[Goldenstatecollective]

I work with some patients undergoing intense chemo.

They inform me that kief is a god send when it comes to the nasuea associated with chemo.

Are any WT's currently undergoing therapy that could enlighten us a bit on the subject.

I think any concentrate helps me. I prefer bubble in the volcano. The potency and the ability to get a lot of medicine in me as fast as possible seems to be my best bet.

If I'm really nauseous, smoking bud takes too long to get enough meds in and one bout of hacking will make me power puke.

I imagine that keif that is pretty pure, with little plant matter other than trichs would work the same way for nausea. I think purity is the key, either with keif or bubble as it's really gets hard the more you have to ingest to get relief.

Sincerely,
LG

[Justonevoice]

As some one that is getting ready to go through this chemo shit I would like more info. I watched my Uncle go through hell when he got chemo and that is what has held me back from doing it. Please tell me more.

Hi Justonevoice,

Some people get forms of chemo that aren't too hard to tolerate.
It depends on the type of cancer, it's location, your health and family history of cancer and it's "Stage", a term that describes it's severity.

Some people breeze thru it, my first round wasn't that hard, just some tiredness and a bit of nausea the day of an infusion. This second one was very aggressive and sent me to the ER a few times. I also took a bushel of pills with both to support the chemo.

What chemo is: drugs, heavy metals and stuff that tries to kill you and the roaming cancer cells in your body. The Doctors job is to see that the cancer dies from it but you don't!

Some things like all the steroids is to help you survive the poisons they give you. Others help with fatigue, some like epotien alfa (pro-crit) build up your red cells to keep you from being exhausted.

It's very individual. But remember people go thru it everyday and your survival rate goes up many fold with the therapy.

Some therapies are done as an inpatient, some are outpatient infusions taken at a hospital's infusion center (about 2-3 hours a time) along with meds to take at home.

Whatever you do L, talk about ALL the options available to you, these days there are many choices you can make to accommodate lifestyle and allow you to work while undergoing therapy.

Chances are whatever you and your Doc choose - or just need - it will likely let you live longer. Even cured! Just be aware lifestyle changes are usually required to insure long term results. Low stress, exercise, good food and eliminating gluten in the diet can help.

Make sure to "carve out" time to do the things you enjoy as well, chemo often brings on the blues... I make sure to walk at a local park everyday if I can. It's amazing what having "something special" to do can help.
One guy I often see at the hospital built a huge model railroad. He said he never pampered himself in his whole life and that a big hobby like trains was silly. Now that's all he talks to me about.

Support groups are out there as well.

I suggest asking questions, questions and more questions!

Also the internet is good but I would stay away from forums and stick to medical sites as there is too much mis-info on many sites.

I don't know what you are battling L, it could be real easy or hard...

Best advice anyone gave me was "attitude is everything". I wish I had listened better!

Cancer is much more treatable these days, remission rates are lower than ever.

I wish you health and an easy ride with a full recovery leading to a cancer free life.

Hang in there L!

[Justonevoice]

Wow,that kinda sounds scary and reassuring at the same time,lol. I will make it thru it but am not happy about having too, ya know what I mean? I am putting it off for the next twoweeks because my doc whats me to quit the damn smoking. I am doing well with that and am down to about 7 cigs a day from one pack (20). I will be done with it soon and pray that the treatment works. I am unable to tolerate butane in any form so if I am going to need concentrates to get through this I must stock up on some that are done without butane that can be rolled. I believe that is kinda hard to find nowadays, Any suggestions?

You may not need concentrates. Flowers work well for most. I use cannabis as a substitute for morphine, I have MS and arthritis as well, so my MMJ use can be heavy at times.

I've found - for me - that a small amount of vaped hash is easier on me when I was feeling nausea, then to smoke a joint. But if I'm out doing errands, working or going out to dinner a few puffs off a joint does the trick. When I had body aches and general "I feel like crap" a few hits of vapor or a joint does the trick.

Remember many people have an easy go of it. And they don't have to medicate often while in treatment. The majority of people don't use MMJ at all. In my case it was rougher due to not being able to take my MS meds (rebif) while undergoing chemo.

I wouldn't sweat the concentrate issue...you can keep a gram of clean bubble around in the medicine chest if you feel you need it.

Flowers? Concentrates? It's more of a choice you get to make than a necessity. Try not to sweat the MMJ too much. You most likely will be medicating as you do now. :smile2:

Plus, it's not forever. Some regimens are only 16 weeks long. I have a relative that had a few feet of bowel removed and her only complaint was feeing a little flu like the day after geting IV meds. She ran her business and her household at the same time.

Expect the best, what I was taking is not the norm...it was a very aggressive treatment.

But at the worst times, I knew it wasn't going to be forever. I have no doubt in my mind that you will be ok with it.

Hang in there!

Regards,
LG

[R2D2]

Originally Posted by Goldenstatecollective

I work with some patients undergoing intense chemo.

They inform me that kief is a god send when it comes to the nasuea associated with chemo.

Are any WT's currently undergoing therapy that could enlighten us a bit on the subject.

I've taken ABVD, MOPP,COPP,ESHAP...all chemo regimens for the treatment of my advanved Hodgkin's lymphoma. I eventually had a stem cell transplant and was cured from the way it looks. I found that indicas were the best for nausea. The concentrates work quite well, but early on I did not have those availlable to me. I'm gonna try the kief, I didn't realize it was so good. Thanks for the tip. My experience with cancer and the treatment was obviously more involved than others....I've spent my life fighting it.

Hodgkin's lymphoma Stage 4B (recurrentx2)
ABVD
MOPP
COPP
ESHAP
TBI(total body irradiation)
PSCT(peripheral stem cell trasplant)
boost mantle radiation

[Old_Hippy]

Originally Posted by R2D2

'm gonna try the kief

Kief is great, but the brown powdered (or "powderable" in a herb grinder) hash is better in my experience, if you can get it. I especially like the Sativa kief or hash because it cures my nausea without putting me to sleep. I expect that a little dab of "ear wax" or "budda" would work even better, but it's so expensive I hate to try ingesting it because it usually requires a lot more medication if taken orally rather than if inhaled.

I peeked in just to see what sorts of chemo drugs people with cancer take, but I don't recognize any of them. I suppose they are an entirely different class of medications than the 17.5 mg of methotrexate I inject weekly (for the rest of my life) for my psoriatic arthritis.

My sympathy to all cancer patients. Now that "ear wax" or "budda" is becoming available, hopefully it will provide a very convenient method of achieving the levels of THC needed by cancer chemotherapy patients without burning out their lungs. I haven'd tried ingesting "budda", but if you can afford it, it is probably as concentrated as anything I've seen yet.