[I Love Pot420]

Ok so this is the scenario. I live in the northern most part of san diego. Two cops roll up on me and my comrad while we are happily and peacefully medicating on a street by my house. Im a 4th waiver which means i can be searched without consent whenever a law enforcement officer pleases. To make this long story short when i informed the officer that i had marijuana in the car he asked for my "prescription". I pulled out my reccomendation from my doctor (which is completely valid and up to date) and he asks me "this is all you have?" I tell him "Yes" like its all i need. He then proceeds to tell me that i need a county card and since i dont have that it gives him means to arrest me. He said that just to be a dick cuz he didnt even arrest me.I believe under prosition 215 it allows patients use marijuana for medicinal purposes with a VALID DOCTORS RECCOMENDATION, WHICH I HAD. I have never read anything about HAVING to have a county card! Anyways he ends up letting me go with a pocession of marijuana ticket. Now my question to my fellow WT'ers, I want to fight this case and win, I am tired of being pushed around by cops and them laughing at my reccomendation like theirs a good joke written on it. It's not right and I want to fight! Any info and help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks again!!

[custom]

shouldnt be smoking in a car


cops can totally fuck with you


he couldve written you a dwi if your keys were in the ignition ,if he wanted to be a SUPER dick


if you HAVE to medicate in the car i recommend constantly moving, sitting still is besty as hell.


good luck with the ticket

[Narong]

since you are in san diego, and get get harrassed by cops much id invest in a county card just to be safe. Because i hear often that people or certain counties having trouble with people without a county card, riverside is possibly one of them. Fighting the ticket shouldnt be hard but just getting a county card will be good idea if you plan to medicate in street, as you would before.

[custom]

oh yah


you were in san diego


they think they are their own state lol

cops down there are "good ol boys" and hate bud

[Medicaluser99]

Originally Posted by custom

oh yah


you were in san diego


they think they are their own state lol

cops down there are "good ol boys" and hate bud

Not trying to diss our fine men in blue, but I heard quite some time ago that certain pd's are made up of other pd's "rejects", that is, the guys who got written up for violence against arrestees, history of "unstableness", etc. And that the SDPD is one of these that accepts them. I was "told" that the SDPD is made up predominantly of these kind of "officers". You know, the first thing you see them do after they pull you over (looking in the rear view) is put on their gloves....now that's pretty intimidating.

just something someone told me. It may or may not be correct. I never "researched" it.

[RudeDogg]

Same thing happened to me, not to worry though, once you get to court you need to show that you are a legal patient under the care of your doctor and the ticket will be dismissed, then you strut right on out of there while everybody else is getting reamed, the only thing you need to work on right now is your courtroom strut! Seriously, don't sweat it.

[Eazy]

Originally Posted by I Love Pot420

Ok so this is the scenario. I live in the northern most part of san diego. Two cops roll up on me and my comrad while we are happily and peacefully medicating on a street by my house. Im a 4th waiver which means i can be searched without consent whenever a law enforcement officer pleases. To make this long story short when i informed the officer that i had marijuana in the car he asked for my "prescription". I pulled out my reccomendation from my doctor (which is completely valid and up to date) and he asks me "this is all you have?" I tell him "Yes" like its all i need. He then proceeds to tell me that i need a county card and since i dont have that it gives him means to arrest me. He said that just to be a dick cuz he didnt even arrest me.I believe under prosition 215 it allows patients use marijuana for medicinal purposes with a VALID DOCTORS RECCOMENDATION, WHICH I HAD. I have never read anything about HAVING to have a county card! Anyways he ends up letting me go with a pocession of marijuana ticket. Now my question to my fellow WT'ers, I want to fight this case and win, I am tired of being pushed around by cops and them laughing at my reccomendation like theirs a good joke written on it. It's not right and I want to fight! Any info and help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks again!!

Actually, if you don't have a county card, leo can cite you. At that point, you have to prove to the judge you have a medical necessity and that you are seriously ill (bring your medical records and detail your success with mmj). If you got no real medical necessity, they can prosecute you for possession. Once you prove to the court you are seriously ill, they have to dismiss the case.

The county card stops leo in their tracks, they must let you and your meds go unless you are in violation of the law.

The recommendation gives you the same protection as the card, but under the law, you can be asked to explain yourself to a judge if you don't have a country card and with just a rec, leo can "arrest" you, cite you. Technically, when you've been cited, you are "under arrest" from that point forward and until the hearing, read the ticket. Technically, you are under arrest until the case has been dismissed, if it gets dismissed.

I always carry my rec and medical records with me so that leo knows I'm for real, they always let me go cuz they know sending *me* to court would be a waste of taxpayers' money!

Good luck, be prepared with your medical records for court or be prepared to be found guilty of possession!

[cephas]

Find a MMJ lawyer, not sure if there are any specializing in that yet in SD...might have to call one in LA. Get a consultation, the lawyer will tell you what to do, if anything. Sorry, bit if you want to fight any type of ticket the only reliable way to do it is to hire a lawyer.

and yeah, invest in the county card. SD county is the wild freaking west, if you have a card they will leave you alone maybe, without it, good luck.....

[evilstevo]

i had to go to court for the same thing,but not in san diego, get to court early and show the district attorney your rec, charges should be dropped.

[LivnLifAgn]

Two cops roll up on me and my comrad while we were Happily and peacefully medicating on a street by my house. Im a 4th waiver which means i can be searched without consent whenever a law enforcement officer pleases.

Ever watch Forest...Forest Gump!!

[DreamSmoker]

Originally Posted by Eazy

Actually, if you don't have a county card, leo can cite you. At that point, you have to prove to the judge you have a medical necessity and that you are seriously ill (bring your medical records and detail your success with mmj). If you got no real medical necessity, they can prosecute you for possession. Once you prove to the court you are seriously ill, they have to dismiss the case.

The county card stops leo in their tracks, they must let you and your meds go unless you are in violation of the law.

The recommendation gives you the same protection as the card, but under the law, you can be asked to explain yourself to a judge if you don't have a country card and with just a rec, leo can "arrest" you, cite you. Technically, when you've been cited, you are "under arrest" from that point forward and until the hearing, read the ticket. Technically, you are under arrest until the case has been dismissed, if it gets dismissed.

I always carry my rec and medical records with me so that leo knows I'm for real, they always let me go cuz they know sending *me* to court would be a waste of taxpayers' money!

Good luck, be prepared with your medical records for court or be prepared to be found guilty of possession!

What you are saying is (generally) not true....
No Medical Cannabis I.D. is required by the State.. Its voluntary..
Also County cards fall into this also..
In fact.. vary few Counties are even issuing them..
State law does require that you produce a Doctors recommendation while the police just snub This one document that is legal by state law.....
You just need that and a current drivers license to get Meds in a Dispensary legally... But the Police ignore or make fun of your rec and expect you to pull a County ID out... Thats a Joke.....

[Eazy]

Originally Posted by DreamSmoker

What you are saying is (generally) not true....
No Medical Cannabis I.D. is required by the State.. Its voluntary..
Also County cards fall into this also..
In fact.. vary few Counties are even issuing them..
State law does require that you produce a Doctors recommendation while the police just snub This one document that is legal by state law.....
You just need that and a current drivers license to get Meds in a Dispensary legally... But the Police ignore or make fun of your rec and expect you to pull a County ID out... Thats a Joke.....

You are confused.

The card is voluntary but the actions leo are supposed to take are mandatory. The card stops them from arresting you and, or confiscating your meds. The rec stops a judge from prosecuting you if you are seriously ill and leo sends you to a judge for a decision.

[evilstevo]

when i went to court the seriousness of my medical condition was not an issue, i just had to show my rec. i think its up to the leo's discretion if you get a ticket or not.

[packetstar]

You should read this on the canorml web site. It spells things out clearly.

canorml patientsguide

peace

[referee4]

Originally Posted by I Love Pot420

Two cops roll up on me and my comrad while we are happily and peacefully medicating on a street by my house. Im a 4th waiver which means i can be searched without consent whenever a law enforcement officer pleases. Any info and help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks again!!

Yes I have some good advice WAKE UP and think

[Medpatient]

Originally Posted by Eazy

You are confused.

The card is voluntary but the actions leo are supposed to take are mandatory. The card stops them from arresting you and, or confiscating your meds. The rec stops a judge from prosecuting you if you are seriously ill and leo sends you to a judge for a decision.

exactly eazy, that is where the problem lies. Most people are so confused over what that little piece of paper does for them. Most think it is a get out of jail free card which it isnt.

Recommendation only = A viable defense in court but does not protect you from arrest or confiscation of meds

County Card = Protection from arrest and confiscation of meds as long as you are within your limits of the law.

It is written out in the laws so I do not understand why the confusion, oh wait that is right cause most people ran to a doc, got their rec and never once bothered to read the laws.

[I Love Pot420]

I really appreciate all the feedback from you guys (just try not to bash me too much i kno smoking in a car is sketch). I have taken everything that has been said into consideration and will prepare myself accordingly so i can try yo get myself out of this mess. The only reason why i was so confused was because i have been confronted by cops twice who let me keep my meds and my pipe just by showing them my rec. I just think these cops were having a bad night and wanted to ruin a couple of kids' evening, cuz they were complete assholes the way they were going about it. They were treating me like i had a fuckin pound of heroin in the back, it was insane. Thank god i actually DO use marijuana for my illness, because by providing me medical records i can easily show a judge how mmj has benefited my life. Like i said in the beginning THANK YOU for all your guys' support. Without it i would be COMPLETELY lost. PEACE and LOVE

[kalikilla]

if you take this to court they will tell you "ignorance is no excuse to the law" you can use it but where and how handle marijuana is important! YOU CAN READ UP ON THIS IN THE PAPERWORK YOU SIGNED TO OBTAIN YOUR RECOMENDATION. P.S. Dont even take the staple off that white bag untill U get home . . . . Thats the whole reasoning to the little white baggie.[/size]

Originally Posted by i love pot420

ok so this is the scenario. I live in the northern most part of san diego. Two cops roll up on me and my comrad while we are happily and peacefully medicating on a street by my house. Im a 4th waiver which means i can be searched without consent whenever a law enforcement officer pleases. To make this long story short when i informed the officer that i had marijuana in the car he asked for my "prescription". I pulled out my reccomendation from my doctor (which is completely valid and up to date) and he asks me "this is all you have?" i tell him "yes" like its all i need. He then proceeds to tell me that i need a county card and since i dont have that it gives him means to arrest me. He said that just to be a dick cuz he didnt even arrest me.i believe under prosition 215 it allows patients use marijuana for medicinal purposes with a valid doctors reccomendation, which i had. I have never read anything about having to have a county card! Anyways he ends up letting me go with a pocession of marijuana ticket. Now my question to my fellow wt'ers, i want to fight this case and win, i am tired of being pushed around by cops and them laughing at my reccomendation like theirs a good joke written on it. It's not right and i want to fight! Any info and help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks again!!

[Cubed]

My gosh you are on parole or probation and don't have any 4th amendment rights? Right?
Smoking in the car wasn't the issue bro. Your very freedom is. What were you thinking?

Most people on probation avoid going back to jail like the plague. No one should be jailed for pot.
If you have waived, you need an lawyer. You might have already violated your terms. Careful my friend. At least contact ASA's legal hotline and talk about what happened.

Best to you.

[BastianLucas]

Wow that really sucks. I feel for you man. I hope that you win the case. If you hear anything on this "county card" please post.

[younggotti]

Originally Posted by BastianLucas

Wow that really sucks. I feel for you man. I hope that you win the case. If you hear anything on this "county card" please post.

It's a "State Card" not a "County Card"!!!

it's issued to You by Your County's Health Department!

[AndoMike]

Best of luck man...I went in on a possesion ticket and once I showed the D.A. my Rec they dismissed it. Good luck.

[papasmurf]

its up to your doctor to determine the validity of your needs not a judge with no medical degree.
similar reason as to why Dr Bearman fought the law on a similar issue and won.
when we have judges or leo who believe they are qualifyed to make medical decisions for you i think we have a big problem.
its very unfortunate but some of us may need to be the test cases that get our rights to medicate completely established.
my doctor explicetly told me to carry a packed bowl in my top pocket and to medicate as needed,even if this was in the middle of a crosswalk .

at some point the ability to drive while on narcotic pain meds has been established for
pharma users.
if its ok for someone to drive around on oxycotin i think weed should be fine.
as long as the user can pass a sobrity test in either case.

I go to renew my script in 2 days and will talk with Dr Bearman about this .

[Medpatient]

Originally Posted by papasmurf

its up to your doctor to determine the validity of your needs not a judge with no medical degree.
similar reason as to why Dr Bearman fought the law on a similar issue and won.
when we have judges or leo who believe they are qualifyed to make medical decisions for you i think we have a big problem.
its very unfortunate but some of us may need to be the test cases that get our rights to medicate completely established.
my doctor explicetly told me to carry a packed bowl in my top pocket and to medicate as needed,even if this was in the middle of a crosswalk .

at some point the ability to drive while on narcotic pain meds has been established for
pharma users.
if its ok for someone to drive around on oxycotin i think weed should be fine.
as long as the user can pass a sobrity test in either case.

I go to renew my script in 2 days and will talk with Dr Bearman about this .

actually it is not ok to drive around high on oxy or any other pharma med. That is why the bottles always have warnings about operating a vehicle or equipment.

[LivnLifAgn]

actually it is not ok to drive around high on oxy or any other pharma med. That is why the bottles always have warnings about operating a vehicle or equipment.

Actually.... it says USE CARE when Operating..