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ASA is telling all California cities and counties to lift bans on medical cannabis dispensing collectives. In a letter sent to all 143 California localities that have bans in place, ASA Chief Council Joe Elford, demands that bans be replaced with reasonable regulations that protect patient access.

For the first time, a California Court of Appeal has ruled that state-compliant distribution of medical marijuana is not preempted by federal law. This means that local officials can no longer hide behind federal law when prohibiting dispensaries in their communities. It also affirms the validity of existing state law and cites the Attorney General's guidelines in bolstering the legality of dispensing collectives.

Take action now! If you city or county has a ban, tell your elected officials that:
1. Continuing the ban is a legally risky policy
2. Establishing effective regulation of medical cannabis dispensing collectives is the right thing to do for patients and for the community

The court did not rule on whether localities could lawfully ban such activity and sent the case back to the trial court for further factual development. Still, this decision clearly undermines the justification for local bans.

We need your support to continue the fight for the right of patients to access medical cannabis through local dispensing collectives. Thanks,

Steph Sherer Don Duncan
ASA Executive Director ASA California Director


Handout to government officials: ASA Report on Dispensing Collectives
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with Mike Stark, Florida Senator George LeMieux came down squarely against the rights of individual states to regulate marijuana, indicating that he was against both legalizing medical use and ending prohibition in general. He also believes that it’s

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I was going to vote yes, but after reading how cities can tax it any which way they feel like doing to enrich their own coffers, imagine Long Beach's current crap ordinance...this may go in the no column :doh:


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After a Rancho Cordova woman complained last year about the skunky smell of pot being grown by a medical marijuana-using neighbor, one City Council member suggested a ban on residential pot cultivation.

That proposal went nowhere. But now Rancho Cordova is asking voters to make the city the first in California to approve a tax on home-grown pot for personal use.

Advocates for medical marijuana and a state initiative to legalize pot for recreational use say the proposed tax is so prohibitive that virtually no one could afford to grow marijuana in the Sacramento County city.

The city's Personal Cannabis Cultivation Tax measure on the Nov. 2 ballot would impose an annual tax of $600 per square foot on indoor marijuana cultivation of up to and including 25 square feet, and a $900-per-square-foot tax for anything larger.

The tax, which makes no distinction between medical and recreational cultivation, would cost a resident $15,000 a year if he or she cultivates pot in a 5-foot-by-5-foot growing space indoors. The measure would allow the city to lower the tax.

The tax proposal is drawing the ire of Don Duncan, California director of Americans for Safe Access, an advocacy group for medical marijuana.

"I think that will have the effect of essentially banning legal cultivation," Duncan said. "I don't know anyone who is prepared to pay $600 a square foot."

Rancho Cordova Mayor Ken Cooley said the city is protecting its interests should California voters approve Proposition 19. The state initiative, also on the Nov. 2 ballot, would legalize recreational marijuana use for adults over 21, allow small residential cultivation and permit cities to tax retail pot sales.

Cooley said the measure – which would impose a lower tax on outdoor growing – was a response to concerns "about problems caused in neighborhoods by growing marijuana."

"It just raised the issue for us that, as we comply with state law, we keep on top of quality of life issues," the mayor said.

Neighborhood services manager Kerry Simpson said code enforcement officers have uncovered a few cases of altered circuit boxes and fire hazards from dangerous wiring for residential pot cultivation.

Simpson said the city recently responded to residents complaining about mold in a rental unit.

"Lo and behold, they were causing it themselves because they had a (marijuana) grow in the bedroom," she said.

Dale Gieringer, the California director for National Organization for Reform of Marijuana Laws, said he opposes any tax on medical pot growers but could envision a permit and modest fees for recreational cultivation.

Nevertheless, Gieringer said, the Rancho Cordova cultivation tax is likely an "unconstitutional" and "punitive" measure to keep people from growing pot.

"At that level, the city would collect no money," Gieringer said. "Nobody would pay that tax. It's a punitive tax. And I think it would be thrown out by the courts."

Separate from its ballot measure, Rancho Cordova passed an ordinance declaring outdoor pot cultivation exceeding 25 square feet an unlawful "public nuisance." The ordinance also requires special permits for any indoor grows above 25 square feet.

Rancho Cordova currently bans medical marijuana dispensaries. It has placed a second measure on the November ballot to impose a gross receipts tax of 12 percent to 15 percent on pot sales if any pot stores are allowed to open in the city in the future.

In nearby Sacramento, voters will consider a local measure to levy a gross receipts tax of 2 percent to 4 percent on some 39 existing medical pot dispensaries and impose a tax of 5 percent to 10 percent on new retail pot outlets if Proposition 19 passes.

Cooley said Rancho Cordova has no interest in allowing dispensaries but wanted a pot business tax in place should the courts force the city to accept the establishments.

Council member Dan Skoglund, who cast the only dissenting vote on pot business and cultivation taxes, said the ballot measures falsely suggest the city supports Proposition 19 or marijuana use.

"My vision of an all-American city is not to have a dispensary storefront," Skoglund said. He added: "How are you going to sell your house when you're overlooking the neighbor's (pot) garden?"

Although other cities have targeted marijuana businesses and commercial cultivators for taxes, Rancho Cordova is the first to look at people who may grow pot for themselves.

That infuriates Dr. Phillip Denney, a Carmichael physician who works with medical-marijuana patients, including several from the city.

"I see this as a very thinly veiled threat to the hard-won right of people to use cannabis as medicine," Denney said.

But Rancho Cordova spokeswoman Nancy Pearl said the cultivation tax seeks to pay for city code enforcement and protection against "general threats to the neighborhood" from potential crime, traffic, stench or other nuisances.

"Our building and safety people and police and fire will have to work more to protect the community," Pearl said. "And there are costs associated with that."

to pay for them and took them by killing these three men.” Nelson believes the victims bought medical marijuana from dispensaries and were trying to resell it on the streets. 31-year-old Harold Yong Park of East Hollywood, who was arrested Monday

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Written by Girard on September 1, 2010 - 0 Comments
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From the August 26th issue of the Valley Vantage, with regards to the August 18th Woodland Hills Warner Center Neigbhorhood Council meeting:

Neighborhood Council Meeting Erupts Amid Cries of “Impeach Zine!”

A week ago, news stories and press releases proclaimed that Costco’s plan to move to Warner Center was a “done deal.” But it looks like residents and businesses in the West Valley have only just begun to fight that notion.

At a meeting of the Woodland Hills Neighborhood Council Board (NC) on August 18, there were no specific items on the Agenda concerning the proposal for a Costco in Warner Center. Using the Public Speaker card, however, several representatives stood and challenged the NC to take the lead on community outreach concerning the proposal. Two speakers specifically demanded the recall of Councilman Dennis P. Zine over of his role in moving Costco from its existing site on Roscoe Blvd in Canoga Park to the proposed Westfield Village project at Topanga Canyon and Victory Boulevards.

Jim Anderson, the Neighborhood Council’s at-large representative, was the first to stand and demand the recall of Councilman Zine, saying “his actions are contrary to the area’s best interests, and he has deceived and manipulated the public.” Anderson questioned if the Councilman’s actions were contrived to gain financial support for his purported run for City Controller when his term ends. Anderson pointed at the Councilman’s efforts in helping Westfield massively alter their plans for the supposedly “upscale” Village project without ever opening discussion of potential problems with the community at large.

Echoing Anderson’s plea for Zine’s recall was Neighborhood Council representative Marty Lipkin. He was even more emphatic about Zine’s recall. “He has lied to his constituents. He has betrayed our communities. He has conspired with Westfield, Costco and the Mayor to push a hastily conceived and ill-advised plan down the throats of people who deserve at least some say in the future of their neighborhoods. Am I calling for Zine’s head? Absolutely—except I’m not sure there’s anything in it,” he said.

On a slightly different note, Shirley Blessing, a well-respected Woodland Hills leader, said that she has received dozens of calls from apoplectic neighbors who are incensed at the Councilman’s “utter lack of respect for the communities he supposedly represents.” She urged all to stand tall, and state their case to their representative; “Just say no. This plan lacks foresight and vision.”

Joyce J. Pearson, currently the Community Based Organization Board Representative for Area 2, called for a series of three Town Hall meetings with residents and business owners, paid for from the Council District’s coffers, but hosted by an impartial entity who could prevent the meetings from turning into PR events. “I’m sure our Councilman is open to ‘full transparency’ on this issue—and to picking up the tab for these hearings on what many consider proposed changes to our community too important to ignore. It’s an idea that could only prove to be beneficial to all,” Pearson stated.

Pearson pointed out that when concepts for The Village were first presented several town halls and seminars were held by both Westfield and the Neighborhood Council to introduce the concept of a retail/entertainment/commercial destination to virtually the entire West Valley. “Sure, the economy has changed,” she said. “But to disregard the public’s involvement in the project now would be unfortunate.”

Gordon Murley of the Woodland Hills Home Owners Organization offered another insight. “There seems to be a lot of ‘City of Bell’ in the development – especially dumping Costco on the community. There were no meetings with the community to refine what was being proposed. All of the dealings have been behind closed doors and all the deals worked out between the various City entities, Westfield and Costco. Nowhere were there any invitations to have the

community sit in with Costco or those in the City to voice concerns since there is a Warner Center Specific Plan. We would hope that planning is more than telling a community what they are going to get. Woodland Hills and especially Warner Center deserves planning that will not lower the quality of the visual development that would bring a sense of a place people want to visit and invest. And, the fact that they have not yet revealed just how much they’ve given away to Costco in terms of tax breaks and subsidies from the City, creates concern.”

In a follow up interview, according to Pearson and Blessing, many of the residents and businesses that have contacted them keep asking why there isn’t an Ikea going in instead of a Costco? Ikea is also a big box store, but it is willing to have second or third stories. Anderson and Lipkin said that many of the people they’ve talked to have been calling for some sort of “impeachment” hearing that would force the
Mayor and the Councilman to bring all the details of the Costco deal into the spotlight.

“People aren’t happy about this,” Anderson emphasized. “They know they’ve been kept in the dark and misrepresented by their so called representatives. They want someone they can trust, and they don’t seem to trust Councilman
Dennis Zine anymore.”
The Impeach Dennis Zine Article From The Valley Vantage | Hills of Woodland

Sheriff Lee Baca said Wednesday that the recent triple murder in West Hollywood during an illegal sale of medical marijuana is another example of how the industry has been taken over in part by enterprising criminals.:der:

“The medicinal marijuana program that voters authorized years ago has been hijacked by underground drug dealing criminals who are resorting to violence in order to control their piece of the action,” Baca said.

He said the criminal element has flooded the business because of the outrageous profits to be made. “There are predators armed and seeking easy dollars in sales of marijuana,” Baca said.

Baca said his detectives have found marijuana collectives buying from cartel sources and selling to people in large amounts. In the triple slaying case, two of the dead men did business with at least four dispensaries.

A man charged Wednesday with capital murder in the slayings confessed to the crime during an interview with detectives, investigators said.

Harold Yong Park, 31, told investigators he previously bought and sold marijuana from two of the men and that a dispute erupted when he came to the West Hollywood apartment Thursday evening, where the victims were shot to death.

Sheriff Lt. Pat Nelson said Pirooz Moussazadeh and Bernard Khalili had bought high-grade medical marijuana from local pot dispensaries — some in L.A. and two in West Hollywood — and then resold it. In this case, Park had stolen 4 to 5 pounds of high-grade hydroponically grown marijuana after killing the trio.

The third man killed, Shahriar Moussazadeh, was not involved in the drug deal and was a man in the wrong place at the wrong time, Nelson said.

He said Park did not bring enough money to the deal to buy the drugs he wanted. But detectives are not certain when he decided to kill the men. Nelson said Park has a prior drug conviction and worked previously for a marijuana collective.

Park is expected to appear in a Beverly Hills court Wednesday on murder, robbery and burglaries charges. He is being held without bail. He was arrested Monday in Lomita after his license plate that had been entered into a wanted car database was spotted using a sheriff’s patrol car with an automatic license plate reader.

Meanwhile, the campaign to defeat Proposition 19 announced Wednesday that Baca and Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) will head up the effort to defeat the marijuana legalization measure on the November ballot.

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Sheriff Baca says state's medical marijuana program has been hijacked by criminals, citing triple slaying

September 1, 2010 | 1:32 pm
Sheriff Lee Baca said Wednesday that the recent triple murder in West Hollywood during an illegal sale of medical marijuana is another example of how the industry has been taken over in part by enterprising criminals.

“The medicinal marijuana program that voters authorized years ago has been hijacked by underground drug dealing criminals who are resorting to violence in order to control their piece of the action,” Baca said.

He said the criminal element has flooded the business because of the outrageous profits to be made. “There are predators armed and seeking easy dollars in sales of marijuana,” Baca said.

Baca said his detectives have found marijuana collectives buying from cartel sources and selling to people in large amounts. In the triple slaying case, two of the dead men did business with at least four dispensaries.

A man charged Wednesday with capital murder in the slayings confessed to the crime during an interview with detectives, investigators said.
Harold Yong Park, 31, told investigators he previously bought and sold marijuana from two of the men and that a dispute erupted when he came to the West Hollywood apartment Thursday evening, where the victims were shot to death.

Sheriff Lt. Pat Nelson said Pirooz Moussazadeh and Bernard Khalili had bought high-grade medical marijuana from local pot dispensaries -- some in L.A. and two in West Hollywood -- and then resold it. In this case, Park had stolen 4 to 5 pounds of high-grade hydroponically grown marijuana after killing the trio.

The third man killed, Shahriar Moussazadeh, was not involved in the drug deal and was a man in the wrong place at the wrong time, Nelson said.
He said Park did not bring enough money to the deal to buy the drugs he wanted. But detectives are not certain when he decided to kill the men. Nelson said Park has a prior drug conviction and worked previously for a marijuana collective.

Park is expected to appear in a Beverly Hills court Wednesday on murder, robbery and burglaries charges. He is being held without bail. He was arrested Monday in Lomita after his license plate that had been entered into a wanted car database was spotted using a sheriff’s patrol car with an automatic license plate reader.

Meanwhile, the campaign to defeat Proposition 19 announced Wednesday that Baca and Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) will head up the effort to defeat the marijuana legalization measure on the November ballot.


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Virtually every politician running for State office is against P19. I will call Feinsteins office and politely tell them she has permanently lost my vote. It is interesting that in this anti-incumbant fever the anti-P19 people tout endorsements from incumbants.

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just shameful what politicians (mostly democrats) have done to CA

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Sacaramento’s Fox Affiliate KTXL broadcast what is believed to be the first paid advertisement for a medical marijuana dispensary. The 30-second ad, paid for by Sacramento-based "CannaCare" and produced by KTXL, shows various people delivering

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Nation's Largest Indoor Marijuana Grow Proposed In Chico, Calif.
A southern California business is hoping to capitalize on the medical marijuana movement by opening a 600,000-square-foot indoor medical marijuana grow in Chico. Plant Properties Management, LLC is asking to use the Koret building near the Chico airport, which has been vacant since 2007, to house what would be the nation's largest indoor grow.

Plant Properties Management says the project would take up to nine months to renovate the building, and could provide as many as 230 jobs. The company’s idea is to lease space inside the building so collectives can cultivate their medicine under one roof.

Paul DeFlores spoke for the company at a Chico City Council meeting earlier this month, and said the project would also bring in much needed revenue to the area. DeFlores said projected business revenues would be, “approximately $200 million, and local tax revenue would be approximately $3.6 million.”

Despite the possible financial benefits, Chico Associate Planner and Zoning Administrator Greg Redeker isn't sold. Redeker says the city has yet to agree on an ordinance for collectives, so adding this proposal is out of the question right now. “We are moving forward with our medical marijuana ordinance which would allow, in certain zones, store front dispensary-type operations…but this sort of large scale cultivation is not being recommended at this time."

In order for the facility to be utilized for growing medical marijuana, Redeker says the city council would have to reconfigure the zones in which medical marijuana is allowed to be obtained. As of now the Koret building is in an airport manufacturing district, and the current proposed medical marijuana ordinance would only allow collectives to operate in light, or general manufacturing districts.

Oakland currently has the largest operating indoor medical marijuana grow at 100,000-square-feet. The one in Chico would be six times that, groundbreaking to some, but not for Redeker. “Oakland is kind of leading the charge, if you will, for medical marijuana…so we’re gonna go ahead and let them take that role.”

The Chico City Council meets September 16th to discuss the new medical marijuana ordinance for collectives.

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This from our ASA rep in SD:

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A travesty occurred in San Diego today, Jovan Jackson a US Navy Veteran and medical marijuana patient was denied a medical marijuana defense in State Court.

After the decision came this morning, Steve Walters, Dumanis' #1, celebrated the Judge's decision with high fives and congratulatory hugs to Linbergh and the other DA's gathered in the courtroom to witness the Judge's decision.

According to Judge Shore, all 1600 members of the Answerdam collective would have had to participate in the cultivation of marijuana. The Judge maintains that sales of marijuana are not legal and that dispensaries are not legal. The only thing legal according to the DA and Judge Shore, is a community garden, where all members associate only for the purposes of cultivation.

Lance Rogers, Jovan Jackson's attorney said after the hearing that today's decision will be appealed.

Jovan Jackson is due back in court on September 8th at 9am.

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Without this move Jovan goes free, just like the last time they tried him on these very same charges. Our DA had to find a judge that would finally agree with her that everyone has to farm to belong to a collective. The appeal will take time and in the mean time Jovan has to suffer through a second set of identical charges separated by a few months. This is an act of desperation on the DA's part, however that does not add to anyone's comfort down here.

Our County ordinance is being contested by several organizations and will be a re-enactment of the ID Card fiasco. The County will eventually lose, but in the mean time they get to act as if they are right.

The City ordinance is still being crafted by the City Attorney and should come up soon. The City Council is now re-convening after a break. There are 3 problems with the City ordinance.

1. It requires a level 4 permit which alone will cost over $50k.
2. It requires police permitting as well.
3. It requires that ALL dispensaries be statutory cooperatives.

Other than this the ordinance is something we can all live with, though it is far from perfect.

Thats right folks, I am finally back. the last year or so has been rather trying on me, I lost my shop (collective),my Dog (best friend) and my health is slipping more and more each day.

I return today (night whatever!) with a heavy heart. As many of you may know the City of Los Angeles in their so called ultimate wisdom have backstabbed those of us whom attempted to work with them to forge a reasonable ordinance for Los Angeles.

It appears that they intend to close down as many collectives in the city that they can get away with even if by false pretences.In the past you have been asked to attend protest's,rally's and other events aimed in support of our common cause.Some showed and many did not.

I do not know about you and your situation but I rely on the collective that I hold membership in (California Patients Alliance) to provide me with the medicine that helps me make it through each and every day with the minimum amount of pain.If the city has it's way my collective will no longer exsist,Will yours?

This is totally unacceptable and I am willing to fight for my rights and the right of my collective to operate within the City of Los Angeles under reasonable guidelines and regulation but the City of Los angeles has not only crossed the line of reasonable but their regulation could even be considered unconstitutional by most. Are you willing to just stand by and let YOUR "Safe Access" slip away? I'm not! Are you going to stand up for your rights as a Californian and a United states Citizen? I am! Are you going to be there on September 7th and try to make a difference? I am and I hope to see ya there, LOUD & PROUD

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Wealthy marijuana backer returns to Oregon politics

Wealthy marijuana backer returns to Oregon politics | OregonLive.com



Published: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 9:20 AM Updated: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 10:28 AM

Peter Lewis, the billionaire chairman of Progressive Auto Insurance, is back dabbling in Oregon politics.
He recently gave $12,800 for the November ballot measure allowing medical marijuana dispensaries in Oregon.


Given his past enthusiasm for pro-marijuana causes, it wouldn't be surprising if this isn't a down-payment for the Measure 74 campaign. Lewis and two of his fellow billionaires - currency trader George Soros and Phoenix University founder John Sterling - bankrolled the 1998 ballot measure allowing medicinal marijuana use.

In fact, that was just one of four medical marijuana measures passed that year thanks to the financial backing from the trio through their group, Americans for Medical Rights.

Share Lewis was also a big supporter of the Marijuana Policy Project, which sought to legalize the drug. If you can believe celebstoner.com (I confess a lack of familiarity with this segment of the news media), Lewis contributed some $40 million to the group over the course of a decade before having a falling-out with the organization earlier this year.

Lewis and Soros also contributed heavily to a huge get-out-the-vote effort in 2004 aimed at preventing President George W. Bush's reelection. It failed, of course, but their money certainly helped train a generation of liberal organizers.

Lewis inherited Progressive from his father in 1955 and built the relatively small company into a powerhouse that grabbed a big share of the auto insurance market. Besides his political activism, Lewis has been a huge philanthropist. Among other things, he has given $101 million to his alma mater, Princeton University.

According to Accuracy in Media, Lewis has described himself as "half screwball, half businessman" and was once said by Hoover's Handbook of American Business as a "functioning pot-head." He was busted in New Zealand in 2000 for possession of marijuana, which his lawyer said he used on the advice of a physician for pain relief related to the partial amputation of his leg.

The California Assembly failed to adopt SJR 14 by only four votes on Monday (37 ayes, 29 no, 12 no vote). We are disappointed by this outcome, but I want to thank the hundreds of Americans for Safe Access (ASA) members and supporters who called their representatives in the Assembly over the last ten days [...]


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It is my belief that, even if Ca passes prop 19, the federal government will surely step in and stop it from becoming law. Just think of the Arizona immigration law and prop 8. Again, IMHO, Ca will not be allowed to become the Amsterdam of the world.

These are my thoughts. I would appreciate hearing other thoughts. Particularly answers to the question, "How can the federal government allow California to become the world's Mecca for marijuana?". Also, how can the federal government allow a state to categorically change federal laws surrounding marijuana?

Here is a fun question. If it becomes legal, will you be able to fly on airlines with marijuana thereby overcoming federal laws?

Have a Great Day

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A travesty occurred in San Diego today, Jovan Jackson a US Navy Veteran and medical marijuana patient was denied a medical marijuana defense in State Court.

After the decision came this morning, Steve Walters, Dumanis' #1, celebrated the Judge's decision with high fives and congratulatory hugs to Linbergh and the other DA's gathered in the courtroom to witness the Judge's decision.

According to Judge Shore, all 1600 members of the Answerdam collective would have had to participate in the cultivation of marijuana. The Judge maintains that sales of marijuana are not legal and that dispensaries are not legal. The only thing legal according to the DA and Judge Shore, is a community garden, where all members associate only for the purposes of cultivation.

Lance Rogers, Jovan Jackson's attorney said after the hearing that today's decision will be appealed.

Jovan Jackson is due back in court on September 8th at 9am.

More information to come later.

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By Windows Club| August 23rd, 2010. Filed under: Security. Tags: MSE, Rogue

There is a new fake Microsoft Security Essentials doing the rounds! This Microsoft Security Essentials Alert is basically a Trojan which tries to trick you into buying one of the 5 rogue anti-virus programs that it is pushing.

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During this fake online scan only the 5 fake anti-virus programs listed above will state that this supposed Trojan is an infection. It does this to scare you into clicking the Free Install button next to them that will install the rogue program onto your computer and then reboot your computer.
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You can see the download links for the original Microsoft Security Essentials here.
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This has got to be willfull ignorance at work here. There can't be any other explanation IMHO. Do these people read American History? Are these people aware that the POTUS does not have such powers? Each new poll comes up with astounding results. The influence of the conservative media is freaky. We have a large segment of our population that will believe things that are just not true. Wow!

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A very famous bigot is building a church near Ground Zero. I feel he has every right to build this church as long as he can afford it, and it passes zoning muster. I am not hearing a peep out of the anti-Community Center folks, even though this would appear to be controversial. This Pastors legacy is one of hate and division. You would think it would cause a stir!

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Posted: 08/29/2010 01:30:00 AM PDT
Tony Newman and Stephen Gutwillig

Californians have a chance to make history in November when they vote on Proposition 19, which would legalize marijuana for adults over 21. Polls collectively show voters split but leaning toward this momentous stand against failed marijuana prohibition. Ten weeks from Election Day, it's clear how much Prop. 19 has already accomplished for the drug policy reform movement.

Prop. 19 is arguably the highest profile voter initiative in the nation and has unleashed a torrent of global interest. The initiative has generated thousands of international stories, explicitly discussing this alternative to our disastrous policies.

In particular, Prop. 19 has radically accelerated the public's understanding of the relative harms of marijuana, tobacco and alcohol, validating the widespread suspicion that a fundamental hypocrisy lies at the heart of the outright ban on marijuana -- as evidenced by the endorsement of former U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Joycelyn Elders.

Prop. 19 has inspired an unprecedented coalition in support of reforming our futile and wasteful marijuana laws. Students for Sensible Drug Policy and Firedoglake.com organized students, law-enforcement, libertarians and progressives to launch their "Just Say Now" campaign.

The California NAACP, the state ACLU affiliates and the National Black Police Association all endorsed Prop. 19, specifically citing the chilling racial disparities in the enforcement of marijuana laws. Latino leadership, starting recently with Assemblyman Hector De La Torre and the Latino Voters League, has just begun to weigh in as well.


Finally, organized labor -- from longshoremen to food to communications workers -- for the first time offered endorsements because controlling and regulating marijuana will mean jobs and revenue that the state currently cedes to criminal cartels and the black market.

This coalition signifies that serious people take regulating marijuana for adults seriously. Prop. 19 is now at the heart of spirited debates at kitchen tables, in college classrooms and in halls of power that once assumed the inevitability of the status quo. In fact, former Mexican President Vicente Fox just endorsed marijuana legalization precisely to address the prohibition-related bloodbath in Mexico that has taken 28,000 lives since 2006.

In this country Prop. 19 has truly sped up the political debate on marijuana policy overall, one that was previously dominated by medical marijuana issues. The major candidates for statewide office in California generally oppose Prop. 19.

However professional politicos, including California Democratic Party Chairman John Burton, already identify marijuana legalization as a potential game-changing issue to drive Democratic turnout among younger, progressive voters in this and future elections.


That's precisely why nominee for lieutenant governor, Gavin Newsom, with a potentially long future in state politics, publicly agonized over his decision, saying, "I'm frustrated with myself on this one, to be truthful."

Even the California PTA has acknowledged these shifting winds by taking a neutral rather than opposing position, signaling the historic debate that must have occurred within its venerable ranks.

Prop. 19 has created opportunities that conventional wisdom simply couldn't have predicted. Anyone sick and tired of our disastrous marijuana prohibition has been handed a chance to make history. California voters should not only go to the polls but also talk to friends, family and neighbors about Prop. 19. Those of us outside of California should support the campaign financially right now and help get out the vote in November.

Prop. 19 is already a winner. Imagine when we make this the vote heard around the world.


Tony Newman is the director of media relations at the Drug Policy Alliance. Stephen Gutwillig is the California director of the Drug Policy Alliance.

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.A team of Montreal researchers has lent scientific credibility to the view that smoking marijuana can ease chronic neuropathic pain and help patients sleep better.

People suffering from neuropathic pain often turn to opioids, antidepressants and local anesthetics, but those treatments have limitations and the side effects can be punishing. Many physicians and policy-makers, however, are reluctant to advocate the use of cannabis since there has been little scientific research into its effectiveness, even though patients champion its use.

The study, published Monday in the Canadian Medical Association Journal, found that pain intensity among patients decreased with higher-potency marijuana. It is one of a handful of scientific attempts to determine the medicinal benefits of the drug.

“We’re not saying that this is the final solution for chronic pain management. As with any pain strategy, especially with chronic pain, we know that the best approach is a multidisciplinary one,” said lead author Mark Ware, director of clinical research at the Alan Edwards Pain Management Unit of the McGill University Health Centre. “All that this does is open the door to the cannabinoid being another tool in the toolbox in treating chronic pain.”

Twenty-one adults with post-traumatic or post-surgical chronic pain took part in the study and were randomly assigned to receive marijuana at three different potencies: with a tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) content of 2.5 per cent, 6 per cent and 9.4 per cent, and a placebo. THC is the active ingredient in the cannabis plant. Participants inhaled a single 25-milligram dose through a pipe three times daily for the first five days in each cycle, followed by a nine-day period without marijuana. They continued this over two months, rotating through all four strengths of THC.

The researchers measured pain intensity using a standard scale, with study subjects reporting the highest-strength drug was the most effective at reducing the pain and allowing them to sleep.

The study does not address questions about the long-term efficacy of using the drug to treat chronic pain, the researchers acknowledge. Also, there were some adverse effects among participants, including dizziness, numbness and a burning sensation in areas of neuropathic pain.

Dr. Ware said further research will build upon this study.

“As a cannabis user, it can be really hard to get people to take you seriously,” said Amy Brown, 28, a Toronto woman who was not a subject in the study but uses marijuana to relieve chronic pain and swelling in her wrist, which was injured in a car crash five years ago.

“To me, this study is vindication.”

For her, cannabis has been more effective than chemical painkillers, which had unpleasant side effects. “I wasn’t me any more, I was a drone, I was robot-like,” she said. “[When I started cannabis], I made a complete 180. I know what’s going on now. I have a clear head.”

The federal government has given authorization to almost 5,000 people to possess dried marijuana, and 3,500 people hold personal use production licences, according to Health Canada. A doctor’s authorization is required before a licence is issued. Several court judgments forced Health Canada to get into the marijuana business a few years back, so that patients would not have to rely on the black market for their supplies.

But despite Health Canada’s regulations, Dr. Ware said many in the medical community are not open to the use of marijuana to relieve pain.

“There’s a lot of resistance from physicians, and in fact some of the policy-makers, that there isn’t much evidence to support this. I know some of the Colleges and the CMA want to see evidence behind these claims before they will consider supporting or endorsing the regulations,” he said. “[This study] should provide some support to the fact that there is evidence now out there to support these claims.”

Henry McQuay, a professor at Balliol College at the University of Oxford, said the study adds to three previous investigations of smoked cannabis in coping with neuropathic pain, two of which involved patients with HIV. He noted, however, that the participant size of the study was small, the trial was short and it remains to be seen if marijuana can yield greater analgesia with fewer adverse effects than conventional drugs.

“The current trial adds to the trickle of evidence that cannabis may help some of the patients who are struggling at present,” Prof. McQuay wrote in an accompanying commentary.


Marijuana effective in reducing pain, study shows - The Globe and Mail

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so alot of people know about the religious ministries that usually form around Judeo-Christianity. im a Southern Califonia patient that has been dying to find a relgious group that reccomends the use of Gods holy herb. iv seen them around, but all i can find is ones in HAWAII and NORTHERN California. i need one that is atleast somewhere in the LA communtity. i would love to have a place to go to where i feel accepted for using his herb. iv tried explaining to churches the use in it and most agree with it but still think that the body should never be intoxicated. but i also have other Shamanic views on the world and celebrate them as well. of course, these two religions dont mix often. im hoping to see a group that will understand my reasoning between the two. perhaps i can find someone that knows of a physical group in Southern California but even an online forum would be great as well!

if anyone has any information on this subject, please discuss! id love to hear about any groups or churches i can visit that would perhaps accept mine and my girlfriends religion.

thanks =):hippie:

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Keeping it Positive,
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This effects many of us Patients... Be Advised:

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Never turn your back on a young dog.
Friggin Benji. Yesterday he's @ the son's girlfriend's place. They left him in the kitchen for a second and he managed to power through 6 hotdogs and buns and a half loaf of bread.
They drag the little sucker over to our place and he immediately heads out toward the bbq and puts back another half dozen raw hamburgers. Thank God for wax paper ! So many uses besides drying hash.
Both events occured inside of an hour of each other. He remained in a food coma for much of the night . Not a peep today. Couple of farts. Seems fine.
He just cracks me up.
Enlarge these pictures from this morning and stare deep into the eyes of a food thief !

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HempCon Blasted for Cheap Medical Pot Doctoring

— Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:21 AM David Downs - East Bay Express


Doctors, patients, and industry are bashing the organizers of HempCon, which took place August 6-8 in San Jose, for running a de facto medical marijuana prescription mill out of the trade show. Eyewitnesses noted long lines of young adults without medical records quickly processed by seven or eight doctors for $40 per person.
“I would consider one doctor a prescription mill. This was seven or eight. My best way to describe it was a price war,” said attendee Bob Katzman.
HempCon organizers Mega Productions — noted for running tattoo and porn expos out of Los Angeles — declined to comment.
The Medical Board of California tells doctors to treat marijuana like they would any other drug, and recommend it only after a good faith examination. According to noted physician Dr. Frank Lucido, that would include looking at the patient's history, coming up with a treatment plan with objectives, and discussing side effects. Such an exam can take 30 to 45 minutes, a much slower tempo than what was apparent at HempCon.
"What you saw was a thousand people holding clipboards and forms, moving in and out of line so fast it was hard to imagine [the doctors] were doing a proper job. I just really don't," said Jeremiah Schimp, spokesperson for Weedtracker.com and a HempCon visitor.
“There's a likelihood that it skirts acceptable medical guidelines set out by the state medical board,” said Kris Hermes, spokesperson for medical marijuana group Americans for Safe Access. “Arguably, they're making a mockery of their own role in the medical profession and the medical cannabis community may suffer as a result of these specialists cutting corners.”
No one is getting hurt by loose recommendations, counters Pierre Werner, cavalier operator of Dr. Reefer out of Las Vegas. He thinks evaluations should get easier across the country.
“There's no real reason you should have a full check-up,” Werner says. “It's no different than your doctor recommending you eat well, have a good diet, and get plenty of rest.”
Werner's an ex-con who says cannabis helps control his bipolar and schizophrenia symptoms. He employs a couple doctors in Vegas who see patients for five to fifteen minutes, at $200 per patient. Warner charges an extra $100 if a customer lacks medical records, with the added cost going to a physical examination.
Dr. Reefer physicians make $4,000 for eight hours of work and business is booming. Werner is setting up remote locations where his doctors can work via web conferencing software Skype.
Back in California, Lucido says, “I don't think much of that.” Cannabis might never kill a patient, but a lax diagnosis can.
Lucido recalls a male in his twenties who sought a marijuana recommendation to treat asthma and anxiety. Lucido listened to his heart and lungs, and noted a thyroid mass on his neck. He gave the patient a three-month recommendation for cannabis and requested his primary doctor feel his thyroid. The thyroid mass turned out to be cancer that had spread to the lungs.
“No one has been killed by marijuana, but when you're prescribing marijuana for the wrong thing you could be missing something more serious,” Lucido says.
Generally, people hate going to the doctor, and a weed-driven visit is a chance to engage in preventative medicine. The ASA recommends that patients who want medical marijuana broach the topic with their primary doctor. Hermes says even some Kaiser doctors have recommended it.
But Lucido recommends the opposite. Don't bring up marijuana with your primary care physician, he says, and if you do, ask to “go off the record” first.
“Sometimes you get patients asking their doctor for a recommendation of cannabis and the doctor will turn around and write 'cannabis user' in their files,” Lucido says. “As long as there's a drug war going on, patients have a valid reason not to have cannabis mentioned in their records.”
That confusion may be driving business to fly-by-night recommendation mills. Such mills are increasingly operating out of convention spaces and contributing to a collapse in the price of recommendations, says HempCon attendee Katzman.
Katzman is a businessman who runs the well-reviewed International Cannabis & Hemp Expo. There's at least fifteen weed expos in California this year varying in quality from some that are borderline academic conferences to others that are little more than weed fairs.
Doctor's recommendations have dropped in California from over $200 a few years ago to $100 to $150 today, he says. Katzman's Expo will support one doctor who charges $99 per visit, and they take the doctoring seriously.
“Otherwise it makes the whole movement seem invalid,” Katzman said. “There's a lot of people who question the actual legitimacy of medical cannabis.”
Allergic to opioids, cancer survivor and activist Angel Raich uses cannabis to deal with excruciating pain as she recovers from major head surgery. Raich says HempCon erodes gains by patients and contributes to the suffering of people who actually need the plant.
“It's definitely not helping anybody and it shouldn't be happening,” Raich says. “It makes all us real patients look like a joke and that makes me mad.”
Mega Productions plans to include marijuana evaluation services at another HempCon in Southern California on September 10 at the Los Angeles Convention Center.

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The city seeks to shut medical marijuana shops whose ownership or management has changed at all, for any reason, since 2007.



David Vayntrub says the city might be trying to shut his dispensary because his wife’s job has changed. “I’m still here. Same manager. Same owner,” he said. “We truly tried to follow this ordinance.” (Katie Falkenberg, For The Times / August 29, 2010)




When the Los Angeles City Council adopted its medical marijuana ordinance, it aimed to rout unscrupulous dispensary operators whose unruly customers irritated residents and operators who opened up willy-nilly across the city, ignoring a ban on new stores.

But the ordinance has snared operators who appear to have tried hard to adhere to state law and the city's rules. Among them are some of the most politically active operators whose dispensaries are considered model operations. Last week, the city sued these dispensaries and dozens of others and asked a judge to rule that they could be shut down.

The ordinance, which went into effect in June, allowed dispensaries that registered with the city by Nov. 13, 2007, to apply to stay open, but it required them to have "the same ownership and management." The city attorney's office has decided that means the owners and managers must be the same people who held those positions three years ago.

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When Barry Kramer opened California Patients Alliance in April 2007, he ran it alone. "I was the manager. I was the operator. I was the secretary. I was everything," he said. Now, with about 1,500 members, the Beverly Grove dispensary has added two managers. "I can't be here seven days a week," Kramer said. "I don't see any legal basis for saying a business is not allowed to expand."

Under the city's interpretation of the ordinance, if a dispensary's manager died, quit or was fired and was then replaced, it must close. If the business grew and added managers, it must close. If it shrank and let managers go, it must close. If it was sold to new owners, it must close.

"It makes it completely irrational. This is life. Things happen," said David Welch, a lawyer who represents more than 60 dispensaries. "It almost puts an impossible burden on collectives."

Stewart Richlin, another attorney for dispensaries, noted that the city did not tell registered dispensaries in 2007 that they could not change owners or managers, and he pointed to a 2009 planning department memo that says the city "does not prohibit ownership changes."

"This is America," he said. "Every business can be transferred."

The city attorney's office said it must interpret the ordinance strictly, saying any discretion would expose the ordinance to legal attacks. "We are constantly thinking of the greater good, which is an enforceable ordinance," said Jane Usher, a special assistant city attorney who helped draft the law and is defending it against 32 lawsuits filed by dispensaries that were ordered to shut down.

Usher said the language that the City Council adopted is unambiguous: no change in ownership, no change in management. "There was a very clear road map," she said, "and I don't know why dispensaries didn't follow it, but I assume they didn't follow it because they couldn't."

David and Irina Vayntrub learned last week that their dispensary, Absolute Herbal Pain Solutions, was ineligible to stay open.

"I was shocked," said David Vayntrub, holding up a point-by-point summary of the ordinance that his wife had typed up and that he keeps on his desk. "This is in front of me every day."

The Vayntrubs think the city disqualified their dispensary because Irina, who they said has been involved since the store opened in January 2007, is now the secretary of the board. Under the city attorney's interpretation, that might be a management change. They are not certain, though; they said city officials did not respond to the five voice messages they left last week.

"I'm still here. Same manager. Same owner," said David Vayntrub, who said he works at the store on South La Brea Avenue every day. "We truly tried to follow this ordinance."

The city clerk last week notified 128 of the 169 registered dispensaries that they were ineligible to remain open. The city filed a lawsuit against the ineligible dispensaries, but they will be allowed to operate until a judge considers the suit.

According to the suit, 120 were ineligible because of management changes. Of those, 58 were disqualified solely on that basis; the others also had ownership changes and other issues.

The clerk's office is trying to figure out how to respond to distraught dispensary operators. "I'm trying to iron that out now," Holly Wolcott, its executive officer, said last week.

Councilman Ed Reyes, who oversaw the drafting of the ordinance, said the city needed to "stick with the letter of the law" but promised to assess the effect on dispensaries.

Some disqualified operators will be familiar to Reyes because they have been active at City Hall for years. All of them are original operators and were excluded for management changes.

Besides Kramer, they include Yamileth Bolanos, who runs PureLife Alternative Wellness Center and heads a group of about 60 original dispensaries; Michael Backes with Cornerstone Research Collective, which focuses on severely ill patients; James Shaw with Arts District Healing Center, who runs the Union of Medical Marijuana Patients; and Bill Leahy, who manages the Farmacy stores, which were started by a pharmacist, JoAnna LaForce.

"I can't tell you how surprised we all were," said Leahy, adding that the city is targeting registered dispensaries when it has failed to shut down numerous unauthorized outlets. "Most of them have reopened again and the city's done very little about it."

Some ineligible dispensaries appear to be victims of a Catch-22 or two.

Almost a year after dispensaries were required to register in Los Angeles, the state attorney general advised that they needed to be run as nonprofit collectives. Many were not. So they reorganized as nonprofit corporations, a change that replaced an owner with a board of directors. Under the city attorney's interpretation of the ordinance, that may have disqualified them.

This summer, when the city started to determine whether the registered dispensaries were qualified to remain open, it sent them a letter asking for "the name(s) of the collective's management." Because the ordinance defines managers as anyone responsible for "organization, registration, supervision, or oversight," some dispensaries included names of employees that were not on their original registration forms, which may have disqualified them.

More than a few wonder whether it was a trap. "We all knew they were looking for some slimy little technicality, and this seems to be it," Kramer said.

Chris Fusco, a consultant who knows the ins and outs of City Hall, said that when he inquired about the letter, he was told by officials at the clerk's office that an exact match was required. But others, including the Vayntrubs, said they were not.

"The administration of the application process is just like nothing I have ever seen or known or imagined," Fusco said. "It's a black curtain, and what's behind it, no one will tell you."

john.hoeffel@latimes.com

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sound: rock/reggae

Here is SEEDLESS's first album it just dropped. The release party @ Galaxy with Pacific Dub and Tomorrow's Bad Seeds was a Roor sick show. They got some help from Silverack records management, LOU DOG (the famous, yea....crazy) recorded their album @ 17th st recordings off 55. Seedless's space ship is taking off! So here is the album WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS ALBUM? Even if you don't like the music you have to listen to the funny tracks. Christina Mastered and Turn Bass Down! Write down something cool or creative and I'll show band members during practice and maybe reply 3rd person style individually! Toke up and enjoy.

so WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS ALBUM?

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The turtle is gone. My neighbor has a friend with a pond and they will take the turtle.

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About a week ago we found a red-eared slider, starving and dehydrated, wondering through the front yard. We brought it inside and put it in a small aquarium and started feeding it. It is back in good health, very active, and it is time to move on (we do not have the space, equipment, or time to take care of a turtle right now). If anyone would like to have a nice red-eared slider and can provide a proper environment let me know. We have a small amount of turtle food, but you would need to provide everything else.

Hi Weed trackers, Outdoor season is getting close to fall time but It's still NOT TOO LATE to throw a couple plants into the yard. We are about to begin a renovation and have to get rid of some mother plants. There are a few different strains ranging in sizes anywhere from 1-4 ft tall. please come see us in person if interested. the bigger plants 3-4 ft are going to be $50-$60, the 1-2 ft ones are $20-$40.I'm not there right now and don't remember all of them off top of my head but We'll try to post up the strains available by Monday. these plants would yield a nice amount if they were put outdoors in the next 7-10 days and given the proper care. Call us or come on down I'll post more info on whats available soon thanks
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