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CarlSagan · 10-28-2009, 12:49 PM

The Catholic Church was really good at torture during the Spanish Inquisition.

Its called a witch hunt.

Ask someone...are you a witch...they say no.

Pull out their finger nails and ask them again...maybe they will say yes..if not...increase the torture...

after they "confess" to being a witch keep torturing them.

Ask if their neighbor is a witch. If they say no...keep torturing until they say yes.

The go torture that neighbor until he confesses and names someone else as a witch.

Inflicting pain on someone doesn't get them to tell the truth...it gets them to say whatever they can to get you to stop.

During WWII the Japanese would torture American Soldiers. The Japanese didn't do it to learn more about the Allied forces...they did it to extract false confessions to be used against American. They tortured American soldiers into saying they are sympathetic to Japan.

Before Don't ask Don't Tell, the military did the same with gays in the military. Instead of torturing soldiers into confessing they are gay, they would threaten soldiers with prison until the soldier admitted being gay and named other gay soldiers (in exchange for a dishonerable discharge over jailtime). This policy ended up in straight soldiers admitting to being gay just to stay out of jail!!!!

The same thing happened during the Communist Red Scare of the 40, 50, 60s, etc

Torture feels good if you are seeking revenge or if you are a sadist.

But if you want accurate information there is no evidence that torture works...In fact, its only ever been used to extract false confessions...

The problem isnt that torture is moral or immoral (although I tend to think its immoral).

The problem is torture doesn't make anyone safer. It simply feels good (like the death penatly, but thats for another rant...)

10-28-2009, 12:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
CarlSagan PhD in THC Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Holy Inland Empire Co-Op: no Vendor: no Patient: Yes Posts: 362 Rep Power: 34801	Re: They Did Lie! The Catholic Church was really good at torture during the Spanish Inquisition. Its called a witch hunt. Ask someone...are you a witch...they say no. Pull out their finger nails and ask them again...maybe they will say yes..if not...increase the torture... after they "confess" to being a witch keep torturing them. Ask if their neighbor is a witch. If they say no...keep torturing until they say yes. The go torture that neighbor until he confesses and names someone else as a witch. Inflicting pain on someone doesn't get them to tell the truth...it gets them to say whatever they can to get you to stop. During WWII the Japanese would torture American Soldiers. The Japanese didn't do it to learn more about the Allied forces...they did it to extract false confessions to be used against American. They tortured American soldiers into saying they are sympathetic to Japan. Before Don't ask Don't Tell, the military did the same with gays in the military. Instead of torturing soldiers into confessing they are gay, they would threaten soldiers with prison until the soldier admitted being gay and named other gay soldiers (in exchange for a dishonerable discharge over jailtime). This policy ended up in straight soldiers admitting to being gay just to stay out of jail!!!! The same thing happened during the Communist Red Scare of the 40, 50, 60s, etc Torture feels good if you are seeking revenge or if you are a sadist. But if you want accurate information there is no evidence that torture works...In fact, its only ever been used to extract false confessions... The problem isnt that torture is moral or immoral (although I tend to think its immoral). The problem is torture doesn't make anyone safer. It simply feels good (like the death penatly, but thats for another rant...) CarlSagan says..WWHHD? What Would Huell Howser Do??? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.