the edibles permit being unlimited. Based on 5,000 edibles permits, that number is estimated at an additional $375,000.

Require background checks that every person working in a dispensary has had a background check.

Total list of fees that Los Angeles should be charging for medical marijuana growers and bakers:

$1,200.00 – Grower’s Permit (one time fee) ………………………………………… total $12 million
$800.00 - Environmental impact and records fee (yearly)………………….. total $8 million per year
$175.00 – Edibles permit (one time fee) (estimated 5,000 bakers/cooks ) total estimated $875,000
$75.00 - Public Health and Safety Fee (yearly) estimated per year starting at $1,125,000 per year

Total revenue for the city in the first year: $22,000,000 (twenty two million dollars)
Recurring Revenue for the following year: $9,125,000 in fees alone.

By accurately documenting the amount of marijuana that goes to each dispensary, we can begin to track the money made by each one since – even as nonprofit entities- each dispensary is required by the state to pay sales tax and the franchise tax board has no way of tracking. This would give the tax board an accurate picture of the money that a dispensary is making. This will force the dispensaries to be honest about paying taxes – many of them only report a fourth of what they bring in. I discovered that information and was very disturbed and this explains the lack of tax revenue going to the city. I have no estimates for how high the actual number should be.

By incorporating this into the city ordinance or by using this in conjunction with the West Hollywood plan, Los Angeles would create a perfect model for other cities and states to follow that not only addresses public health and safety but also creates revenue for the cash-strapped city, and new jobs.



Jobs that are positively affected and that will be supported/created by a strong ordinance that includes permits and regulations regarding testing:

Accountants
Lawyers
Lab technicians
Investors
Doctors (medical marijuana in CA has already created a new medical specialty)
Land owners with vacant shops and office spaces
Nurses
Reception and office workers
New police and fire workers
*Growers/patients/dispensary workers who cannot be hired in many other fields due to their needing to consume marijuana.
Magazines, newspapers, advertising
Small businesses who supply fertilizer, growing equipment, lights, etc.
Large businesses that make and manufacture equipment, fertilizer, etc.
Waste disposal
Small government
Bakers

This has a potential for a minimum of 20,000 new jobs for the city of Los Angeles.

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Colo. governor: Let's tax medical marijuana - Life- msnbc.com


State's attorney general rules that product is not exempt from taxes
The Associated Press
updated 8:31 a.m. PT, Tues., Nov . 17, 2009
DENVER - Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter plans to direct medical marijuana dispensaries to start paying sales tax.
Ritter's move comes after Colorado Attorney General John Suthers concluded in an opinion issued Monday that
medical marijuana is considered personal property that can be taxed and shouldn't be treated like prescription
drugs, which are tax exempt.

Ritter spokesman Evan Dreyer says the administration will immediately tell dispensaries to get retail licenses
and start paying sales tax.

It wasn't immediately clear how much revenue the change would generate in the cash-strapped state.

The decision comes just as Denver moves to impose sales tax on medical marijuana. Denver plans to notify
dispensaries that it will start collecting municipal sales tax starting in December.

And at least one lawmaker sees the tax ruling as a boon for state coffers.

"I'm pleased we now can get some tax revenue from the sale of a constitutionally authorized medical product,"
state Sen. Chris Romer, D-Denver, told Denverpost.com.

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Lets try and get everyone involved with this site, its free, its fun, and has the possibility of turnning into something big.

Or better yet, why not everyone reading this make a post!!:tortue-musique:

For some time we’ve been pointing out the massive pile of evidence that THC and other cannabinoids have potential as anticancer drugs. A new study out of Thailand demonstrates that THC can fight cholangiocarcinoma – cancer of the bile duct. This is a rare but deadly form of cancer, with only 30 percent of patients [...]

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In a double boiler put 16 ounces of chocolate chips, when the chips are about halfway melted add one tablespoon of cannabutter, or margarine, when all is fully melted turn stove higher for a minute or so and add 8 grams of kief and stir like mad for one minute and remove from heat. Now while still hot and runny dump/glop chocolate onto a square dish a refridgerate. Cut into 16 pieces, aprox 1/2 gram of Kief per treat, yum.

So after going through the tub of trim and leaf for buds I decided to kief it all, and I ended up with about 20 grams of kief. So I was trying to figure out what to cook with some, well I found out. I took 16 ounces of chocolate chips and put em in a double boiler till melted, then threw in a tablespoon of cannabutter to keep it runnier, then put in 8 grams of King Kush Kief and took it off the heat and stirred like mad for a solid minute, I then poured, well glopped it all onto a square dish and put it in the fridge to harden. After it hardend I cut it into 16 squares, aproxamitaly half gram of kief per treat, and they're yummy, and kinda potent.:hippie:

i have had me medical card for 2 years the first time it expired i had my doctor renew it over the phone and had faxed her my documentation . it now needs to be renewed a second time. but this time she wont do it over the phone for some reason said i had to come in, and i had moved 300 miles north of where she is located, does anybody know of a doctor that can do this over the phone or a doctor located within 100 miles of big pine california

This meeting is ridiculous so far.......and they haven't even got into the MMJ ordinances. I am listening live over the telephone and will keep you updated. Someone just called the whole panel a bunch of racists and, "when was the last time we saw a white person driving a car". Unbelievable what they waste their time on but when you are the highest paid City Council in the nation you can do whatever you want.

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A little much-needed comic relief! How can anyone take this lady seriously, she is honesty-challenged, and a new scandal erupts every day it seems.

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Here is the City website that has the Council meeting on Medical Marijuana , it is live right now. I was there Monday, today i am having a gout attack so I have to watch it .

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Live Stream Los Angeles City Council
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ADDA Sues Cooley, Claims Retaliation for Exercising Rights

Here is an article about how Cooley is attempting to bust the Deputy D.A.'s union. I find this disgusting. Cooley is a cowboy, and thinks Los Angeles is Marlboro Country. Sorry to my Republican friends, but Cooley is pushing a right wing agenda agenda on us. Public employees are allowed to unionize, and should not get retaliated on by management for doing so. Now Cooley wants us patients to go enrich street dealers, and put thousands out of work. In his zeal for his private culture war, he is undermining economic growth and trying to destroy a reliable tax base.

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City Council Meeting - Wednesday

they just started talking. Enjoy.

Please spend 10 minutes of your life reading the many stories and watching the video attached to the website below.

This could be your or I if we lose the rights we currently enjoy.

Victims of the goverments war against us the Patients.

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FOUR pupils have been expelled and another 15 suspended from Fettes College after they admitted taking cannabis.


The disciplinary action came after other pupils alerted staff to drug-taking at former Prime Minister Tony Blair's old school.

An investigation was launched by the school on Saturday morning. Police were later called in, but no arrests have been made.

Headmaster Michael Spens said the school – where fees are around £23,000 a year for boarders – had a "zero tolerance" policy on the abuse of illegal substances.

Four pupils who were caught smoking pot in a boarding house at the school were expelled. The others, who admitted using the drug off the premises, were suspended. They will be given counselling on their return and will be subjected to random drug tests for the rest of their time at school.

Mr Spens praised the pupils who had reported the drug-taking. He said: "These individuals wanted no part of this and were adamant that they did not want any sort of drug culture to gain a foothold at Fettes.

"They are to be warmly commended for their courage and their willingness to say no.

"While it is highly regrettable that a small minority of pupils have shown very poor judgement, their actions must not be allowed to detract from the highly laudable achievements of the school.

"The large majority of Fettesians embrace fully the moral framework of the college and they continue to be the personable, confident, positive and successful young men and women of whom we are justifiably proud."

A spokesman for Lothian and Borders Police said: "Police were called to Fettes College on Monday regarding allegations of drugs misuse among a number of pupils. No arrests have been made, and inquiries are ongoing."

It is not the first time the school has had problems with drugs. In November 2003, two boys aged 15 and 17 were suspended after being found in possession of cannabis at the school. And in 2002, three sixth-form pupils were expelled after being found to have taken the drug. One failed a drug test while on a school trip to Belgium. Two others were found with a bag of cannabis and cigarette papers following a school club disco.

In 2002, Mr Spens criticised government plans to take a more relaxed stance on cannabis use

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Tonight, after a week of calls by activists, the Drug Enforcement Administration updated its Web site to reflect the American Medical Association’s recent call for a review of marijuana’s Schedule I status. The update removed several references to the AMA, including: “the American Medical Association recommends that marijuana remain a Schedule I controlled substance,” and “the [...]

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ill keep my fingers crossed all day!

Just curious who can make it :hug:

Also, there was a post or something somewhere that had all the council member's contact info and I can't find it. Can we make it a sticky?

Well, our countries financiers are questioning our presidents want/need to overhaul our health care system...................

James Pethokoukis Blog Archive China questions costs of U.S. healthcare reform | Blogs |


China questions costs of U.S. healthcare reform

Posted by: James Pethokoukis


Guess what? It turns out the Chinese are kind of curious about how President Barack Obama’s healthcare reform plans would impact America’s huge fiscal deficit. Government officials are using his Asian trip as an opportunity to ask the White House questions. Detailed questions.

Boilerplate assurances that America won’t default on its debt or inflate the shortfall away are apparently not cutting it. Nor should they, when one owns nearly $2 trillion in assets denominated in the currency of a country about to double its national debt over the next decade.

Nothing happening in Washington today should give Beijing any comfort or confidence about what may happen tomorrow. Healthcare reform was originally promoted as a way to “bend the curve” on escalating entitlement costs, the major part of which is financing Medicare and Medicaid. That is looking more and more like an overpromised deliverable.

For instance, a new study from the U.S. government’s Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services finds that the healthcare reform bill recently passed in the House of Representatives would increase healthcare spending to 21.3 percent of GDP by 2019 compared with 20.8 percent under current law. That’s bending the curve the wrong way. The study also questions the “long-term viability” of the $500 billion in Medicare cuts meant to help pay for expanded insurance coverage.

In addition, the CMS study gives a clearer cost estimate than the one provided by the Congressional Budget Office. According to the CBO, the 10-year cost of PelosiCare is $894 billion. But that analysis includes early years with little government spending, According to the CMS, the House approach would cost $1 trillion from 2013-2019, or some $140 billion a year when fully put into effect.

Few realists in Washington think any of the current reform plans make a significant dent in the long-term healthcare cost to government. Indeed, the Senate Budget Committee recently held hearing about creating a bipartisan commission to find solutions to America’s entitlements problems.

If healthcare reform really bent the curve, there would be a no need for such a commission to do Healthcare Reform 2.0.

The Chinese might want to keep up the questioning.


I just wonder, how much longer will they put up with all the spending before they call in our debt?