[MMUser]

Originally Posted by Eazy

bombien. I just baked 8/10ths of a gram of God's Gift and threw it in the hemp mix. It just powdered perfectly and the aroma is exactly like weed smells just before it gets vaped.

Again, I wrapped it in foil and ya can't smell a thing. When it's cool, a few seconds, you can check if it's wrapped tight by smelling it. No aroma. When I opened it, perfect aroma and texture and no sign of over cooking on the inner tinfoil.

Same thing as last night, very quick acting, and I just ate a big dinner first.

This method has promise. Tomorrow, I'm gonna try 300 degrees and see what flies.

Thanks for sharing all this info. Please continue to keep us posted as I'd love to know what works out best after all your tests.

[MMUser]

Originally Posted by Eazy

Yes, this method seems to be very quick acting. I felt it good within an hour and it came on strong after two hours.

I've heard the fastest way is to infuse into Olive Oil then put some of the oil under your tongue and it can be as fast as minutes before it takes effect. I haven't tried this myself, has anyone else?

[ironchefblue]

Think of fat (lipid) and alcohol as solvents, a transport mechanism. Alcohol tincture applied under the tounge absorbs into your bloodstream very quickly. Putting heated bud under your tounge would do next to nothing. They're easier to digest and when eaten get into your system faster than straight plant matter.

[Eazy]

Originally Posted by MMUser

Thank you! This is exactly the tyep of information I was looking for.

So, a fat is not necessary as long as it is heated for the right temperature/amount of time? Does the fat or alcohol add any other benefit that heating alone doesn't?

Fat is always necessary to metabolize THC. Alcohol gets metabolized into a type of fat and fat transports THC around the body, like a car. When it passes through the liver too, the THC is converted to 11-hydroxy and when 11-hydroxy gets released from the liver into the body, it causes perfect sedation, in simple terms!

So, you can toss the powder into something fatty like hemp milk, cows milk, or...a beer or a brownie mix (sugars and fats, excellent transport system for THC) No doubt, the beer will dramatically enhance the effect of the THC, so talk to your doctor first. For example, in my case, alcohol could kill me if I didn't use a respiratory device during sleep. Alcohol radically exacerbates obstructive sleep apnea, without the device, major brain damage or death could occur during an obstruction.

I've eaten edibles and THC strips on an empty stomach and got thoroughly medicated. When an edible is potent, it cuts right through the food, in-fact, a lot of food promotes full use of the entire edible, so a full stomach equates a better effect...the empty stomach/edible thing is an old wife's tale!

Tonight, 300 degrees. dpla says just under 325, makes sense. As I'm reading more, the science is: The best effect is when you activate everything that goes active up to 325 degrees. When you go over 325 degrees, some of the good stuff gets vaporized and the THC and other cannabinoids degrade into non-useful stuff, some stuff that blocks THC from getting metabolized.

I can't thank dpla enough for sharing this method. So funny, the simplest and easiest is the most effective. I'm getting incredible sleeps via this method.

Also, 8/10ths may be too much for me. The effect persisted well into the morning from early last night! So, a lower dose with the higher temps. I wonder how much difference 50 degrees will make. I'd be amazed if there's a strong effect with something like 3/10ths of a gram at just under 325 degrees.

[MMUser]

Originally Posted by Eazy

Fat is always necessary to metabolize THC...

Thanks for all the information Eazy. The only thing I'm still a little confused by is that fat is necessary to metabolize the THC. Since that's the case, how do the pills filled with pre-heated ground marijuana still work (see earlier posts in this thread)?

[Eazy]

Originally Posted by MMUser

Thanks for all the information Eazy. The only thing I'm still a little confused by is that fat is necessary to metabolize the THC. Since that's the case, how do the pills filled with pre-heated ground marijuana still work (see earlier posts in this thread)?

Fat is stored in the liver, blood, and other organs. So, if you have a good metabolism and some fat in your body, the contents of the pill will get metabolized on an empty stomach when it dissolves and passes through the liver and comes in contact with the fat! If you drink a glass of water, the cap will dissolve faster and separate the THC out and send it right to the liver! But, for the full-effect, you want fat in the stomach so some of the THC gets directly into the blood stream in the form of THC and the rest goes through the liver and turns to 11-hydroxy.

Also, there's glands in the mouth that'll pickup THC...how's about powder in a shot of Barcardi 151, swished around the mouth...omg, probably a knock-out.

[dpla]

I'm glad this method is working out well. The technique is shamanistic and thousands of years old.

[Eazy]

Originally Posted by dpla

I'm glad this method is working out well. The technique is shamanistic and thousands of years old.

Yup. It took me 48-years to find out this secret. Thanks for sharing it with us!

Now we know what "they" have been trying to keep from us -- perfect sleep, it makes you smart! The only way they can keep us stupid is deprive us of hemp and perfect sleep.

ha. not no more.

By the way, I hereby nominate you Gawd For A Day for sharing this precious gift, once a secret, now a fact of life!

[dpla]

Originally Posted by Eazy

Yup. It took me 48-years to find out this secret. Thanks for sharing it with us!

Now we know what "they" have been trying to keep from us -- perfect sleep, it makes you smart! The only way they can keep us stupid is deprive us of hemp and perfect sleep.

ha. not no more.

By the way, I hereby nominate you Gawd For A Day for sharing this precious gift, once a secret, now a fact of life!

Thank Gawd and the Shamans, I'm just the messenger.

[Eazy]

Originally Posted by dpla

Thank Gawd and the Shamans, I'm just the messenger.

Message received!

[ps-med]

Have you tried this method (the oven baked for 15 minutes) and oil or butter infusion (simmer at 325 for about 4 hours)? If so, did you notice any real difference in effects? Seems like the oven foil pack method is quicker. Once I feel up to it (had bad edible experience) I will have to give this a try.

[Eazy]

Originally Posted by ps-med

Have you tried this method (the oven baked for 15 minutes) and oil or butter infusion (simmer at 325 for about 4 hours)? If so, did you notice any real difference in effects? Seems like the oven foil pack method is quicker. Once I feel up to it (had bad edible experience) I will have to give this a try.

I've tried all methods I'm aware of; butterized, oilized, alchoholized, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.... Baking the bud in tinfoil for 15-minutes at 275 to 325 degrees and crumbling it into powder works best for me! Over the period I have tried this, 300 degrees seems to be the magic number for me. Above that, too potent. Below that, not potent enough. It's a real fine balance to achieve the perfect effect for each individual, but when you find the temp, time, and strain, you're good. You got a med that you can use whenever you need it for pain, depression, anxiety, insomnia, a sense of well-being, the pluthora of other symptoms relief the medication provides -- mmj, good medicine!

I'm still experimenting with different temperatures and times with different strains and I've primarily stuck with hemp milk, hemp protein powder, and banana as the base, mixed in a blender until smooth and creamy. I can down a mug o' that in a heart-beat, done.

Last night, I used a 1/2 gram of Bubba Kush, some dank Bubba Kush, 300 degrees, 17 minutes crumbled into powder and mixed in the hemp base. I was floating quickly and then asleep within an hour, it was very fast acting, very sedating, wonderful sleep.

Enjoy! :partysmile:

[dpla]

Take whatever strain of bud you like, heat it on a piece of parchment paper on a cookie sheet in a preheated 275 F. oven for 15 minutes. Use an oven thermometer and keep the oven's temp below 325 F. Grind the dehydrated bud fine, store in an airtight container in the freezer.

Eat 1/2 measuring teaspoon of this powder in whatever food you like, yogurt to oatmeal (a glass of water will do). Adjust the dose accordingly. I keep my pot powder in the freezer since the water is all out of it and it keeps for months. Water is an oxidant that degrades THC.

Heating the bud converts the plant chemicals to THC and friends, kills off germs and viruses and boils off the water and some of the less digestible plant chemicals while staying well enough below the boiling points of the medicinal cannabinoids.

I find that pre-cooking your bud makes for a better tasting budder with less chance of undesirable side affects (i.e.. green budder, odd taste, nausea and diarrhea.) Oh yes, three "00" size jell caps hold 1/2 teaspoon of baked ground bud, depending on how loose or tight you pack them.

Cannabis is non-toxic to vertabrates.